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by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i find that to be perfectly acceptable if i were to call you into my court. entering my camp i would only hope that your hand would be extended for the beer i offer you. by the way, i shared your signature line with some of my guys. they found it to be very appropriate for me as well and think highl...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

but you would salute as a show of respect no?

regards
logan

Owen wrote:
does this whole crawling in to court thing (well it was a little uncomfortable the first time he did it to me).


hmmm... I think you'd either love me or have me killed; I am a Roman, and we do not kneel to Kings. :D
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:05 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

true but i think we would be missing out on a wonderful experience to see some other cultures if those of an eastern persona did that. i love japanese culture and know a few guys that really do a good job of portraying it. one who lives in northern atlantia does the whole part really well. nice garb...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:55 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

the tit for tat obviously is not working. the quotes you have from me are based on your blanket disagreement with points that i made (wow thats a surprise). since you disagreed with me i was asking you if those things were acceptable. in your world they must be. i really see no point in continuing t...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:34 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

the charter says europe. oh yeah and viking is a verb not a noun. i think a case could be made for several cultures that were paraded around as oddities in europe during the time constraints of the sca. but that doesnt make it the norm and it also doesnt provide any evidence that these people would ...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:07 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

sorry, i thought i was clear when i stated: "should he decide to portray that persona off the field i would applaud his efforts but not on the field." i think a case could be made for several cultures that were paraded around as oddities in europe during the time constraints of the sca. but that doe...
by dukelogan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:46 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

while i am glad to hear that he is a man of good character and virtue i feel that he should consider following the rules of the game he has chosen to play and pick a persona that falls within those rules. i would not knight someone in that case. should he decide to portray that persona off the field...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

while i applaud his efforts and all i dont think that he should be on the field as is. of course i am only judging this by the head shot provided. i would ask him what he is portraying with that helm. i dont think i would bounce him from the field but i would strongly suggest he try to focus on some...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Worst Tourney you ever fought in?
Replies: 141
Views: 5261

i sure did trystan and im sorry i butchered the name. i also read your story about the novice list and you being restricted due to your previous experiences and im not sure how i feel about that. i have marshaled a novice list in which i forbade a knight from entering even though he just authorized ...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:47 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Worst Tourney you ever fought in?
Replies: 141
Views: 5261

thanks for the encouragment colin. my guys always do well and make me proud. hell, sometimes they even win a few. i watched the video that was provided for me and i thought they did ok. some very simple mistakes were made and they lost some feild control in a few fights. the whole not being able to ...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:33 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

there is nothing in the rules that states the armor must be made out of period materials nor the helm be made in a period fashion. but i understand what you are asking. colin i would say he fails on several accounts: General: 1. The fighter should appear as a reasonable example of a warrior from the...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:15 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

ok then i guess we agree to disagree. if i understand you correctly you are saying: t-shirts are ok for the sca visible motocross gear is ok for the sca people have a right to fight in the sca armor is expensive and can not be made to look proper without breaking the bank in the sca people that clai...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

it is painfully apparent that you really have no idea what you are talking about maeryk as i have never said nor suggested anything like that. i have never suggested that someone fight in a totally period suit of anything. and, in fact, plastic is allowed in certain circumstances. try educating your...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:33 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

thus far i have not heard of a single time someone has not been allowed on the field because of the new rules. the kingdom was given 6 months to comply and there was a fair amount of discussion during that time. the exceptions to that have been few and far between. in fact i only heard two people co...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

dilan, glad to hear the things are looking up in the mid as well. now if i can only get valharic to keep his feet on the ground when he fights...... you are correct in all the ways to accomplish this goal that you have listed. i think that with enough effort and encouragement most people will do jus...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

well caid has always been full over overdressed folks with way too much talent so i cant speak for alaric. however, here in atlantia we have seen a nice improvement both on and off the field. the rapier community has started to police its own and many of the rapier tourneys now specifically ban mode...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

well since your tone is much more productive i feel that i should address your questions as they are good ones. my comments are interspersed and preceded by >>>>>LOGAN wow you really are an idiot huh? the point alaric is making is that the rules exist. follow them or go play somewhere else. why is t...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:20 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i agree with you uilleag in many ways but i have simply grown weary of this guys vitriolic ramblings. he carries himself as an idiot and a toad and has for a long time. his posts to this archive are neither helpful nor intelligent and he likes to stir up the pot for no reason. i often refer to peopl...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

my comments are interspersed and preceded by >>>>>LOGAN "animal, please drop the whining commentary. nobody is whining. simply put, the rules exist and are in place. while i applaud your efforts many of your buddies dont care about the rules that everyone is expected to follow. beyond that is the bl...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:55 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

