You might want to Google "Gothic Lombardic Capitals". Even on the same effigy there are variants in the style of the same letter. Look at the two As at the upper left - one has a straight cross-arm, while the other is angled.
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- Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Alphabet \ Numerals
- Replies: 7
- Views: 166
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:33 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: year?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 299
Re: year?
Ah, dual effigy with different dates of death for husband and wife.
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:15 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Leather armour in art? (brown with metal strips & rivets)
- Replies: 152
- Views: 11397
Re: Leather armour in art? (brown with metal strips & rivets
No strips on this one, but it looks like the infantryman closest to the viewer in the center of this panel could have leather arm pieces on. The white of his shirt is showing at the wrist and there is a very defined line going up the back that may represent a seam or closure in the armor. He has on...
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:03 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: year?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 299
Re: year?
Kastenbrust is literally box-breast. I don't understand how you can have a globose box. If it doesn't have an angle and squarish appearance, it's not boxy.
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:00 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: year?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 299
Re: year?
Link?HRE1350 wrote:This one is dated 1399 on E&B. But effigy reads 1376...
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:23 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Alphabet \ Numerals
- Replies: 7
- Views: 166
Re: Alphabet \ Numerals
Writing style varied over the century and by location. I think the effigy of Sir Richard Buslingthorpe is dated in Thordeman to 1290, and in E&B to 1310. However, I was informed on another forum that a recent study of the Lombardic script on the slab reveals some peculiarities which were only found ...
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:12 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: year?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 299
Re: year?
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- Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:38 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: year?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 299
Re: year?
1437 is the date carved into the grave slab. (rotated it for an easier read, it's going round the top right corner)
m* > cccc*xxxvii*
m* > cccc*xxxvii*
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- Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:44 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What exactly is the chest-piece of the Churburg S18?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1089
Re: What exactly is the chest-piece of the Churburg S18?
How would the faulds have been attached without, or before a placket?
- Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:25 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Photos of Italian tournament
- Replies: 17
- Views: 803
Re: Photos of Italian tournament
You guys need to pitch a movie or tv show based on the Sforza to drum up recruiting.
- Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wellcome Apocalypse, strapped-on breastplates "c.1420"(?)
- Replies: 18
- Views: 874
Re: Wellcome Apocalypse, strapped-on breastplates "c.1420"(?
I'm finding more shallow breastplates, though without the side straps, in the Staatsbibliothek Berlin Weltchronik/Willehalm, Ms. germ. fol. 1416 , dated 1410-1415 by the library, with a likely Munich or other Bavarian origin. http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN717868990&PH...
- Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:50 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Photos of Italian tournament
- Replies: 17
- Views: 803
Re: Photos of Italian tournament
One of the benefits of having your focus on a narrow time frame
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:48 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Will the heralds pass it? Moderate nsfw
- Replies: 11
- Views: 704
Re: Will the heralds pass it? Moderate nsfw
One of the charges against the Templars was that they performed obscene kisses to the navel.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:06 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: tooling rawhide
- Replies: 28
- Views: 457
Re: tooling rawhide
Ethiopian rawhide buckler, but at least shows it can be done -
http://www.icollector.com/Ethiopian-Aby ... _i19848185
http://www.icollector.com/Ethiopian-Aby ... _i19848185
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:52 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Re: Paltocks
Pourpoint is derived from Latin per punctus , by puncturing, meaning stitched through. David Nicolle says that as early as the 1280s, Charles of Naples was placing orders for perpunto armors, so the term isn't tied to a late 14th century context. The word paltok only seem to appear around 1350 or so...
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:46 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Globose breastplate with hinged sides
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1988
Re: Globose breastplate with hinged sides
The suspicion is that the breastplate might have been, under the laws where it was found, illegally excavated. Providing further information regarding find site, etc. might bring the current owner heaps of trouble, with any revenue being returned to the state, or export for sale being denied. That a...
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:16 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Re: Paltocks
Chasing links https://books.google.com/books?id=IoNTAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA380&lpg=PA380&dq=Unum+paltoke+de+veluete+cum+armis+meis&source=bl&ots=8kxYH7G3Xh&sig=Ywg35JKLvVgOtV6GAf9TYSP0-B0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAGoVChMIroeGk46FyAIVCM-ACh1cywy1#v=onepage&q=Unum%20paltoke%20de%20veluete%20cum%20armis%20meis&f...
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:30 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Re: Paltocks
And a few more references...
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med ... =136679242
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med ... =136679242
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:43 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Re: Paltocks
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol8/pp45-56 Sir Roger [de Norwich] aforesaid, by his testament, dated on Wednesday in Whitsunday-week, and proved June 26, 1371 , appoints to be buried in Raveningham church, by the tomb of his brother; his executors to buy a good piece of...
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:40 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Bayeux Byrnie
- Replies: 5
- Views: 315
Re: Bayeux Byrnie
Looking at the big image, I agree that the shirt is everted, and of demi-riveted construction. From the general form, I would be surprised if it's earlier than the late 15th century.
