The Armour Archive

lorenzo2

Thankyou those are just what I was looking for! Next question, am I understanding from the pics that you will be sharpening up the point of the roll after it is closed? This seems counter intuitive to me. Not that I am questioning it. . . Just want to make sure that I understand what I think I am se...

lorenzo2

A-Bob, Beautiful the way those rolls are flaring out, so even and smooth. Ugo showed me the basics one evening in aluminum so I can appreciate how difficult it is to get them really right. If it is not too late, could you post a pick where the second angle is in place? That and closing the roll are ...

lorenzo2

Were assymetrical arms with the extra elbow guard still the norm in 1490? As I recall arms became symmetric and the extra guard was lost as the end of the century approached. Also, can we assume an armet?

lorenzo2

I was thinking about the the possible helm raising video last night. If the video could include more than just raising the bowl that would be outstanding! Additional bits could include a visor, a forehead reinforcement piece, or a raised comb depending on what helm is selected. Cheek pieces for an a...

lorenzo2

definitely interested in video also! Pics of in progress rolls for the breastplate would be great also!

lorenzo2

here is the Met picture
http://www.mallet-argent.com/images/st_michael_sm.jpg

lorenzo2

Another nice visual source is a painting of St. Micheal at the Met. I believe that one is late 14th cent. The fauld on the St. Micheal is clearly not composed of trapazoidal plates but instead is either complete hoops or hoop segments.

lorenzo2

Has anyone else noticed that Mr. A-Bob now has now put together several of these step by step photo series? Would it be too much to hope that we are seeing the beginnings of a how to book? The title could be something like "Advanced Armoring Techniques". Think about it, you know you are tempted. . .

lorenzo2

Beautiful proportions and finish on that piece!

lorenzo2

frauhirsh;

Can you remember the source of the pic with the hobnails, sounds interesting?

lorenzo2

In Stepping Through Time by Goubitz there are several existing examples of the types of crampons that Owen mentioned from the late medieval period. However, it is unclear exactly under what circumstances these were usually worn. Still, it would be better to use something medieval in an undocumented ...

lorenzo2

If memory serves in the last part of AAOMK there is a picture of a 16th cent close helm liner that is padded with grass and horse hair. It is unclear from the description what the proportions are or how it is arranged. However, assuming that the reference (and my memory) is correct, it seems that th...

lorenzo2

Klaus, those pics sound very interesting, please post!

lorenzo2

I have a book at home called something like 'ancient inventions' by two UK museum staff. They talk about an ancient chinese document where naval forces deployed against pirates request there metal armour be replaced by layered mulberry paper armour because of its lightness and resistance to missiles...

lorenzo2

Nice! Pics of leg armor?

lorenzo2

My guess would be amazons from greek mythology

lorenzo2

Gruber' You said "The metal lost to grinding is GREATLY reduced by a series of planishing passes on the stake to smooth out the outer surface before the grind and polish. If you've been building as long as you say you have then I'm sure you understand all of this..." Can you elaborate on what sort o...

lorenzo2

I like it a lot. Are those temporary rivets on the plackard to allow latter trimming in the central point? Also, could the fauld edege be flared out a bit more? Looks like it might bite into the waist if the model were to bend down. Overall looks like it will be a good fit.

lorenzo2

Good one Hugo

lorenzo2

I was flipping through AAOMK last night and noticed a liner for a close helm is described as being stuffed with grass and horse hair. Apparently then horse hair was sometimes used as stuffing, though perhaps only in part.

lorenzo2

Thanks Tasha, upper and lower sleeve seems a reasonable interpretation then, as opposed to full sleeve and decorative puff over it. It also appears that the Capwell article will have to move to my must have list!

lorenzo2

James, that is a good question. I am making the assumption that the puffy sleeves were worn under armor because of the arming point fashion shown on many effigies and there are also some battle paintings were unarmored soldiers are wearing puffy sleeves. Since I have not found a pic of an italian so...

lorenzo2

No responses eh? Is it that no one is interested in 15th cent Italy or that people are just guessing at the sleeve construction as I am? Perhaps someone who has constructed an arming doublet with the Italian type of sleeve could comment on the construction they used and how well it worked?

lorenzo2

Hugo, those chiopnes are very nice. However, strictly speaking those are high soles, not heels, and being 16th cent are not medieval. If the story could be moved to post medieval venice. . .

lorenzo2

I have been interpreting the typical Italian arming doublet sleeve as being a thin shouder to wrist sleave with a puffy outer sleeve on top from the shouder to a bit above the elbow. In the link below this sleeve is interpreted as an upper sleeve half sewn onto a lower sleeve half. What I am wonderi...

lorenzo2

Trevor, it would be interesting to see the pic you refer to. Of the literally thousands of medieval shoes that have been found and are referenced in Stepping Through Time, Shoes and Pattens, and a few other misc. articles I have found not one has a high heel. If such a shoe did exist in medieval eur...

lorenzo2

Someone asked why a high heel could not have been worn. The simple answer is that medieval shoes did not have shanks. If you open up any quality modern heeled shoe you will find a metal or plastic strip that supports the gap between the heel and the ball of the foot. A shoe with a significant heel a...

lorenzo2

I love the shaping on that helm. I also like the rough from the hammer black finish. You describe it just as "black". By this do you mean blacked with linseed oil, paint, fire oxidiation, or something else? Can we presume that the method of blackening will be part of the forth comming article?

lorenzo2

There are a few minor items of controversy and of course nothing substitutes for your own research. Another thing is that she focuses heavily on English/French styles. Overall the work is good and the methods she gives for making your personal patterns can be applied to a wide variety of medieval ga...

lorenzo2

I don't have it yet. I just wanted confirmation before I set our librarian on it. I will E-mail my request to her. The last article took about a month. If you would like I will scan the xerox copies she sends me. No guarantees on the picture qualty of course or schedule. She would be doing this as a...

lorenzo2

Stonekeep' Consult with a kiln supplier. There is a device called a pyrometer that will show a temperature readout that can be installed on the kiln at a reasonable price. You can even do the installation of the pyrometer yourself if you are handy. Raito, A large kiln take a long time to heat up/dow...

lorenzo2

Online dragons 10 and 11 have some interesting tid bits on this subject;
http://www.companie-of-st-george.ch/

lorenzo2

Is the correct title of the Capwell article; A depiction of an Italian Arming Doublet, Waffen und Kostumkunde, Vol 44, 2002 #2, pp177-196, or is there another article?

lorenzo2

I had a devil of a time getting an article from the same magazine on padded clothing throughout history. The article has a couple of page of info on the existing 15th cent padded armors now in German museums. Our corporate librarian was eventually able to get it for me as a favor. Apparently few ame...

lorenzo2

Hey Ugo great to see your work as always! I didn't notice a pic of the hat with the repousse hair that you put up a while back. Did you ever complete that one?

15th cent italian arming doublet sleeve construction questio