The Armour Archive

dukelogan

i finally understand the reason behind many of the pro ddfb crowd. its the easy kill. take that how you wish (and im sure someone will get bent over it) but if you disagree please try to be civil. when i fight people its a contest. i do it to see if i can overcome the odds against me. to me slipping...

dukelogan

no gabriel its not. it is taking someones argument to the extreme. one can not simply say that in period warfare such and such would have happened and therefore we should do it. that is what i was addressing. i will add that you did make two false statements: Neither is true where DDFB is concerned....

dukelogan

i touched on that with: if you think that without goobing from behind or fouling peoples weapons up you have lost an advantage you are sadly mistaken. i take my unit of 10-20 into the backfield and we engage people at our pace. its a combination of number superiority, surprise, and the breaking of m...

dukelogan

ahhh thats probably where part of the communication confusion comes from. when i picture getting into the backfield and coming in behind someone its a much deeper line. in your picture the guy has a "good guy" in front of him trying to best him. in that case im all for binding his weapon (even thoug...

dukelogan

ok then, which war? im pretty sure i can find more than one example of fire being used to cleanse a field of bad guys. guess thats my next tactic to employ. "hold!! all of you guys from me to lord bob are now on fire and dead!". would add realism into this game that has created its own definitions. ...

dukelogan

actually what i asked was how is one man fouling one mans weapon is a unit tactic. unless your unit all foul my weapon in unison its not a unit tactic. its one man coming up behind me to foul my weapon. the unit may well have gotten tot he backfield but its the actions of one man on another. thats a...

dukelogan

well now that we have established how to flank someone and how to get into their backfield (things i assure you i already knew) i would still like to know: how is one man fouling one mans weapon a unit tactic? its rhetorical and i see my point wasnt gotten. the argument was suggested that fouling we...

dukelogan

either of you guys want to explain how its a unit tactic to foul a mans weapon or to declare him goobed from behind? or is that one man doing it to one man? i dont understand the argument that seems to suggest that ddfb is a unit thing. also, i still havent seen why its even needed or wanted. regard...

dukelogan

But, Your Grace, would an honorable soldier in the midst of a battle where his life hangs in the balance give the same offer of engagement to the enemy he stands behind? Consider that the soldier is part of an army that stands between the invaders and the town they are defending where his lady and ...

dukelogan

thats very kind of you to say and im not sure i deserve such praise. i would say that i think fully 99% of the fighters out there share in a sense of competition and fairplay. sure, there might be a few idiots that dont know how to act. sure, there might be a few guys out there that break the rules....

dukelogan

i added something after you responded. either way, what is there to be gained from besting someone without allowing them to be tested? and i think fouling someone from behind so that someone else can best them is indecent. i would rather fight you in sport than cripple you for slaughter. regardless....

dukelogan

dye swinging?? i picture you with a vat of colored liquid dancing to harry conick jr. no, my question was, do you think i could hit you if you were totally unaware of my position and not hurt you? regards logan damn! i should add: how about instead of me goobing you with my sword i invite you to fi...

dukelogan

one last thing. i grew up in queens new york. among many things queens is top of the food chain, its the handball capital of the world, the stickball mecca that defines greatness, the birthplace of rap and good taste (not that those two go hand in hand but you see what im saying). the other thing we...

dukelogan

just a quick question in hopes of clarifiying something you stated clearly. are you suggesting that i could not hit you unaware without hurting you? or did you mean that just "d." could not? regards logan D. Our conventions give me the right to take the field in maile with kidney protection. that's ...

dukelogan

funny, we dont have goob from behind here and we dont have idiots that crank guys unaware, and we dont have asshats that refuse to turn and fight. not sure what youre getting at gabriel but i think you have a problem in your fighting culture if you think goob from behind is something for "sane" folk...

dukelogan

in the sca, ummmm........ yes. regards logan Interesting. So unarmoured 19th century troops had little damage inflicted on them by massed horse archers doing parabolic volley fire (partially due to incompetence, but still), yet we are supposed to believe fully armoured knights were turned into dying...

dukelogan

i dont know allen, i was thinking rather the same thing.

regards
logan

AllenJ wrote:no real answers other than get better at placement and telling the guys to suck it up course I imagine that wont go over well. Here some fun pell stuff though:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/pells.htm
http://www.thearma.org/essays/pell/pellhistory.htm

dukelogan

andreas (east)
steffan (east)
logan (atlantia)
steffan (east)
christopher (aethelmarc)
steffan (east)

i think................

regards
logan

Theoderic wrote:Who was in the quarter and semi finals?