nice of you to pay attention there. the rules i brought up have to do with dress and behavior. i was not talking about the field in my initial commentary. but to address your pointless rant i would suggest that wearing a tshirt and undisquised motocross shin guards with bumper stickers on your helme...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:51 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

wow you really are an idiot huh? the point alaric is making is that the rules exsist. follow them or go play somewhere else. why is that so hard for you to understand? the concept is very simple so you should be able to grasp it. feh! and no one made him king toad he earned the opportunity to do tha...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:49 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

my issue involves following the rules that are already in place not chaning anything. the sad fact is that the sca has rules regarding dress and behavior but fails to enforce them. some groups enjoy coming to sca events and playing the bad boy part and violating those rules. flaunting their violatio...
by dukelogan
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:40 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

glad to hear that. as i said i was told that he was the king. that, it appears, was incorrect. thanks for the clarification. regards logan A correction, Your Grace. That gentleman, in the neon armor and ninja turtles stuff was not the Crown of Lochac at last Pennsic. He is, however a Knight in that ...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Florinteen- It doesnt mean only swords
Replies: 27
Views: 511

but not amongst men in cote armor. so the style in and of itself should not be used in sca heavy combat. dual weapons like a sword and a dagger are certainly knightly pursuits, but a sword in each hand should stay in the fantasy books. regards logan ...means of the city of Florence, Italy where figh...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:16 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

animal, please drop the whining commentary. nobody is whining. simply put, the rules exist and are in place. while i applaud your efforts many of your buddies dont care about the rules that everyone is expected to follow. beyond that is the blatant disregard for our rules that is an annoyance to no ...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:43 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i disagree. our rules for appearance on the field are ours and should not be forced on to others in a tourney like my squires tourney. while i would love to see knights take some pride in their students i dont think that barring them from my tourney is the best idea. i was disgusted at that sight at...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:19 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Re-write the Requirements for Participants in the SCA
Replies: 223
Views: 4261

i agree 110% alaric and brought up that issue on the sca-wide chivalry list not too long ago. pennsic is an sca event and the rules should apply to all. the rules are in place and should be followed by everyone . other groups may attend but they too need to adhere. enforcement would be easy. securit...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:22 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting footwear
Replies: 23
Views: 638

Safest in that they are the best thing for what we do in this sca combat system. and i sure would rather fight in what our forefathers fought in. however, i am in the sca and in the sca fighting has little to do with what they did. and, they did it for sport and for pay. in the sca its different, if...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:15 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: just say NO to field hockey gear
Replies: 187
Views: 4113

that being the case gaston you and i agree 110% on this one. not surprising as you are a man of fine taste! regards logan Oh, and Logan-- I never would have known you wore hockey elbows if you hadn't said so. So that means it passes the "looks good enough" test. I was a little surprized that you mad...
by dukelogan
Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:31 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: just say NO to field hockey gear
Replies: 187
Views: 4113

Re: just say NO to field hockey gear

how many times must you and i repeat this truth alaric? once someone suggests that we all start wearing "period" stuff one of us suggests that we then go to true fighting. then some pc crap gets started about weight classes and how dangerous fighting would be if we actually did it. crazy. but the sc...
by dukelogan
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: hitting hard or not?
Replies: 113
Views: 2730

hi there richard, i disagree with your statement regarding armor and locality. i have heard the argument that tirmarians take light because they wear little armor due to their heat and whatever. i have been to a dozen practices in trimaris over the years and i will tell you without a doubt that its ...
by dukelogan
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:58 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting footwear
Replies: 23
Views: 638

the safest footwear for sca sport combat are football cleats. specifically running back or linemen patterns. high top cleats provide better ankle support than just about any boot and the style of fighting that we do in the sca mimics a lot of the movements that running backs and linemen do. the issu...
by dukelogan
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:41 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: hitting hard or not?
Replies: 113
Views: 2730

armor and metal fail. welds break, steel fatigues, and rust weakens it. you simply can not make a blanket statement such as that maeryk. and its not necessarily unsafe either. depends on the equipment and the way its fitted. i would agree that it is a rare case in which the things i mention happen. ...
by dukelogan
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: hitting hard or not?
Replies: 113
Views: 2730

ha! those are the nice things too. i only wish the bad ones were said to me, not about me. but that would actually require the people saying to actually have met me, or spoken to me, or fought me, or whatever. evil incarnate i like as well. see you in a few months my friend. regards logan See that L...
by dukelogan
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:32 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: hitting hard or not?
Replies: 113
Views: 2730

ahhhh i remember that one. i was very concerned about it all day. the shot i threw was one of my wide wraps that generate right at the end of my arms extension. i threw it and peppered it at the end as the intent was for it to rise up into the side of the neck / bottom of the helm. the arm was carri...