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- Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:41 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
PS: CA? Who joins a game of knightly foot-combat to shoot people with a bow??? Go play paintball, damn it, and let us get back to whacking each other! There, in microcosm, is the absolute heart of the SCA's problems. People respond to another person's area of interest by telling them to go play som...
- Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:26 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
PS: CA? Who joins a game of knightly foot-combat to shoot people with a bow??? Go play paintball, damn it, and let us get back to whacking each other! There, in microcosm, is the absolute heart of the SCA's problems. People respond to another person's area of interest by telling them to go play som...
- Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:55 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Generally, the people that get recognized are the ones doing the work, not the ones complaining about it not being done to their satisfaction. So, generally, rewards go where they should - to people actually making an effort. To some degree, but not necessarily so. I've seen people get their AoA af...
- Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:50 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
I believe this a real and significant choice — and that we will either make it actively — with intention, forethought, discussion, debate, and commitment — or passively — avoiding having to actively make the decision and address the issue and thus leave the decision to current trends and forces. I ...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:49 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
A past President of the SCA (when that person was still serving in that office) once told me that if an activity wasn't prohibited then, consistent with our organizational charter and the safety of participants, it was permitted. The actions and words of senior officers of our organization have bee...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:32 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Vebrand, the small number of people carrying the major share of the load isn't an SCA issue. It's a normal human condition. In any group there will be some people who want to get out there and make stuff happen (for altruistic reasons or otherwise), some people who want to freeload on the work of ot...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:39 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
If the changes you (generic you, not picking on anyone) are trying to make are actually unappreciated then there's a real issue as to whether they need to be made. There's a bit of a litmus test in that. "I want to see X happen" - let me go out and say to the world "I want to see X h...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Lying? LYING? You are constantly belittling peoples honest gripes with what they have experienced in the SCA as "whiners" or "part of the problem". You are constantly telling them they must change what they percieve to be the problem, but if others don't like they change, THEY a...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:11 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Straw men? Because you haven't experienced it, it doesn't exist? Like I said.. you are me.. lowly nobody in the SCA.. what do you do when Blaecstan tears up the contract and ORDERS his shire people to be at Coronation or nowhere? There you go again. I've never said I haven't experienced it. I've sa...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:59 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Sometimes there needs to be a revolution. And sometimes, it's worth reconsidering whether there needs to be a revolution when you really, genuinely, can't find the support to make it happen. Maybe, just maybe, you're the malcontent with a problem... Yup.. the problem of not wanting to belong to a h...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:50 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Max has hit this nail on the head, and both you and Jestyr know it. The solution to the problem you're both complaining about is to stand up and do something, even if it runs contrary to some local powerbroker's personal desires. Just be clear as to whether or not the problem is really with The Est...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:41 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Jestyr wrote:Kilkenny wrote:Max has hit this nail on the head, and both you and Jestyr know it.
Wasn't me! I am thinking of changing my online name to eliminate that confusion.
Sorry
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:09 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Treadmill shows medieval armour influenced battles
- Replies: 27
- Views: 661
Re: Treadmill shows medieval armour influenced battles
We can really put an end to the size speculation. Lots of bodies/skeletons have been examined, someplace there are stats from actual remains, not speculation based on what we know is a radically skewed selection (armour on display in museums). Find the numbers from the archaeologists and see what si...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
oh, this crap again? Tell me how, exactly, the person who doesn't fight is "responsible" for the attitude of "Where's your armor? Don't have any? Then why the hell are you at an event?"? You really have to drop the chip of your shoulder. Seriously. For real. Because it makes you...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:47 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
If you do not fight the good fight because it's difficult and unpleasant and cede power and control (and the agenda) to those who actually want power and control... Then you are almost certain to hate the outcome over the long-term and from my perspective have no right to complain once you get ther...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
What I see in our local Barony is lots of fighters where few participate in the running of things due to politicos who insist on 'controlling' everything, and punish those who disagree with them by giving them bad campsites at wars and such. This kind of behavior has to stop. YEARS ago when I was a...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:28 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
I think judging the health of the SCA solely by how many people put on hardsuit is a bad idea. *Solely*? I think not. I explicitly said it was a proxy measure. It is a means to indicate the shift in the nature of participation. Not conclusive in any way... just an available proxy to indicate direct...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:10 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Want to improve recruiting, we need to change the way we appear to the outsider. All our websites are designed to pass along information to our membership. Same with most of the literature I have seen. No one outside the SCA knows what "Heavy Combat" is, but I bet they all know what "...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:06 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
As an organization, it is far past time for us to become a serious and professionally-run non-profit in regards to how we manage and run our organization. It has been quite some time since we were a backyard party or a bunch've scattered youngsters breaking new ground playing "Knights and Maid...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:25 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Maeryk wrote:Renee is to, no?
