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by lorenzo2
Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:20 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Period clothing and breastfeeding?
Replies: 15
Views: 347

My wife made Greek garb of the type that has a clasp at the shoulder when she breast feed our two girls at SCA events. This seemed to work well. She also made another Greek garment that drapes over the shoulders, not sure of the name, that was used to cover the baby during the feeding. Perhaps you c...
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:22 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: What is the best way to suspend the arm harness?
Replies: 6
Views: 186

This posting appears to have been placed in the wrong forum. It would be more appropriate to move it to the general one. It is not polite to others to post the same question in multiple forums.
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:03 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Teaser pics..or nanny nanny boo boo
Replies: 14
Views: 715

OK, we hate you. However, we would hate you a lot less if you would post some more pics 8)
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:00 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: What are the best options for women who want to swordfight?
Replies: 40
Views: 758

Your best option is to take on the persona of a man while on the field. Wear mens clothing and armor and use a man's name. Off the field dress as a woman and assume a woman's persona. I would be surprised if very many groups would not allow this option.
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:45 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: swords and plate armour - how is it really?
Replies: 98
Views: 1860

It appears there were some simultaneous posts rendering some of my remarks obsolete. I appologize if they are confusing since several posts appeared between mine and the message I was replying to.
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:33 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: swords and plate armour - how is it really?
Replies: 98
Views: 1860

Your question about why we accept the modern scientific data over iconographic data that is contrary is easy to answer. When there appears to be a conflict between iconography and scientific data we accept the latter except in extraordinary circumstances. In other words, it would be extraordinary if...
by lorenzo2
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:07 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: swords and plate armour - how is it really?
Replies: 98
Views: 1860

Saint, Please present evidence that the individuals for hom specific manuscripts were made were 1) warriors 2) had tastes rooted in realism rather than idealism. My understanding from my study of art is that symbolism and fantasy are consistantly displayed in almost every image. That being the case,...
by lorenzo2
Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:36 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: swords and plate armour - how is it really?
Replies: 98
Views: 1860

saint; By your logic the numerous depictions of Saints performing supernatural actions, angels, witches, etc. should also be taken "seriously". Medieval iconography, with the possible exception of some portrature and tomb effigies had the purpose of story telling. Putting the actors in contemporary ...
by lorenzo2
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:25 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Period? Campfire Globe
Replies: 32
Views: 337

Just to complete Jehan's train of logic, Aristotle's works were well known during the middle ages and formed a part of the churches veiw on the earth centered universe. Now it is possible that you can find evidence that some people thought the world was flat. But it was not the prevailing view. The ...
by lorenzo2
Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:45 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A question on something not armour, but metal work
Replies: 14
Views: 378

Polar bear is 100% right on the money. I have done a few jewelry projects including lost wax casing of a 14th cent style ring after one in the victoria and albert museum. Its not that hard if you are willing to do a few trial runs in silver (a cheap way to learn, gold is too expensive to make mistak...
by lorenzo2
Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:03 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: new website
Replies: 9
Views: 355

Very nice work, especially the armet. At last a web site that does justice to the quality of your work! It will be fun to see some of the in process shots for some of the finished pieces shown.
by lorenzo2
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Perfect helm stake?
Replies: 1
Views: 210

Wow! great project. That must be a really great shop if it can deal with such large stock. As to improvments, perhaps one end could come to a blunt point for the initial stages in making helms with a pointed top?
by lorenzo2
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:15 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Pictures from the inside of a breast plate
Replies: 7
Views: 368

Thanks for posting those inside shots. I like the peice even more now that you have shown the inside hammer marks and the tremendous amount of work that goes into that style of brest plate. Of course now that piece is begging to have a fancy gorget. . . Keep up the good work!
by lorenzo2
Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Arming Cote
Replies: 2
Views: 205

On page 83 of Embleton's Medieval Military Costume he shows three drawings of 16th cent arming doublets with mail voiders taken from an early catalog of the holdings of a spanish museum. I don't think these garments still exist so the drawings may be all there is to go on.
by lorenzo2
Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:36 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 15th cent shoe treads
Replies: 3
Views: 92

Unfortunately the rows are too even for flies. Unless they are trained flies. . . What I am looking at is Page 62 of Embleton's Medieval Military Costume where he shows a 15th cent reinactor using hobnailed shoes. Also on pg 37 he mentions a line from piers plowman about knobed shoes and "a few illu...
by lorenzo2
Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:20 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 15th cent shoe treads
Replies: 3
Views: 92

15th cent shoe treads

Whats this I see on the soles of the shepards shoes? Knots, hobnails, treads, something else? I have Gobitz's book and out of 10,000 medieval shoes examined there is only one with hobnails, and that a specialized miners shoe. Anyone else with similar pictorial evidence of some kind of sole tread/nai...
by lorenzo2
Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:01 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm = Done
Replies: 24
Views: 740

Thanks, I missed the fact that that was a link.
by lorenzo2
Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:37 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Forgive me.
Replies: 11
Views: 373

