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by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters
Replies: 114
Views: 1873

Re: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters

It still rings false to me as we demonstrably do not strike hard enough to brown people out or disorient them or concuss them. Excuse me, we can, we occasionally do, but it's not the standard accepted blow. I prefer the idea that a stout blow is delivered which shows my opponent could have clocked ...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:33 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

I'm thinking someone told you a story Aaron, maybe there was not a local rapier marshal and folks used that to say rapier asn't available in the area. Rapier has been legal in the East for a long time, I recall seeing rapier at my first event in 1993. Interestingly many of those guys got into the S...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

If you're going to encourage people not to indulge in bias, you need to not do it yourself. It's the difference between, "Can't we all just get along," and, "You need to quit being a douche so we can be friends." No, not really. I get your point. It's not quite the one I was get...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:04 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters
Replies: 114
Views: 1873

Re: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters

And yet, how many of your opponents are actually stunned? Just curious. Guess you'll just have to come down here to Trimaris to see fer yerself! Remember that the concept would be sufficiently stunned as to be rendered debilitated in the combat situation. Even if that's just for a relatively brief ...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:10 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

And blaming it on the heavy fighters - that's just getting caught in the trap. If you're going to urge people not to take sides, you shouldn't do it yourself in the second sentence of your post. In his defense, all the negativity I heard was from heavy biased against the rapier fighters. I heard it...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:00 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters
Replies: 114
Views: 1873

Re: Full contact sparring with synthetic wasters

AaronCarter wrote:.... I find almost no protection on the meaty thighs is necesary, and we almost never see a hit below the top of the thigh, It just isn't a good option in most situations.


Not to derail the thread, but I find this a very interesting comment.
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

Can we all just be adults and let people have fun? There is a cut between rapier and heavy because rapier is not accepted and heavy participants are usually the cause of the nonacceptance. Rapier people pay society dues, pay money to shires, support arts&sci people, bring new people into the gr...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:40 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Finger Gauntlets & Rattan
Replies: 37
Views: 1163

Re: Finger Gauntlets & Rattan

You know better than to look here for a consensus of opinion on a question like that You're going to get everything from mittens are the only safe gauntlets to scale fingers work just fine and don't really even need padding. Some people will insist that finger gauntlets that ground are impossibly un...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:26 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Planning: Armored cut 'n' thrust deed at Pennsic 2012
Replies: 38
Views: 894

Re: Planning: Armored cut 'n' thrust deed at Pennsic 2012

I would be very interested in participating in this. Appropriate harness may prove an overwhelming obstacle, but we shall see. At the very least, it would be something I should wish to witness.
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest
Replies: 79
Views: 1375

Re: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest

All the more reasons for a counted blows system... Boooo sorry, I disagree with counted blows system, u want counted blows mAke a counted blows tournament or make a brand new game. Or larp or something. Do you want 3 nuclear ass wraps from uther in one fight? I don't. And I like that it only takes ...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

Just because the chance of injury is greater with the excessive thrust... I just wanted to point out that the above is simply a supposition without evidence or proof. Hmm. In that case, permit me to point out that what you have said is simply a presumption. You've no evidence or proof that the orig...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

Personally, I don't see a problem, why should I view it any differently than hitting his shield? And if someone does it to me 10x in a row, should I bitch about it, or recognize that I wasn't smart enough to figure out another way to keep him from poking me in the face? Two thoughts. As long as one...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:28 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

I've got a great idea! Why don't you go off and start your own group where you can all run around with checklists! You can have Checklist Envy Wars! Who swings the biggest Checklist? "I hit thirty Dukes five times each...make me a knight!" "I served at feast a gabillion times and I'm...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

I would be interested to see what you would propose as objective means of evaluating people for awards. Remember, the awards are not recognition for simply making x number of scrolls - or whatever - the quality of the work is an aspect of what is judged. An important aspect. Critical. Defining. If ...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

Cedric the Tall wrote:5 Peerages actually

Order of the Chivalry
Order of the Pelican
Order of the Laurel
Order of the Rose
Royal Peer


Conflate Order of the Rose and Royal Peer. They are not distinct.
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:48 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

5 Peerages actually Order of the Rose The Order of the Rose doesn't necessarily carry a patent with it -- I know it doesn't in a couple of kingdoms, so if it's a peerage out there, it isn't necessarily across the board. I believe it is the case that the Order of the Rose does carry a patent, while ...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

Well, thanks for not stooping to insults. However, it is my understanding that the awards like Pelican, Laurels, Knight ignore things like letters of recommendations from commoners like myself. I know this because I tried once and got told so. For the "Knight" award I don't really have mu...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

I am sorely tempted to boot this topic to Political; both for the subject matter and manner of discussion. It isn't close to a CA thread in its level of hostility or banality. It's also not "political" anymore than any other discussion of how the SCA is organized/run, which would mean Max...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:40 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

Configure your phone to keep the contacts and SMS on the SIM cardYou've got an absolutely idyllic concept of how pure democracy would result in good decisions, because you have no clue how people actually make decisions and what kind of totally screwed up crap people will vote for, or why. Hey you'...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:51 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