Is there any standing of who has won BotB at Pennsic throughout the years?

Theoderic

dukelogan

having never seena need for anything but the tap on the shoulder, the guy turns around, and we fight, its hard for me to imagine the shot to the front. sounds good by me. but im all for allowing us to hit people from behind. all this talk of realism lacks in comparison to allowing full contact blows...

dukelogan

how wonderful jacob. nicely done and an amazing improvement with a little effort. if you do take commisions let us know as i have a few archers in my influence. all target archers mind you, but they might be interested nonetheless. well done! regards logan ps anyone else feel sickened by the rolling...

dukelogan

m and your statement: which forces any non-American kingdom to have to suck it up and order 500 units of an endcap over the Internet because if we get caught using something that you or I can buy in the local Hornbach, our card will get pulled. is just silly. you have a huge resource of people on th...

dukelogan

ahhh finally something he and i are similar in! me not being 40 feet tall with 10 foot arms and all. sigh, 10 months was not quite long enough for me to hel up. but i had fun trying...... regards logan Havek (Houvc?) from the West did not fight, as he was injured, and made himself stay away from the...

dukelogan

all this talk of a little effort going a long way. so very un-scadian of you all. dont you know that people simply can not do that? they are college students, or busy people, or they lack skills, or the tools.... my oh my... the tools. how dare you all suggest that a little effort goes a long way!! ...

dukelogan

absolutely!

logan

dukelogan

if that is the case it is a very sad attempt to write rules. not to mention it further robs the spirit from what sca sport combat should be. a better definition for grappling is all that is needed. this would include, without doubt, taking a gauntleted hand and grasping a shield (as well as any othe...

dukelogan

everyone take a deep breath. it is my interpretation of the rules that i can indeed make body to body and/or body to shield contact, as long as i dont grapple, at any time. hip check, elbow to the shield, slapping the basket away with my shield, punching the basket with my basket, etc, etc. until th...

dukelogan

like many rules in the sca the first is poorly written. a basket is very much part of the weapon since it is attached to it. your comment on using your basket to manipulate a shield strikes me with curiosity since you can use just about anything to manipulate a shield as long as you dont grapple wit...

dukelogan

wrist straps make little sense to me since they are only required on single handed weapons. and yes, there needs to be room between the combatants and the spectators. too often i have closed with someone after having to chase them around the list only to have a marshal call a hold because we were cl...

dukelogan

i belive he was in the top 6 logan actually he wasnt. we had three finalists and they fought a round robin to determine the winner. regards logan I'm fairly certain there were four finalists... Centurion Tomas from Ansteorra was one of them. He rocks the house RIGHT! Oops... my apologies... perhaps ...

dukelogan

actually he wasnt. we had three finalists and they fought a round robin to determine the winner.

regards
logan

Jean Paul de Sens wrote:I'm fairly certain there were four finalists... Centurion Tomas from Ansteorra was one of them.

He rocks the house RIGHT!

dukelogan

wasnt that bad this year. i had 874 non business related emails when i got home. ive gotten through about 1/3 thus far and will get through the rest this week. i feel terrible but i dont have the gentlemans name in front of me. he fought very well and i was very impressed by his demeanor and his pro...

dukelogan

atlantia averages around 25

regards
logan

dukelogan

sorry tessa actually it does not. anyone can drawn an sca bow and anyone can let it fly. when the arrow touches someone it is considered devestating. this is the problem and it is ridiculous. if you can show me where i am wrong i would love to me better informed. however, in most of the sca a monkey...

dukelogan

unfortunatly in the sca it doesnt require skill with either a longbow or a crossbow. you can just as easily lob an arrow into the fray with a longbow with no practice at all and still "kill" worthy men that have dedicated time to an art. in most sca kingdoms it is the mere touch of the arrow that is...

dukelogan

so anything that supposes to be plate is? in that world why would anyone wear anything but their proclaimed plate? curious logan armor as worn is a horrible way to go about it. who defines what is and what is not appropriate armor? is plate just a piece of metal or is it of a certain design and thic...

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