This board is like the wild west. You will need to be tough and thick skinned if you want to be a pioneer and go west and survive. However, out west is where the gold is for those who can stick it out. Who knows, you might even come to like it out here! As to your original question, very tough. Goli...
by lorenzo2
Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:22 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm = Done
Replies: 24
Views: 740

Very fine! However, we need more pics! We feed on pics! We need pics with the visors in different positions so we can see the details! Stop teasing us already! Arrgh, starting to sound like Ugo. . .
by lorenzo2
Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:01 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Drawing of Maximilian I (1459-1519) fighting foot tourneys??
Replies: 7
Views: 134

Several of the drawings are included in Barber and Barkers book on tournaments.
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:50 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Best organized kit guide?
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Gwyn, The references are in the book Italian Cotton Industry in the Latter Middle Ages 100-1600 by Maureen Mazzaoui. I got the book on ILL from The California State University at Fresno. Here is a bio on the author. m The work summarizes bits of the original texts of rules and records of Italian wea...
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:43 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Best organized kit guide?
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Actually the discussion is about italian export records sayingthe stuffis destined for england. However, since you are english it does make cotton much rarer which I take is the reason for the ban. On the other hand, since the material is unusual in england, it does make sense to insist that newbies...
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:30 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Best organized kit guide?
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Wolf, This has come up on seveal threads before. A total ban on cotton (the fiber) is not historical. Perhaps it is considered to difficult to police properly? I mean its pretty clear that the stuff was being exprted to much of europe by the italians and documents like "How a man shall be armed" cal...
by lorenzo2
Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:29 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Best organized kit guide?
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Wolf, I notice the Grey's standards still have the "No cotton, even the fiber, under any circumstances" rule. Presumably that will be updated to read cotton is an allowable substance under appropriate controls?
by lorenzo2
Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:20 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Late 15thC Doublet - Is a seam a terrible thing to waist?
Replies: 50
Views: 736

Waist seam, pretty clear given the seams in the back of the doublet have been so well detailed. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/l ... german.bmp
by lorenzo2
Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:15 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: inventory
Replies: 13
Views: 273

Thanks for posting, lots of great tidbits there. For instance, I wonder what the lead malls looked like and what were they used for, weapons, tools?
by lorenzo2
Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:28 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Cloth covered plate
Replies: 5
Views: 181

Ok export, maybe. Don't think there are any cloth covered elbows from 15th cent still existing, if the colored arms seen in rt re indeed those. However, In Laceys thesis on the development of the coat of plates and the brig he quotes an italian inventory of late 15th cent. Medici? 1496? as listing h...
by lorenzo2
Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:25 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Cloth covered plate
Replies: 5
Views: 181

What makes you think the arm harness is supposed to be Italian?
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:32 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm Progress
Replies: 17
Views: 425

Very nice work. The bevor in particular has sexy lines. Will this helmet have single or multiple visors?
by lorenzo2
Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:19 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Late 15thC Doublet - Is a seam a terrible thing to waist?
Replies: 50
Views: 736

Jeff, number 32 of that series on the web site you posted. I think you put the wrong number in the URL. You bring up an interesting question though, what sort of armour would go with sleeves like that if plate won't work well with it? My doublet has sleeve caps that are similar in length to just abo...
by lorenzo2
Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:14 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Late 15thC Doublet - Is a seam a terrible thing to waist?
Replies: 50
Views: 736

There are a few Italian paintings showing the style with no peplums such as the fellow with his back to us in the grey doublet in this painting cerca 1460. I have a closeup of the figure in a book at home and there is definitely no peplum seam. It is not clear to me that this style was widely used e...
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:03 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Tournaments by Barber and Barker
Replies: 6
Views: 155

I have a copy of that book and it is indeed a must have for anyone with an interest in holding or participating in a tournament. Its also chock full of nice illuminations of medieval tournanents. By the way, I am not affiliated with the seller in any way.
by lorenzo2
Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:39 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Front Closure on COPs?
Replies: 15
Views: 364

Take a visit to pg 47 of this tutorial on the brighthelm web site. It shows a reasonably accurate take on the Chalcis brig complete with instructions. I would call this a brig since it is probably late 14th/early 15th cent and has a somewhat more brig like appearance than COP like appearance. If you...
by lorenzo2
Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:11 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: West Coast Armour-in?
Replies: 87
Views: 1433

The black and white was a cool suite. Unfortunately I forgot to photo it!
I forgot, Pics 36 and 37 are the italian elbow cop Ugo was using for the raising and flairing demonstration. The pen marks are Ugos recommendations on how to make the pattern fit me better.
by lorenzo2
Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: West Coast Armour-in?
Replies: 87
Views: 1433

Here are some of my pics. Most of what I have is video. 11 someone firing an asymetrical bow 12-15 some stakes 16 Okami flaring a cop with a sharpened saddle stake 17 Ugos arm and the "eye" breast plate 18 "eye" closeup 19 me in a 16th cent breast plate, Ugo's work? 21 closeup of inside of breast 23...