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by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:59 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

you are more than welcomed to my camp trystan and i would be happy to give you a beer or two. three, hmmm im not a rich knight but i might could swing three. woods battle was not my baby. the war over all was lost but it was a fun time regardless. always has been at pennsic. glad to hear the prowess...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:46 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

i dont think anyone has done that gaston. only pointed out the vast differences between the four. but i have read time and time again the affirmation that peerages are not typically easy paths to take. i firmly believe that and feel that all should be held in the ame light (although we know that doe...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:37 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

ooops i read your words as "two sitting kings" thus the reference to havorc. im pretty sure havorc was squired at some point but i could be wrong on that one. and yes, they were all welcomed once we got them shaved and bathed and speaking like humans. havorc, christian, and balynar are great guys an...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

as king i, on three occasions, had people say that they could not swear an oath of fealty to me because of some religious issue or another. i told them that they could promise to do what was required in whatever way made them comfortable and committed to following through. i also had a couple that c...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:07 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

i assume you are referring to count havorc and hrm raggnar. i would beg to differ regarding havorc. when i first met him he was wearing a horrible table cloth for a tunic and had an ugly spun top helm. we fought in the semi finals of the second crown i won. it was our first fight ever and he caught ...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Under Armor under the armour?
Replies: 21
Views: 617

like bryce i wear one of the cheaper versions. i have reebok and nike brands and i like them a lot. i sweat when its 30 degrees outside and my tabard is double sided and acts like an oven mitt. i have notice a slight drop in core temparture but more importantly i can move better than when my shirts ...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

hey alaric, new guys are never that good. so its not been an issue nor do i think it ever will. there are too many skilled fighters out there to handle the new clueless guy. sure there were some concerns when i won my first crown. i had only been playing for four years. but most people were ok with ...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:28 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

membership is not a requirement to take the field in almost all kingdoms (cant think of any that still does pay to play). but you answered your own question: It's my understanding that most of the Tuchux are members of the SCA (so that they can fight at SCA events tuchux are tuchux not sca. and if t...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

sorry to go off topic again but i just thought this might be easy to understand. here is a hypothetical, a newbie comes to the sca. he is a great guy in all aspects. hes 90. can he become a laurel? sure. can he become a pelican? sure. can he become a knight? what about a 20 year old guy that is blin...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:57 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

ok how about this. i have nothing to gain from "discussing" anything with you since you make shit up in your head and then act upon as though it was truth. if you can point out one time that i have ever said anything remotely resembling you charging me with uttering: "YOUR agenda says that Knights a...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:43 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

you are correct but it seemed to drift and that is were i jumped in. sorry. but if you understood what was being said i dont see why you would make a comment about knights needing a chest thumping venue. the two dont seem to fit together. regards logan more on topic i think that people need to diffe...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:33 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

hey maeryk, 95% of those understood what was being said. however, there are knee jerking guys like you that scan messages and take in very little. then take little bits and pieces and twist them around to sound like something that fits their little agenda. then they post little rants that fall far f...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:29 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

please read what i wrote and take those snippets in the context in which i wrote them. i know plenty of fat guys that can fight and i know plenty of fat guys that i call brother. the fat guy that i was referring to was the fat guy that teaches about period widgets but is unable to fight for health r...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:22 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

hey maeryk in case you missed it the discussion was about the sca and the structure of recognition in that organization. it went further to ponder what it takes to get into each of the peerages. what that has to do with the real world is beyond me. please, if you insist on being outrageous, try to s...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:17 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

and here i thought i had dumbed down my comments enough so that everyone could understand. not surprised though. let me try this and see if its easier to grasp. to show mastery of service one must serve to a very high level. lets say 90% of people are CAPABLE of doing so. most people simply do not h...
by dukelogan
Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mercenaries in the SCA
Replies: 146
Views: 2648

i agree with his graces statement and i offer my take on it. not saying this is what he was thinking but i offer it only as a slap of reality. just about anyone can serve. from the infirm to the juvenile. service is one thing that almost anyone in the sca can, and should , do. at least to an extent ...
by dukelogan
Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

ha, how funny considering my last post about your "skills". i should have said beer bottles that are only 12 oz and that have modern labels on them. i guess i thought that was a given.

touché

logan


Maeryk wrote:
beer bottles


Glass bottles are quite period.