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:35 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Re: Paltocks
The Eulogium text mentioned in the OED, a monk complaining in 1362 of contemporary male dress being effeminate: https://archive.org/details/eulogiumhistoria03hayd Habent etiam aliud indumentum sericum quod vulgo dicitur " paltok," et si bene disponeretur potius ad cultum ecclesiasticum cederet quam ...
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Paltocks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 720
Paltocks
Another obscure term for a textile armor, paltock . It's always difficult to determine what our forbears used to distinguish aketons, gambesons, jupons, pourpoints, jacks, arming doublets, etc. from one another, if at all. Sometimes they seem to include them as one and the same while at other times ...
- Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:19 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple vambrace pattern?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 416
Re: Simple vambrace pattern?
So the paired holes at the elbow are presumably for pointing to the rerebrace. Any ideas on the paired holes at the wrist?
- Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:15 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple vambrace pattern?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 416
Re: Simple vambrace pattern?
Rough idea -
The vambrace is 22 cm long, and the Wisby elbow roundel looks to be about 10 cm diameter, so my rendition is probably too small. For SCA requirements, you'd probably have to move the holes towards the elbow a bit.
The vambrace is 22 cm long, and the Wisby elbow roundel looks to be about 10 cm diameter, so my rendition is probably too small. For SCA requirements, you'd probably have to move the holes towards the elbow a bit.
- Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:57 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple vambrace pattern?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 416
Re: Simple vambrace pattern?
I think some of the extra additions being recommended were originally covered (though a bit more forward) by a roundel pointed to the paired holes towards the interior of the elbow.
http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/fid.asp?fid=538409
http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/fid.asp?fid=538409
- Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:49 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple vambrace pattern?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 416
Re: Simple vambrace pattern?
You could copy an original. Length 22 cm (8 11/16"). http://www.elpenbeen.nl/vambrace.pdf Dordrecht vambrace.jpg That is just crazy talk Ernst! :lol: Actually looks a bit like the pattern we use. But do as Schreiber says and extend the edges. Especially over the Upper end of the Brachioradialis. It...
- Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:36 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple vambrace pattern?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 416
Re: Simple vambrace pattern?
You could copy an original. Length 22 cm (8 11/16").
http://www.elpenbeen.nl/vambrace.pdf
http://www.elpenbeen.nl/vambrace.pdf
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- Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:26 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Yet Another Cuir Bouilli Question: Leather or Rawhide?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 309
Re: Yet Another Cuir Bouilli Question: Leather or Rawhide?
False dichotomy? What about tawed leathers, half-tanned, etc.?
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:06 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protection?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 320
Re: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protecti
Remnants in some of the Wisby coifs show 3 or 4 layers of wool sewn inside the mail. Pretty minimal, and leaving the question of which marshal will agree it's equivalent, and which won't. I suspect you'd have to have some sort of padded coif beneath, at least a finger's thickness for most to find it...
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:56 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protection?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 320
Re: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protecti
And the suspension system would then take the place of the round donut of padding / leather around the mail coif seen in some effigies, I suppose? And so the layers would go as follows...? 1. Head 2. Padded / Arming Coif 3. Mail Coif 4. Helm Suspension system / liner 5. Great Helm? Yes, during the ...
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protection?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 320
Re: Great Helm Setup: Historical Accuracy vs Modern Protecti
I suppose the first question I might ask is the style of the great helm. There's quite a difference between the profiles of the examples on Wells Cathedral and the Pembridge designed to be worn over a bascinet, for example. Historically, all the evidence we have points towards a typical suspension s...
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:11 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Study Session 2015
- Replies: 125
- Views: 1844
Re: Study Session 2015
Likewise, though I wish I could. Anyone able to attend should.
- Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:27 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Canvas Drop Cloth for Tent
- Replies: 28
- Views: 865
Re: Canvas Drop Cloth for Tent
I know cotton is not PC for period tentage but I am trying to do this on a dime budget with a nickle in the bank. I'm not the fabric expert, but it seems to me that I find canvas ( cannabis ) hemp cloth, fustian (linen warp, cotton weft), and buckram (cotton "canvas") being used where stout fabrics...
- Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:29 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Scale Cuisses
- Replies: 9
- Views: 830
Re: Scale Cuisses
You might want to add more holes in the top. If one of two fails, you have a loose scale, and a hole.
- Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:53 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Never gonna do it without the fez on
- Replies: 11
- Views: 655
Re: Never gonna do it without the fez on
A "fez" helmet in the 1818 Engelhardt copy of the, now destroyed, Hortus deliciarum manuscript from 1185: http://www.numistral.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9400936h BNU R43 Tab.III-fez.jpg An early masked helm also appears in this manuscript. BNU R43 Tab.III-c-dtl.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hortus_deli...