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- Mon May 14, 2012 8:49 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
- Replies: 353
- Views: 9556
Re: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
"Dude, go some place where they do what you want to do, instead of trying to change the4 SCA game of 40 plus years to be something it was never meant to be." Wait, what? You got that all wrong. Everyone has the right to jockey for their own position, in any circumstance, for whatever reason. There ...
- Fri May 11, 2012 5:15 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA Armor Standard
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1460
Re: SCA Armor Standard
... We currently train to an abstract and entirely subjective standard. Works amazingly well, all told. Were we to have a quantified standard that we could train to, it would still work in pretty much the same way, with some areas trending higher and some lower. ... We wouldn't be changing anything...
- Fri May 11, 2012 1:04 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Coat of Plates backing -- how's this?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 336
Re: Coat of Plates backing -- how's this?
Actually if you want your investment of time and materials to last longer, use the lightest painters' canvas as a base, leather on top. Use an awl to drive your holes not a punch. Small sheets of canvas are available dirt cheap at most paint stores and even at big box builders' supply. It doesn't a...
- Fri May 11, 2012 12:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Get a cannon. BotN, or some other group?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 778
Re: Get a cannon. BotN, or some other group?
I didn't think he looked that big. ;-) Moose All a matter of perspective ;) And personally, I've only ever seen one guy I had to admit was bigger than I was - at least until I took his leg. And no, I'm not a big guy - but part of my fighting mindset is that I am bigger than you, whoever "you" may b...
- Fri May 11, 2012 12:51 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: This may be a silly question, but.........
- Replies: 21
- Views: 715
Re: This may be a silly question, but.........
http://www.woodenswords.com/WMA/singlest.htm This is what I am thinking of, maybe a little lower near the pommel and possibly some tooling to pretty them up. The thread they use seems similar to the waxed line that "trot-line fishermen" use here in Louisiana to set their lines for catfish, it's 600...
- Fri May 11, 2012 12:43 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: One's first time as Marshal in Charge
- Replies: 12
- Views: 209
Re: One's first time as Marshal in Charge
Be sensible. Have the rules in your belt pouch. Have a couple of spare marshal's staves for the folks who will volunteer to help but didn't bring any gear. Have appropriate gauges for checking all the measurements on armour and weapons. Enforce the rules equitably and without regard to station. Don'...
- Fri May 11, 2012 9:36 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Top 5 - Madu
- Replies: 40
- Views: 817
Re: Top 5 - Madu
Aaron - I am still one of the top 5 madu fighters around. I can kill well over 95% of people who bring a madu out against me

- Fri May 11, 2012 9:31 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: SCA- Tell me about Voice Heralds
- Replies: 23
- Views: 457
Re: SCA- Tell me about Voice Heralds
Master of the Laurel, Elric of Erewhon. To the best of my knowledge the only person to receive a Laurel for their "voice heraldry". Been off the radar for a number of years now.
And Donal - do you recal TJ being heralded in as Degeneratum ?
And Donal - do you recal TJ being heralded in as Degeneratum ?
- Fri May 11, 2012 9:16 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: showin off/ love some feedback
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1507
Re: showin off/ love some feedback
From Mac's post up the thread: The painting Dimitri means is this one. It Hugo van der Goes' St. Maurice, or perhaps St victor. I think you're mistaken in your conviction that it is a fantasy design. Lord Dimitri stated it as Fantasy from the get go. Only after he was shown a similar period illustr...
- Fri May 11, 2012 8:59 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Coat of Plates backing -- how's this?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 336
Re: Coat of Plates backing -- how's this?
I would go with 4-5 oz, personally. You want the leather to hold the plates but aren't asking it to provide protection, so the lighter range should be plenty for the job.
And as Irish said, with a COP the leather/fabric is on the outside, over the plates.
And as Irish said, with a COP the leather/fabric is on the outside, over the plates.
- Fri May 11, 2012 6:58 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
- Replies: 353
- Views: 9556
Re: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
So.... I watched alll the fights on the live stream, and I lost a lot of sleep over it, so maybe that scued my thoughts and opinions on all of this, but here me out anyway. The grappling, while I would personally LOVE it, I agree, would be a bad idea. The SCA has some pretty young, up to pretty old...
- Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Get a cannon. BotN, or some other group?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 778
Re: Get a cannon. BotN, or some other group?
