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by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:13 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: at the risk of being strung up....
Replies: 16
Views: 756

Re: at the risk of being strung up....

Ok, at the risk of being strung up I am going to ask this question to those that HAVE experience in the area. What is a sturdy paint to use on an exterior of a SCA PRACTICE helmet made of mild steel? Has anyone ever used spray in truck bed lining on a helmet? Inside/outside of the helmet? I am look...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:08 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Caring for armor
Replies: 21
Views: 1327

Re: Caring for armor

Hi all, I just ordered a full suit in mild steel. I was hoping to get some advice on what is the best way to keep it in a good clean condition (i.e. not rusting) while in use and on display. Thanks! Scott Just remember, with all this oil you're wiping onto your armor - dispose of the rags properly....
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:35 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm welding
Replies: 17
Views: 540

Huh??? WMA?? Weapons of mass accuracy??? I think I missed something.... WMA= Western Marshal Arts, or live weapons fighting. It focuses on historical fighting manuals, but that is about as much of it as I know. Sorry for the derail, thought that I would just answer that question. In this instance, ...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Which is beter and why? (traditional swords and Katars)
Replies: 28
Views: 419

Sorry, typo. " As Silver says..." Russ, no argument on point fencers. I'll readily concede that the smallsword was the single most effective weapon for unarmored single combat ever created. However, against a cutting sword OR with a buckler, the shorter weapon has a great advantage. Silver says so,...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:57 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Which is beter and why? (traditional swords and Katars)
Replies: 28
Views: 419

Re: Illegal Katars?

Destichado, you state that Katars are illegal in S.C.A. combat, yet the only weapon expressly forbidden is the flail. So where is it that Katars are illegal, cause I can't find it in the official documents. Actually, I know of someone who made an SCA legal katar in the East Kingdom. Very experiment...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:36 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Body size, as it relates to your shield style...
Replies: 54
Views: 1353

lol, I have more questions fellas... Sorry.... What is the first thing I should start on when working with a round,oval,etc ?? My footwork is good, I just havent broke myself of lateral movements yet... Will this be a problem ?? As for my tendancy to punch block, will I have to break myself of that...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:07 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Calibration and Culture...again.
Replies: 64
Views: 1948

Re: Shading Eyes

The tradition in Caid is that you shade the eyes of your fallen opponent until they get up. It nice and everything, but the first tournament I fought here, I was scolded for jumping up to congratulate my opponent before he got a chance to shade my eyes. Iain How very odd. I wonder when that came in...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:12 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA fighting and finger gauntlets
Replies: 39
Views: 1846

So... Why is it that the medieval fought with finger guants for over 200 years (at least in Germany), and frequently with no hand protection at all, yet it the SCA it is questionable whether finger gaunts are even legal? There are many illuminations of people fighting cap-a-ped, but w/o gauntlets. ...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:02 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA fighting and finger gauntlets
Replies: 39
Views: 1846

just my two cents worth but would one think that steel and pading would protect beter then hockey gloves??? Would sort of depend on how much padding, how well fitted, what the steel is like.... Personally, I understand the hesitancy to accept scale finger gauntlets as adequate protection. The paddi...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:36 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

I didn't say "none" I said "most" don't do it. I knew I'd read that somewhere. Thanks for finding it. Most of the time, legged fighters don't hop, they kneel. If you're on your legs on the ground, but your legs aren't "there" you're acually lower on the ground, therefore, the shot that hit you in t...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:26 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Which is beter and why? (traditional swords and Katars)
Replies: 28
Views: 419

You should also consider the differences in the training for each weapon. I once sparred sword and buckler against a man who is a black belt in chinese boxing armed with cestus'. I thought I would easily best him with range, and found that about 50% of the time he was able to close the range and be...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:28 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Mikes' attempt at the SCA helm kit.
Replies: 54
Views: 1991

On helmets i use brass rivits only if they are decorative with the exception of on my sugarloafs and great helms where the direction of the overlap would make the brass a non issue. Its a rule that frustrates alot of people as brass rivits are quite strong. Its a rule i think was based on an assump...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:20 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Opening a can of worms vis a vis calibration
Replies: 182
Views: 3592

Animal, I am not condeming you for what you say or do. I am " Just Sayin' " If you are OK with being partially responsible for the breaking of someone then I am OK with that. But I personally would not want to go beyond what I felt was safe to me or my opponant.. After all, you say you are in contr...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:47 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

A severed leg means loss of blood, fast without without any type of first aid. Which, I think, is what they tried to imply with the hip-kill.. that you'd bleed out rather quickly if your hip/pelvis was crushed. Maeryk Actually, I think it relates to the significant damage to internal organs that ca...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:52 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Opening a can of worms vis a vis calibration
Replies: 182
Views: 3592

I am a bit curious as to opinions from the older SCA members. I was taught to fight by 2 old time Ansteorian Knights. They hit hard, and so I learned to hit like they did. As many of the early fighters came from there, I am curious how Meridies at the least got the reputation as light hitters, if n...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: my thoughts on the SCA and fighting. Any comments?
Replies: 63
Views: 1322

I am a knight in the SCA and I run a WMA fiore based school. I have also been very successful in steel tournaments in the US and Europe. Honestly, the principles of fiore unarmoured longsword can be applied to sca longsword combat. It's core principles can be applied to all combat. No rattan does n...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:11 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: New Brian Price book???
Replies: 93
Views: 6491

warpiper wrote:Bumpage, because it has been another two months.

And inquiring minds want to know. :D


I spent a couple of pleasant hours talking with Brian at Pennsic. Touched on the new book(s) schedule and I *think* we're looking at early 2006.

