The Armour Archive

Kilkenny

Firstly, "Two sword" is an awful sca creation, with no real historic provenance. http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13510 Every time you Fight Two sword, a little bit of medieval dies... :P The SCA isn't just Medieval ;) Though there is documentation of Masters teaching two ...

Kilkenny

I'm going to suggest that the whole debate over whether or not the blow would have worked be put aside. It is unnecessary and distracting. I would support changing the way we express the definition of what constitutes a "good" blow into something that was self-referential and did not attempt to rela...

Kilkenny

c) My spear form defense is getting much better, but my offence is going to kill me. Not so. Your offense won't kill you , it just won't kill your opponents, thereby giving them more time to try to kill you. Donal, I think he may be suggesting that his offensive timing needs work ;) I can't possibl...

Kilkenny

Yet SCA heavy fighting is about as popular as...none of those. They have found safety in permeating societies and becoming a cultural standard internationally. SCA heavy fighting is nowhere near that, nor will it ever be if it reamains what it is. Adapt to survive, or perish. Now, try apples to app...

Kilkenny

Aside from equipment upgrades, training techniques or devising new strategy for winning the games themselves have gone virtually unchanged for a hundred years or more. Some for many centuries. People paying more to watch those games doesn't change the basis of the game itself really. I do not base ...

Kilkenny

My friend heard about a different style of two weapon fighting that used long swords and a different type of frame work. He currently uses standard A frame and sword lengths that cover to the top of his head. What he was told is that there is a style that uses long swords that uses momentum of the ...

Kilkenny

I think Rugby pack skills might also be a big benefit, if you have ever seen how a group of forwards supports each other in rucks and mauls using group force to overpower the opponent it might be more successful than linear tactics. Only in the event you choose to go for "how can we make this even ...

Kilkenny

That very point (an ADD World) was the subject of a discussion I participated in on-line with some Buddhist scholars (including a couple Buddhist abbots) where the point was made that the modern world is so fractured and intrusive by nature - jobs (sometimes 2), family, the media, multiple hobbies,...

Kilkenny

They would have to be magical weapons, chain armour was VERY effective against swords, spears and arrows. The average SCA style hit, if using a real sword against chain, wouldn't do much other than bruise. I really love unsupported assertions like this. Exactly what evidence do you have for this bl...

Kilkenny

The big stumbling block is the mistake in thinking you only apply it to fighting. You have to apply it to EVERYTHING, EQUALLY. Painting, fighting, washing dishes - all with equal focus and effort and mindset. . Maybe if you're the Dali Llama (sp?) ;) For us modern mortal types living in an attentio...

Kilkenny

The only agenda I will agree to be accused of in this discussion is that steel swords do not act like rattan batons. A sad number of people without experience in rebated steel are keen to relate the two as equals. You, Irish and I are not the only ones in this discussion, let alone reading it. :win...

Kilkenny

Any better now? :) mmm.. maybe. Seems that you're talking about what happens if the steel sword doesn't hit "right" and that missing a bit with steel makes the blow minimal, while the same sort of misaligned edge with rattan is irrelevant to the energy delivered by the blow. To the extent I got tha...

Kilkenny

Diglach mac Cein wrote:I'm willing to bet the best of us only get occasional, brief flashes of true mushin.

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I think it's probably always been that way.

Kilkenny

Seriously, in terms of training for this sport? For those who went through wrestling training in high school and or college - hit the road. Run for miles. If running isn't an option for you, do other things that build endurance. And when you're in good to excellent cardiovascular condition with tons...

Kilkenny

Kel, a couple of thoughts here. First, you do have your physics wrong on the rattan power transmission - all that bending is energy being used in the rattan and not delivered to the target, plus it increases the area over which the energy that is delivered gets distributed. That flexion is the fund...

Kilkenny

...Now, it's not that we don't break bones - some years ago a physician I know who was also an SCA fighter reported that practicing in Arizona he had been introduced to the term "SCA break" referring to having the tip of the elbow cracked off! Tells us it happened with an unfortunate frequency, eh?...

Kilkenny

Who was tilting for the USA? anyone have any idea how that went? I have been watching, but between the feed and the unfamiliarity with the rules for these particular competitions, I have no idea how any of the tilters did ;) From what I understand, it was all Polish jousters putting on a demonstrat...