I didn't think he looked that big. ;-) Moose All a matter of perspective ;) And personally, I've only ever seen one guy I had to admit was bigger than I was - at least until I took his leg. And no, I'm not a big guy - but part of my fighting mindset is that I am bigger than you, whoever "you" may b...
- Wed May 09, 2012 5:22 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA Armor Standard
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1460
Re: SCA Armor Standard
A fine plan, Gavin. Except it will turn out that no matter what your force measurements, Kingdom X won't want to hit that hard and Kingdom Y won't take that light. It's not enforceable at the Kingdom level. Well, I guess it is, in principle. You could add it to the Society wide Marshal's Handbook a...
- Wed May 09, 2012 5:10 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Viking War Clubs
- Replies: 11
- Views: 403
Re: Viking War Clubs
Clubs wouldn't be unheard of IMO I would bet they would have been plentiful among the peasant levy (and I know that isn't what we are talking about here) Sorta cheap, easy to make and even easier to come by on the fly:) Interesting finds though! One has to wonder why Gram didn't know steel though. ...
- Wed May 09, 2012 1:43 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA Armor Standard
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1460
Re: SCA Armor Standard
It may not be completely clear, or even concise as "just whack 'em til they say good!", but it's better than being given force figures, equipping your weapon tip with accelerometers, and stopping every hit to go to a notebook on the sidelines and figure the exact joules of the shot and comparing to...
- Wed May 09, 2012 1:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
- Replies: 353
- Views: 9556
Re: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
I am not looking foward to anyone running up behind me with an unpadded polearm or a great sword and cracking one off across my back. Sorry but I dont give a hot damn what kind of armour I am wearing that is going to suck and I would honestly lose my cool long before I called it good. I have had it...
- Wed May 09, 2012 1:25 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA Armor Standard
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1460
Re: SCA Armor Standard
While I agree the wording should be changed, I dont think the intent should be. It was mainly set to keep the SCA from turning into a money game. And it has done an adaquate job of that. But if the rules arent written in a clear and concise manner, then it leads to confusion and interpretation. We ...
- Wed May 09, 2012 1:13 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: I your first kit as bad as mine?
- Replies: 72
- Views: 2214
Re: I your first kit as bad as mine?
Mac, While I do agree that nothing can be gained by putting down an individual who has invested either time or money into a fine presentation, no matter what his role in our hobby. Perhaps that individual should make better use of his time & knowledge helping others improve their presentation rathe...
- Wed May 09, 2012 12:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: showin off/ love some feedback
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1507
Re: showin off/ love some feedback
So, your aesthetic senses should trump historical practice ? ;) What historical practice? Sure, it's different - but why should he make armour to your tastes, or mine? ;) Not our tastes, the governing rules of the Society would be nice though. As stated Dimitri has the skill. I just disagree with t...
- Wed May 09, 2012 12:22 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: BOTN armour materials ?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 747
Re: BOTN armour materials ?
I am sure that the distinction the OP is making is between spring stainless and spring that is not stainlessPatternWeld wrote:Aaron,
Mild isn't spring... its carbon content that makes it hardenable. I think most folks are using 1050.
Grimr
- Tue May 08, 2012 5:07 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: No Mind. Do you use it & How?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 980
Re: No Mind. Do you use it & How?
Count Johnathan wrote:Kilkenny wrote: Thanks... dali llama would be one odd looking animal, wouldn't it ?
Isn't that "Nude having fallen down a staircase" ?
- Tue May 08, 2012 5:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 539
Re: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
I was not referring to performance enhancement with the use of Amino Acids, it is to help with repair of muscles following a hard workout. If taken within 30 minutes after your final workout, Amino acids are then able to get into your system faster because the body does not need to utilize addition...
- Tue May 08, 2012 3:06 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 539
Re: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
Steven - If you aren't fighting hard enough to burn a bunch of energy and you aren't working at it enough to be sore after (from the exertion, not the beating :twisted: ) then you are not playing hard enough. ;) I do agree that what you eat during the course of the day's fighting is all about keepin...
- Tue May 08, 2012 2:58 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: showin off/ love some feedback
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1507
Re: showin off/ love some feedback
I'd echo the sentiment of InsaneIrish. You have an amazing talent, putting together these kits, I particularly like the nipple rings on the right. Something about lamellar + breastplate just jars me though. Have you considered a different abdomen armor such as a brig, CoP or even scales? So, your a...