Not to the best of my knowledge. The one and only long term full-time employee, but not a member of the corporation. Unsure whether she is actually an officer or not.
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:23 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
No, actually, you can't. And technically, none of us are members. Only the Board of Directors are members of the corporation. The Board elects its own members. He has the same "vote" any of us do, Gavin -- he can write the BoD and say nice things about Max. Which, as I recall, is what the...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Could we work the youtube angle? One minute or less teasers to get them to click on the next teaser which has video from the local group to them? BTW, I'm not replying a lot because Duke Aleric and Max are kicking some butt as far as the ideas. Nothing I can add (except the youtube bit) will help. ...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:57 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pennsic War Champions
- Replies: 52
- Views: 1789
Re: Pennsic War Champions
Nissan Maxima wrote:I think ensure and geritol are more appropriate.
Just because you're relying on them doesn't mean we all need 'em
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Unless we change our operating system, and address thee sorts of issues, we will not be able to address modern problems and overcome them. SCADOS 2.0. Totally dig it. Instead of the "Blue Screen of Death", though we'll have to have the "Flat Snap of Death". Max I really think it...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:49 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
Look at what comes up with SCA music video. m mm.. disappointed in results due to a poor search? And note that one of them is the Jersey Islands piece, which is absolutely magnificent (not to ignore the TMT vid, just pointing out that there were at least two very good SCA videos in there, despite a...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
[ Why does the SCA need to change? If you are not having fun, why are you doing it? If it isn't fun, change it until it is fun for the most people. The only solution I see to this is to go through those comments on WHY people left. The gems might be there. Going through the comments is not a soluti...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:04 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Etiquette on the war field
- Replies: 121
- Views: 1637
Re: Etiquette on the war field
On a gorget, on the fan of an elbow cop, as long as it is visible it should not be required on a helm. You understand that it is not only helms that people get upset about being messed up by stickers, tape, etc., right? The trade off between knowing where to check on Every Single Fighter on the fie...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:26 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Etiquette on the war field
- Replies: 121
- Views: 1637
Re: Etiquette on the war field
InsaneIrish wrote:Kilkenny wrote: Inspection stickers? Sorry, those need to go on the helm.
I disagree. I agree we should have inspection stickers. But I disagree they must be on the helm.
Where would you suggest? I've a number of reasons why I want them right up there on the hat.
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:10 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Aldrevandini beaker
- Replies: 16
- Views: 343
Re: Aldrevandini beaker
I wonder if it might be a nouveau riche sort of thing? Merchant families with money but no titles, buying objects with meaningless "heraldry" as a bit of ostentation? Do these objects tend to occur in time and place that might fit such a hypothesis? For whatever reason(s) they were made, t...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:22 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The Ombrellino, Umbraculum or Pavilion and Medieval Tent Con
- Replies: 200
- Views: 6434
Re: The Ombrellino, Umbraculum or Pavilion and Medieval Tent
There are curtain hooks in The Medieval Household , as I recall. They are copper alloy, oval, with a hook at the bottom. We have one in our collection. It would be fine for holding up a lightweight interior curtain but not robust enough for a canvas wall. I think the purpose of putting a panel of c...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Etiquette on the war field
- Replies: 121
- Views: 1637
Re: Etiquette on the war field
Have you got a source for torses on armets or burgonets in period? Not just "they look ok aesthetically" but some support for it having been done historically? As for "everyone should just wear kingdom colors" - keep your 'group think' where it belongs, in Calontir For a sallet ...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:42 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
I was trying to stay out of this, but I need to ask a couple of questions. Is the SCA what new members are looking for? I know I've been told, by high level officers of the Society, that my interests (experimental archaeology regarding medieval martial arts, attending high fidelity re-creation even...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:35 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
The reason the SCA has Cavaliers, Pirates, American Indians, Aztec Warriors, Musketeers and other OOP persona is that the SCA can NOT STOP THEM. There is no rule on the books that allows the SCA for force compliance or kick people out who are not playing the game correctly. Just some examples of yo...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:43 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
- Replies: 747
- Views: 9549
Re: SCA at an evolutionary cross-roads (A discussion)
I would enjoy it if we opened up the SCA to 1700 AD and let musketeers run around in their regalia for fencing. This would bring "firearms" into fencing possibly, but I think it would be fun and good for recruiting. I've become fascinated with early to mid 17th century warfare and I appro...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:42 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Zoombang helmet padding...
- Replies: 31
- Views: 641
Re: Zoombang helmet padding...
But let's get something straight. blue camp foam has never been a reasonable choice for helm padding. Being better than an inadequate option that really shouldn't be used wouldn't be saying much. Gavin Well crap. I've been using blue camp foam to pad out my helmets from day 1, since that is what I ...