Gavin
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:29 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: my thoughts on the SCA and fighting. Any comments?
Replies: 63
Views: 1322

Re: my thoughts on the SCA and fighting. Any comments?

I think the main reason I would probably never join the SCA is because of the combat and the associated rules on fighting. Having trained in historical martial arts and now run my own school I cant imagine using anything other than steel as well. Of those member here that are in the SCA, I have a f...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:39 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: has anyone ever tried making a basket hilt ........
Replies: 4
Views: 269

Re: has anyone ever tried making a basket hilt ........

has anyone ever tried making a basket hilt shaped like a gauntlet??? over sized pattern,thicker guage maybe ten or so. just a thought I've been having the last couple of days. all the benifits of a basket but looking like a gauntlet. critter ya ya re-invent the wheel chuckle. Crit, you can work on ...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:29 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Anyone have pictures of the Avant suit?
Replies: 8
Views: 382

Here's a link for one picture: m I don't know much about it though, besides that it dates to middle 15th century and the left gauntlet is a reproduction. Also, the text Avant is placed on it multiple times (hence the name of the suit) and I think it means forward? Correct me you quys if I'm wrong A...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:15 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

Weight limit is an absolute, you weigh the weapon and it passes or it fails. So when you treated your sword, you would take care not to add so much it would go over the weight limit. There is no weight limit on a single-handed sword in either the Society level or Atlantian rules that I can find. Th...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:10 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

Nissan Maxima wrote:Not having your sword tethered to you is apparantly against the rules. Makes it harder to drop if it is tied on.


semantics - you're permitted to drop one of your swords when fighting with two swords - you're prohibited from having swords that are not attached so you cannot drop them :roll:

gavin
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:50 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

Nissan Maxima wrote:SCA rules I didn't know I was breaking (really, I swear)
Grabbing shields with my hand
cross checking
grounding your spear to repel charges
dropping one of your swords on purpose while fighting two sword


Deliberately dropping one of your swords is against the rules ?!?

Gavin
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:41 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

anyone who has a sword last more than three weeks needs to either go to more practices/events or needs to learn how to hit. baby oil has nothing to do with this sport and is not against any rule i understand it. regards logan chuckle.. this is a YMMV item. Even when I practiced frequently and was a...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:48 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

Speaking as a past group marshal within Meridies, I believe rule number 2 of Sir Jean Paul's post is what they were refering to. Like most of the fighting rules in the SCA the rule was made in response to someone doing something that was thought to be harmless but had unexpected results. (soaking r...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:39 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
Replies: 141
Views: 4678

It doesn't materially affect the rattan, other than keeping it from splintering to hell in short order, so if it is banned it's something new. I have a real problem with "oral history" rules of the lists - if it is written it exists, if it isn't written it is an opinion We're not allowed to do thin...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:53 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Why are handsewn clothes so rare [mostly SCA]?
Replies: 79
Views: 1976

Re: Why are handsewn clothes so rare [mostly SCA]?

I was hesitant to start making my own trousers (though I did it long ago for Halloween) until getting some basic advice from Halvy, and I gotta say... compared to hand-stitching leather goods, this is a freaking snap, and much more forgiving, too boot. Seam didn't run the way it should have? Pull i...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:32 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What is stopping us from being more period?
Replies: 53
Views: 1417

Gee, then explain why none of the WMA groups have that problem? You are assuming folks are going to go on the field trying to hurt eachother instead of just throw telling blows. WTF is that about? Well... First of all, everyone works under a set of rules that are arbitrary and modern. Just a questi...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:53 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: cuir bouilli cased greave (day 2)
Replies: 20
Views: 594

Very nice work Uilleag. I'm curious about the choice to set the copper rivets with the burrs on the outside - why did you put them that way ?

Gavin
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:33 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The Ultimate Rhino Hide
Replies: 282
Views: 7270

My problem with theory vs. reality when reading Logan's words is pretty simple. Achems Razor - "the simplest answer tends to be the correct answer" Hundreds of thousands of blows have undoubtedly been thrown and not taken but were thought to be good by the attacker or by observers in SCA tournament...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:21 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The Ultimate Rhino Hide
Replies: 282
Views: 7270

In a tournament the obejective is to win the tournament, honorably of course. If a person is not accepting your shots, find a way to make them accept your shot. If not you lose the fight. Don't lose the fight unless someone's prowess rises above yours. If you lose for any other reason, aside from s...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sword triggers - pros and cons?
Replies: 55
Views: 1060

I believe Animals Pinky & Ring approach has its roots in Japanese sword teaching. I stand ready to advised otherwise... It's an approach that makes sense for a two handed weapon. In a sense one pushes the sword with the thumbs and the closing to grip with all the fingers isn't really generating pow...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:18 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sword triggers - pros and cons?
Replies: 55
Views: 1060

ive never found a use for them, they work against a proper grip and do not add any power. im not sure they make shots any faster since it seems in order to do so they should be attached at the base ofthe sword not above the hand. on the other hand they do work as a marshal deflector if you dont wan...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sword triggers - pros and cons?
Replies: 55
Views: 1060

What mediaeval, rennaissance or even dark age or classical sword was ever equipped with a trigger? Best regards, Robert (Slightly pissed (UK English) and punchy) (But still capable of self editing) Don't know. Would such a thing have survived ? Would it even be recognized if it were found ? Gavin
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:37 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm design & construction?
Replies: 52
Views: 3521

I would consider trying to do the goggles without any bars at all. If the helm sits properly relative to the persons face it doesn't take all that much of an opening to see out well, and the difference in appearance between a helm like this with bars on the goggles and one without is quite significa...