- Tue May 08, 2012 1:48 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
- Replies: 353
- Views: 9556
Re: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
How many times have you been hit from behind? And I mean with the same sort of force you would expect for a "good" blow from the front? Dunno. Many times? It's kind of annoying. I would say that MOST of the time in a melee I am hit by someone because I am unawares. I mean, if I was aware, I'da bloc...
- Tue May 08, 2012 11:06 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 539
Re: Semi OT: Best meal to eat (for recovery) after fighting?
Question for you fighters: What meal best helps you recuperate after fighting at an event? Scenario 1) Assume fighting in the morning, a luncheon meal, and no fighting planned for the rest of the day. Scenario 2) Assume fighting in the morning, a luncheon meal, followed by fighting in the afternoon...
- Tue May 08, 2012 10:05 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
- Replies: 353
- Views: 9556
Re: Will the BoTN change the SCA:s HF game?
I'd like to see two things come out of the BoTN experience. 360 degree engagement and better helmet set up understanding. As for the engagement, I don't think BoTN style take downs are in order, but dead from behind, strikes from behind should be fine. Eastern style engagement rules have always bee...
- Tue May 08, 2012 9:58 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Things I learned at Fighter Practice today.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 401
Re: Things I learned at Fighter Practice today.
I can't possibly count how often I've died making a lovely spear thrust - while someone else did the same to me That's not a fault of offense, it's a fault of situational awareness, of which I have been deficient as often as the next man - probably the ten next men. Now you're just dividing things ...
- Tue May 08, 2012 9:54 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: This may be a silly question, but.........
- Replies: 21
- Views: 715
Re: This may be a silly question, but.........
I'd be wary of making a cup hilt from leather, hardened or otherwise I have a 14g stainless basket that is really warped. And while I bear some of that responsibility by blocking with my cuphilt more often than I should, the reality is that people block with their cuphilts a lot in many of the styl...
- Mon May 07, 2012 8:03 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Help with 2 weapon fighting
- Replies: 21
- Views: 467
Re: Help with 2 weapon fighting
Firstly, "Two sword" is an awful sca creation, with no real historic provenance. http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13510 Every time you Fight Two sword, a little bit of medieval dies... :P The SCA isn't just Medieval ;) Though there is documentation of Masters teaching two ...
- Mon May 07, 2012 7:50 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA Armor Standard
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1460
Re: SCA Armor Standard
Wrong wrong wrong. Aaron. I *AM* for keeping it like it is. I am just for calling it like we actually play it. Which would be what I was talking about, and why I urged that we drop the distraction of what would work through what and all that and just go for the syntactic shift. We do fight "to sati...
- Mon May 07, 2012 7:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: blunted steel - what is the real fifference?
- Replies: 94
- Views: 1430
Re: blunted steel - what is the real fifference?
Aside from equipment upgrades, training techniques or devising new strategy for winning the games themselves have gone virtually unchanged for a hundred years or more. Aside from all the changes nothing has changed? :wink: I'm not saying something should be changed just so you can point at the chan...
- Mon May 07, 2012 3:22 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: This may be a silly question, but.........
- Replies: 21
- Views: 715
Re: This may be a silly question, but.........
Or not, if your hand protection would be legal without the basket hilt.Baron Alcyoneus wrote:As long as they meet the requirement for rigid protection for the hands, just like gauntlets or steel basket hilts do, yes.
- Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Concussions and CTE
- Replies: 237
- Views: 9542
Re: Concussions and CTE
VIssevald gave me an instant headache once - I consider that was probably a mild concussion.
I think it's the only one I've received (knock on wood).
I think it's the only one I've received (knock on wood).
- Mon May 07, 2012 3:19 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Help with 2 weapon fighting
- Replies: 21
- Views: 467
Re: Help with 2 weapon fighting
Terminology:
Longhorn - the two sword style Duke Paul of Belatrix invented in the West Kingdom when rocks were soft
Gunslinger- the two sword style Gavin Kilkenny invented in the East Kingdom, when rocks were soft.

Longhorn - the two sword style Duke Paul of Belatrix invented in the West Kingdom when rocks were soft
Gunslinger- the two sword style Gavin Kilkenny invented in the East Kingdom, when rocks were soft.

