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- Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
- Replies: 13
- Views: 165
Re: Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
A shaped leather case such as those used for carrying wax tablets is perfectly period for her and there are surviving examples in the Met. Thanks for the lead. the term "Cuir bouilli" found a bunch including at least 1 that was labeled 14th century rather then 15. No closer dating however. That cov...
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:25 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How do I forge bar stock into a triangle?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 371
Re: How do I forge bar stock into a triangle?
The only way I know of is with a V shaped swadge block. You might carefully turn a round into a hexagon but there needs to be something on the other side to take the impact.
Profesionally they would probably roll it but I don't know any sources for triangular stock.
Good luck!
Sean
Profesionally they would probably roll it but I don't know any sources for triangular stock.
Good luck!
Sean
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:36 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
- Replies: 13
- Views: 165
Re: Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
I'll need to get details on persona but I believe she portrays merchant class, something in the wool processing, spinning, dying and weaving profesion. A girdle book wouldn't be inappropriate (I think). Drawstring purses and baskets with a little loose cloth thrown on top are already in use. I think...
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:10 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Analysis of a pewter alloy?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 291
Re: Analysis of a pewter alloy?
How good are those XRF guns? Do they distinguish all the elements? What sort of accuracy can you expect? Will the guy at the local scrap yard have a good one?....or is going to have a cheapy that barely tells brass from bronze? Do any or you guys have any personal experiences of them? Thanks! Mac N...
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:09 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
- Replies: 13
- Views: 165
Q: Earliest date of a girdle book, wax tablet and etui
Hello, A good friend is at least as much of a stickler for time period and documentation for kit as I am. She has seen a really nice girgle book that is actually a disguise for a cell-phone. As a parent it is some times necessary to 'gently remind' kids to come back to camp or similar. She would lik...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:20 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Any extant examples of mail like this?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 13948
Re: Any extant examples of mail like this?
Some discussion parallel to ours at a Landsknecht Forum Also here is a zoomable version of Moroni's Knight Nice! Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to grab up the image to crop up a detail. http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/Eliz-Rivenstar/Seans%20Shop/MoronisKnightZoom_zps6bfac804.png It l...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:02 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Any extant examples of mail like this?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 13948
Re: Any extant examples of mail like this?
Some discussion parallel to ours at a Landsknecht Forum Also here is a zoomable version of Moroni's Knight Nice! Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to grab up the image to crop up a detail. It looks to me like he is wearing a sleeveless vest-like garment with the mail pointed to it. The medial e...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:29 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Vamplate - Jouster
- Replies: 17
- Views: 550
Re: Vamplate - Jouster
Sorry. Horn = horn of anvil.

I was curious what tools you used to shape the steel over.
I am very impressed with the brass you are very patient. I would hire someone with a laser to cut it for me as I am lazy.
Sean

I was curious what tools you used to shape the steel over.
I am very impressed with the brass you are very patient. I would hire someone with a laser to cut it for me as I am lazy.
Sean
- Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:29 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Regarding the Nike SPAM
- Replies: 3
- Views: 242
Re: Regarding the Nike SPAM
:) One of the things I'm jealous of if my wife and womens access to period shoes. Every couple of months some fashion designer out there will be inspired by or re-invision (Copy and rip-off are so pedantic) some time period and duplicate the shoes. It's usually 18th - 19th century but my wife has fo...
- Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:06 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Vamplate - Jouster
- Replies: 17
- Views: 550
Re: Vamplate - Jouster
I appreciate any armorer who photographs his work next to a glass of red wine instead of a can of soda. :) It has a very nice anticlastic shape. Do you mind showing us the horn or tool you shape this over? Is it custom for vamplates or is it just a straight pipe? Also, where did you find such beauti...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:41 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: German Gothic rerebrace question
- Replies: 3
- Views: 234
Re: German Gothic rerebrace question
Flute after, always after. The flutes will set the shape and make rolling nearly impossible. If it's riveted shut then the flutes can't open it up... also if the flutes go in hot they won't open it up either.
You need and offset stake, think dog-leg but with a chisel top rather then a ball.
Sean
You need and offset stake, think dog-leg but with a chisel top rather then a ball.