Maeryk
by dukelogan
Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

Re: Making of a King

blue jeans, tennis shoes, coleman chairs, blue hair, chain maille bikinis, coolers, coke cans, beer bottles, cell phones, plastic armor, morons with bumper stickers on their helms, and ez ups are not, by any stretch of any imagination an attempt at anything medieval. that is what i am talking about....
by dukelogan
Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

again its your communication "skills" maeryk. you said tattoos, not yosemite sam tattoos. animal responded to what you said not what you meant to say. but at least you hit it dead on with the sleeves. please people if you are going to wear tunics at least have sleeves. this to me is a higher level a...
by dukelogan
Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

Re: Making of a King

the problem jared is that the charter excludes certain things that many people are ok with turning a blind eye to. alaric isnt suggesting that we exclude all but 14th and 15th french or anything even remotely like that. what he is suggesting, and i support as well, is that we finally start to enforc...
by dukelogan
Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i bet if i said ice was cold you would have some half asleep retort. sorry if you cant grasp what i am saying but i really dont feel like trying to explain everything at a level that you understand. like i said, the tit for tat isnt worth it to me anymore. oh, and the knight thing, you really have n...
by dukelogan
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: hitting hard or not?
Replies: 113
Views: 2730

animal has it balls on with that one. the problem is that there are some senior level marshals that really think the sca should be a game of tag. i have found these types to be the most fragile on the field and the loudest about how "unsafe" the sport is. feh! try rugby, boxing, hockey, football, an...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:18 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

my opinion on "pirates" is well known and i have hurt more than one cool ass black leather pants wearing, skull and crossbones flying, rapier fighting, eye patch wearing, sex machines feelings in my kingdom by speaking my mind on that subject. but i really dont care. i offered to grant letters of ma...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i knew better than to think you were attempting to insult me. but it did come across that way when you felt the need to remind me that the sca is (or in my case, was) a hobby. after i won my first crown i was scared to death that i would screw up the job and make the kingdom a less than pleasant pla...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

im all for privateers. they are employed by the crown. sure, they are pirates to the bad guys, but who cares what they think anyway! there is nothing as low as a pirate. they trade in murder, thievery, slavery, rape, and cowardice. they still exist in many parts of the world and yet uneducated peopl...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:35 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

with all due respect as well i have never held a court on a tuesday, i dont wear my belt and chain on mondays, and i havent "killed" the enemy of my "kingdom" on a thursday (except at pennsic, but i think you get my point). i dont draw a fine line between the modern world and the sca world. i draw a...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

if he was a member of my kingdom and fought against me without my permission or for payment, or he demanded payment to fight with the kingdom he lives in, hell no. by the way, i think service, like fighting, is its own reward. i only reward those that i think dont care about it and only serve to bet...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:11 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i havent gotten around to getting all of my patterns together and .pdfs created for them. however, a great and simple pattern can be found at: m his benches run around $7 each to produce and can be made to look rather nice. i think they are too long but they certainly do well. glad to hear that you ...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

vermin i am truly sorry that you think me deciding that i wouldnt have a reason to call someone into my court that sells their loyalty as i see anyone that puts a price on their loyalty to be less than noble as serious crap. as king, i have the right to call whom i wish into my court. as a man i val...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

if only the world worked that way. i too wish it took nothing but peer pressure to get people to act and dress properly. but that has failed and i have witnessed a constant decline on what is and what is not acceptable. i think the huge influx of coleman chairs and plastic armor caused it honestly. ...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

yes, the modern form of the word is used to describe people of a certain region. but you said: Logan, Vikings, Saxons, Landsknechts, Japanese, Mongols, Scots, and a host of other period cultures did not fight in the tournaments you are attempting to recreate here either, does that mean they shouldnt...
by dukelogan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

congrats to you both and thank you. hopefully you will make it and we can sit for a while and talk shop. regards logan Duke Logan- it is still up in the air whether I can make it to Pennsic this year; our first is due end of June. Jen wants to let me go for at least a little while, if that is workab...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

perhaps that is why i am a knight and you are not? i follow my king as that is my duty. i do not sell my loyalty as the idea of that is base and vile in my mind. and you are not my enemy. you have not earned that right. you would have to prove yourself a person of much less character than i think yo...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:00 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

well maeryk since i never have nor ever will pay a man for his loyalty and i think youve made it pretty clear your opinion of me i would venture to say you would have no business in my court should i ever assume the station of king again. nor do i suspect that you would ever be called into my court....
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

deal. im a wimp with the drinking stuff though. anything darker or thicker than miller lite is a bit much for me. but if you made it i will finish at least one. will you be at pennsic? logan i find that to be perfectly acceptable if i were to call you into my court. entering my camp i would only hop...