What needs to happen NOW is a change to a true democratic rule. The SCA should make a forum. Only paying members get to register on it. Anyone can make a poll on a new/old policy/rule. If, after a year, if 75% of the votes go one way then it gets made into an official rule. That will help steer the...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:15 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest
Replies: 79
Views: 1375

Re: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest

If people are so against it, then why do we do it? Because "people" are not so against it. Some people, who are strongly represented on this board, feel strongly against it. Some people, not so strongly represented on this board, feel strongly for it. Probably the majority of people don't...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Future of SCA fighting
Replies: 1068
Views: 14417

Re: Future of SCA fighting

What needs to happen NOW is a change to a true democratic rule. The SCA should make a forum. Only paying members get to register on it. Anyone can make a poll on a new/old policy/rule. If, after a year, if 75% of the votes go one way then it gets made into an official rule. That will help steer the...
by Kilkenny
Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:33 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest
Replies: 79
Views: 1375

Re: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest

Bottom. It does make me wonder now even being in the bottom and giving up the advantage if it is a good practice in chivalry.... or perhaps stupidity. That's the confusing part. I want to be known as a chivalrous fighter. No matter my fighting level. But I see what you are saying. Tasia This is one...
by Kilkenny
Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest
Replies: 79
Views: 1375

Re: [SCA] Consent to Points of Contest

In the East, many, many years ago, giving the "point of honor" simply wasn't done. Effectively no one thought anything of it, the fight continued based on what you had lost and what the other fighter had gained and that was it. Then, some people started giving the "point of honor"...
by Kilkenny
Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:32 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Pyramid Leather
Replies: 17
Views: 595

Re: Pyramid Leather

I would be very interested in hearing any sort of historical basis for that design. And no, I don't think relating it to anime, or lorica segmentata, actually qualifies. Did the maker actually have an historical basis, or did they just draw inspiration from some historical pieces and make something ...
by Kilkenny
Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:02 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Pyramid Leather
Replies: 17
Views: 595

Re: Pyramid Leather

I'm not clear from your post what you are asking. Do you want a supplier of leather for you to make your own armour, or are you asking about a maker you are considering buying armour from? I have not heard of Pyramid Leather before your post, but a little internet sleuthing shows they're a maker, no...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

Count Johnathan was right from the get go. I don't think it's chessy or against the spirit of the SCA and I do it because we allow one-shot kills. I can go back 25+ years and it was standard teaching for two-sword fighters to block with their baskets, so hard to say it's against the spirit of the S...
by Kilkenny
Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:38 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to teach yourself to not hit flat.
Replies: 30
Views: 754

Re: How to teach yourself to not hit flat.

To avoid striking flat, a shaped grip that lets you know your edge alignment is the single most valuable tool. Shaped blades help make it more obvious (on both the striking and receiving ends) when you land flat, but a shaped hilt tells you if you're properly aligned before you hit. And checking you...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:45 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Opinions/Suggestions on Leather Demi's
Replies: 11
Views: 301

Re: Opinions/Suggestions on Leather Demi's

One of the easiest ways to harden leather is to just soak it in acrylic floor polish. The polish saturates the leather and polymerizes. Won't mess up your artwork. Next time, I would recommend starting with much heavier leather - I don't make armour from less than 13 oz. Have you a brand that you p...
by Kilkenny
Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:21 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Opinions/Suggestions on Leather Demi's
Replies: 11
Views: 301

Re: Opinions/Suggestions on Leather Demi's

I like to keep the part covering the hand made of thinner (8oz?) leather and the cuff made of the thick stuff (12+oz?). I find that otherwise the gauntlet becomes waaaay too bulky. If you are interested in making something that looks more like an hourglass gauntlet, I suggest doing what I did using...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:04 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

2. Inadvertently bringing the hands in contact with the striking surface of a weapon in motion, as when attempting to block a blow with another weapon, shall not be considered to be in violation of this convention. Yes sir. And: C. Target Area 8. Blows that land outside the legal target areas shall...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Worst Pennsic XL Moments!
Replies: 493
Views: 9500

Re: Worst Pennsic XL Moments!

Unrepentant. Untouched by reason or sense? You've walked in and taken a dump on a man you don't know from Adam and in the process revealed a great deal about yourself that a wiser man would have kept hidden. You're now well known to a remarkably large number of people across the Knowne Worlde as a ...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

So, because these things can often be answered definitively with a little bit of research, here's the applicable rule from the Marshal's Handbook currently in effect. See bolded portion. IV. THE USE OF WEAPONS AND SHIELDS A. Weapons shall be used in accordance with their design. For example, spears ...
by Kilkenny
Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:30 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Legal use of a baskethilt
Replies: 86
Views: 1417

Re: Legal use of a baskethilt

A previous SEM addressed this issue by specifically stating that the basket hilt is part of the weapon and therefore blocking with it is not target substitution. As far as I know, that ruling remains in place. I find there to be an inherent defect in the ruling, as it leaves us with the situation wh...
by Kilkenny
Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:59 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Worst Pennsic XL Moments!
Replies: 493
Views: 9500

Re: Worst Pennsic XL Moments!

I won't. Not until the day that you can't pass an authorization as thorough as the first one you ever took. And I pray that when you are an older fighter, the Marshals who re-auth you are strong enough to give you that thorough authorization. Because, as sucky as it would be to pull your card, it w...