Sean
- Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:13 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Gaunts
- Replies: 20
- Views: 913
Re: Gaunts
I liked Schreiber's lame idea. This is my first pass at the pattern. It's sort of like sabatons but they bend the other way. Perhaps some strips across the knuckle joints like Wades? I put a strip around the wrist to help rivet it together and hide the sins. It will probably take several more attem...
- Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:08 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: looking for good pics of round faced bascinet, 1410ish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 534
Re: looking for good pics of round faced bascinet, 1410ish
He wants a round faced bascinet 1410ish. Cool. The images he sent me are off tapestries that look cartoony, not much detail. Gruber, Let's see those tapestries, cartoony or not. If anyone has any good examples, original or recently built, Unfortunately, very little has survived from 1410(ish), but,...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:35 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Munich Travel Plans, Feb 2014
- Replies: 13
- Views: 99
Re: Munich Travel Plans, Feb 2014
Send Freeman a post through the archive. I don't know where in Germany he is but he can give some great suggestions. My "trick" for dealing with jetlag was the 36 hour day. I'd nap an hour or 2 on the plane then hit the ground running 6am Swiss time and push all day and go to sleep on their schedule...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:30 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Spinning Wheel Instructions
- Replies: 10
- Views: 148
Re: Spinning Wheel Instructions
Let me see what I can find at home. They are deceptively complex, especially in the 'flyer'. The wheel itself is simple by comparison. There are lots of wheel styles from modern to historic. The most historic ones are walking wheels where you manipulate the great wheel with one hand and control the ...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:55 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Gorget Article
- Replies: 12
- Views: 517
Re: Gorget Article
The integral hinges have 4 knuckles, 2 per side and what appear to be 2 flush rivet heads visible on the inside in line with the notches (not the knuckle as I would have guessed) but from the outside I can't find a hint or trace of them. Are these rivets or the shadow of some other feature. If rivet...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:18 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hal's crazy idea # 347.01
- Replies: 62
- Views: 1417
Re: Hal's crazy idea # 347.01
River hell. It’s an ANVIL! It’s not even a crappy cast-iron ASO from China, it’s a dedicated armorers anvil. Do you know how many tools I had to buy to equal the functionality of this tool? I must have already spent 4-5 times as much on multiple tools because something like this wasn’t available. It...
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:55 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Any extant examples of mail like this?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 13948
Re: Any extant examples of mail like this?
Suspended from the lower fauld lame. Look at several of the images here: http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=21152 We get a little surviving mail and a lot of faulds with a line of rivets along the bottom edge. Wade WOW! Much appreciated. I need to go through those imaages on a better mon...
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hal's crazy idea # 347.01
- Replies: 62
- Views: 1417
Re: Hal's crazy idea # 347.01
Hal, Congratulations! If you hardened the flat section and softened the edge of the rolling groove you will have re-invented the anvil... with an anticlastic horn. Honestly I love it. No use for it but I love it.
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:20 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Any extant examples of mail like this?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 13948
Re: Any extant examples of mail like this?
Tom, I am pretty sure that the normal thing is for the second layer to be attached to the lower edge of the fauld. A mail skirt plus a fringe of mail on the fauld gives us the usual two layers. Mac Lower edge of the fauld or lower edge of the BP where the rivets for the mounting strip would be hidd...
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:06 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: I love 301 - I hate 301
- Replies: 10
- Views: 283
Re: I love 301 - I hate 301
The harder it is to work the better it is to wear. What you wanted to fight in plastic and alluminum? 
S~
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- Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:31 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Dishing, how do you do it?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 893
Re: Dishing, how do you do it?
I went to a treadle hammer 35 years ago. plans are available through ABNA. johan, can you tell me more about it? What is ABNA? I am not sure, I could manage to build such a machine, but I would like to think about it. Best Regards, Grischa I believe he means AB A NA. Artist-Blacksmith's Association...
- Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:26 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hammers/other tools for beginner amourer
- Replies: 95
- Views: 1088
Re: Hammers/other tools for beginner amourer
B3 is overkill except for experienced armorers who work hot or have access to heavy trip-hammers. It will cut the thinner stuff but not in intricate shapes like a smaller shear will. That means it's for production of ACL helms and breastplates but a poor choice for gauntlets. I found one on craigsli...
- Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:23 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rules of thumb/heuristics for pattern making
- Replies: 11
- Views: 360
Re: Rules of thumb/heuristics for pattern making
Azmreece, Welcome to the archive. I'm sure everyone who has made armor and many who have not all have an opinion about what makes the best patterns. Then again opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. :) The best advice is to cut some steel and play with it. It's hard to math...
- Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:12 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hammers/other tools for beginner amourer
- Replies: 95
- Views: 1088
Re: Hammers/other tools for beginner amourer
I'm going to recommend picking a project and buying or building just enough tools to do that project. Yes it's good to keep an open mind and not buy a 16ga max tool when you expect to do 12ga in the future but if you are making spaulders (a good first project) then you don't necessarily need long-ne...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:36 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: where to end a 14th century breastplate
- Replies: 10
- Views: 419
Re: where to end a 14th century breastplate
I'm having trouble following what you are doing mathematically with the Marine, but camera distortion is certainly an issue. As far as I can tell, the camera is about level with his chin and bout 8 feet away. That's going to make a difference in the torso proportion, and absolutely bollocks the leg...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:17 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: where to end a 14th century breastplate
- Replies: 10
- Views: 419
Re: where to end a 14th century breastplate
No, Elbows aren’t accurate. It’s not just the Clavicle but that the shoulder is a ball and plane joint rather than a ball in socket like the hip. Using the picture of the marine I printed, his left shoulder is 1/8 higher than his right which sets his left elbow 1/8 higher in response. Given the asym...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:02 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: where to end a 14th century breastplate
- Replies: 10
- Views: 419
Re: where to end a 14th century breastplate
There is less vaqriation in arm length to torso length then you might think. There is more variation in location of belly button. Start at your elbow and find your lowest rib. You have minimal flex in the Thorasic region of your spine (ribs) so everything above the lowest floating rib should be rigi...
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:56 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What goes with a corrizina?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1092
Re: What goes with a corrizina?
Bacinate or Kettle: http://armourinart.com/115/155/ http://armourinart.com/8/11/ http://armourinart.com/2/4/ (with simple shoulder cops and maybe some spaulders) http://armourinart.com/138/199/ (and some simpler spaulders in this one) http://armourinart.com/19/23/ Be careful with some of these. Wha...
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:50 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1027
Re: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
Sean, that's a good point. I was thinking it might be a garment made for baton use. No need to change the male to female button hole direction. When did that start, I wonder? I'll check with my wife in the morning but I believe that the reversed buttons @ holes for ladies dress is very modern, circ...
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:08 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1027
Re: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
@Sean, Do you have notes that say which sleeve had the rivet points in, and which had them out? Mac Sorry, I do not. I am also not close enough to Philly to check the display if it is on display again. Concerning speculation that this may be for fencing because the left rear panel is unpadded imply...
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:01 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: das Thun'sche Skizzenbuch rediscovered!
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3629
Re: das Thun'sche Skizzenbuch rediscovered!
And/or attached to the maile or to the same anchoring points as the maile. Do we know that the maile braise were pointed up vs belted?
Sean
Sean
- Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:08 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: OT Baron Master Master Feral,Kingmaker is in surgery
- Replies: 4
- Views: 197
Re: OT Baron Master Master Feral,Kingmaker is in surgery
rom Jay Travis's FB page: 9 hours ago: He is conscious, alert, and talking. He is in ICU for tonight and will be moved to a normal room in the morning. 1 hour ago: Feral had a blood clot on his brain they performed surgery to drain the clot. He is resting. Far as we know he did not have a stroke. Sean
- Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:41 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1027
Re: 16th Century German Voiders and Arming Coat
I recall that one sleeve had the rivet points in and one the rivet points out. That caused some speculation about if there was a proper orientation. Points out might protect the fabric better but no one attending that day had any solid evidence, just speculation. Piere Terjan (sp?) did not imply tha...
- Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:51 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA: Non-center grip shields
- Replies: 21
- Views: 631
Re: SCA: Non-center grip shields
I like having my hand very close to the shield for balance. My sport shield uses a hockey glove with all the padding over the meta-carpals and half the wrist removed. 1 layer of leather between me and the aluminum. Stings occasional but better performance. My hand protection for demos is a partial l...