Kilkenny

HURTS. The blunt skippy is you can not throw as hard with a steel sword as you can with Rattan. The force transfer is MUCH MUCH greater with steel. Rattan flexes A LOT even if we don't see it. Steel does NOT flex edge on. You throw at the force levels of SCA with steel and you will be breaking limb...

Kilkenny

From watching quite a few of the videos, I think that these are important factors in the BotN combat: 1. Numbers matter. If you can peel off or knock down a fighter, the number game means the other fighters are now outnumbered (and things go quickly). For example, it was an even fight UNTIL Nissan ...

Kilkenny

Kilkenny, I see the same comments about how its too expensive to get into SCA armored combat, AE rebated steel, and also into the various reenactment groups I've played with. But the truth is, most of the members in any of those groups are not rich. They just make a lot of their own gear, are creat...

Kilkenny

Said ibn-Ali wrote:
Kilkenny wrote:Maybe I'll do a "BotN on a budget" project, just for the heck of it.

I would love to see what you come up with. Because the BotN interests me, but I am to far out of shape financially to be ready by next year.

You and me both, brother, you and me both...

Kilkenny

The point is, does your typical scadian have 2-10GRAND to dump into a suit of spring steel Italian plate? Not many that I know of. The swords may actually be closer to equal cost in the long run. Seeing as you can get a staff of rattan for 20-30USD, and that will easily make 3 swords that comes to ...

Kilkenny

Whole lot of standing around waiting for things to get started. looks familiar

Kilkenny

Who was tilting for the USA? anyone have any idea how that went? I have been watching, but between the feed and the unfamiliarity with the rules for these particular competitions, I have no idea how any of the tilters did

Kilkenny

I find this to be a stray man argument. Really, just because someone doesn't hear flatt a lot in SCA fighting, does not mean we can't tell we are hitting flat. It could mean that I fight with I high caliber of fighter that doesn't hit flat. It's all about training, WMA or SCA is irrelevant. I don't...

Kilkenny

I find it funny that many of you degenerated this discussion into an arguement about combat style, not the fact that BotN fighting just would cost more. A rattan stick "sword" runs you less than 20 USD a sword, with out a basket/pomel/hilt made by someone else. An average set of SCA legal covered p...

Kilkenny

PS: I've fought in an A&S bout where we agreed we'd permit throws (or rather, I said, 'You can throw me if you like. I can't do it safely, so I won't, but I _can_ fall safely'.). He threw me. It enlightened me on those areas of rapier where our artificial rules alter how we play our game. YMMV No y...

Kilkenny

I hope not. I'd rather swordfight than play, "who can trip who first". First you need a sword to swordfight. Standing belly to belly ass wraping each other with bamboo isn't sword fighting. Still the SCA stuff looks fun. I tried it once at a practice. Was cool. JvR - are you joking, messing with a ...

Kilkenny

Skutai wrote:Respect should also be granted to whoever built that fence. It's taking a beating!

Indeed ! We should get spec's

Kilkenny

As I said, a very contrived sport. But let's not sully this thread with a debate on the subject

Kilkenny

I wonder what the rules say about joint locks. One counter to shield punches (that are coming at you from the front) would be to bring up your right arm (assuming left handed shield punch) to lock the shield arm in place, grab your right arm - or your weapon held in your right hand, with your left h...

Kilkenny

COOL! Never seen that little notch before! Definitely for broadheads, I'd say. Thanks for posting that! Matthew Almost certainly not broadheads, which are hunting arrows, rather than war arrows, and which would cut the leather even with that notch (diameter not great enough to clear the head. But, ...

Kilkenny

, but my Laurel has told me that school comes first, health second, and service to others third. -Zohar You have chosen a good and wise mentor. ;) Heed their words. And, as is being mentioned by various people, you do deserve something for your labors here and should not hesitate to ask for it. I k...

Kilkenny

I definitely recommend a plank over a pan, even lined with waxed or parchment paper. The ribs sound like an excellent idea for shaping the scales. After dipping in the floor polish, I normaly hang my pieces to dry - but don't do scales or lammelar ;) Could be pretty tedious threading them all to han...

Kilkenny

It's hard not to armchair quarterback on some of this stuff. OTOH, it's potentially useful to make observations about what we're seeing happen and what adaptations might be helpful. And, overall, this whole emprise is a heroic one, no matter what the outcome and those of us who are at our homes watc...

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