The Armour Archive

dukelogan

thats not joint damage, its soft tissue damage. regards logan ps st damage sucks, i know. but thats not what i was asking. im not aware of a single incident in which injury was done to a shoulder joint from the impact of a weapon. are you? Yes. Myself. When I was first starting to fight I was using ...

dukelogan

so ive asked, for a long time, for evidence of how fragile some folks think the human body is. including, of course, examples of light pokes to the face that kill or arrows that hit folks and drop them with a single shot (even without armour). ive been gathering evidence to the contrary and was just...

dukelogan

i dont think a physical defect that allows injury should be a reason to create more armour requirements. thats kinda like banning swimming pools because a quadruple amputee rolls himself off the diving board and drowns. regards logan Yes, as a matter of fact he is doing rehab right now and will be o...

dukelogan

im not aware of a single incident in which injury was done to a shoulder joint from the impact of a weapon. are you? regards logan Given no change in current calibration and weapon standards , what armour standard would get everyone (OK almost everyone...some people are born brittle) down to between...

dukelogan

yes, but in context this came up when discussing little light face jabs. the toughness of the human body part that is. regards logan For what it's worth, a friend of mine had her lung bruised when someone hit her sort of in the back while she was half bent over engaged with someone else. The shot cr...

dukelogan

yep. muay thai guys create a ton of scar tissue on their shins (usually by rubbing them with wooden rolling pin like tools until they bleed) but rely on micro-fracture healing to allow them to throw shin strikes. hours and hours on heavy bags. buakaw por. pramuk has a training dvd which has him shin...

dukelogan

none! i am super-human! seriously though, im not a particularly large or muscular fellow. an ive been hit many times in my bare arms, sometimes even causing a great deal of discomfort. im just not a fan of rules that do not address safety or give choices. i know a ton of guys that dont wear vambrace...

dukelogan

uh oh.... youre now going to get deluged with "what ifs" and "i bets" and theories on how weak the human skull is and how easily someone could push a sword through it..... i know firsthand, trust me. regards logan I don't think there is a significant risk of catastrophic conseque...

dukelogan

i dont know. trimaris has a rule that requires forearm armour because four folks got their arms broken at some point. wierd thing is that they were all wearing vambraces when these breaks happened (see! vambraces are dangerous). i havent worn a vambrace in 18 years and have never broken my arm. im n...

dukelogan

doesnt the fact that the force behind whatever padding is in front is being pushed by a 1.25" pipe come into effect? my guess is that the force comes forward in a cone shape and i doubt the edges of the face have any effect on the force being transmitted. im guessing here. i do know that all of...

dukelogan

aaron, i think you should add to your consideration that the folks from aten posting here have claimed not that they "lack control" but rather that their fighting culture feels that weapon standards and armou should account for an occasional lack of control and protect the fighter. this is...

dukelogan

i honestly do not know how they were tested in atlantia. i was given permission to test them but failed to do so as the 3" tips make it so easy to "kill" folks anyway. as far as being tested in big melees to be honest there are not many in atlantia (im now in trimaris and have zero id...

dukelogan

the problem, it sounds to me, is with this guys training. if he is new why is he throwing so hard in the first place (as you describe as borderline excessive)? when i train new guys i make sure they understand that power comes later. first is to make them comfortable in their gear (i dont use loaner...

dukelogan

they are in stock and ship the same day if ordered early enough.

regards
logan

Trystyn of Anglesey wrote:
Gaston de Vieuxchamps wrote:I'm ordering some Mandrake tips...

Me too. And some Logan Spears.

dukelogan

that is not what i mean at all. what i mean by having some skill is simply a far cry from the authorizations i have witnessed over many years. those being the ones were someone clearly cannot fight but, in not being able to fight, they pose no "threat" to those doing the authorization who ...

dukelogan

its not much of an option for those that feel, rigtly or wrongly or whatever, they are unsafe. i think the question has been asked, is this something that was needed to enhance our sport. clearly i do not think there is such thing as an "unsafe" weapon but it is also clear that some cultur...

dukelogan

oh what nonsense. ive trained many dozens of folks over the past 20 years. i have never sent them out until they were skilled, knew the rules, and had a clear concept of what our sport is. many are now knights, royal peers, and the current king of atlantia. a few are gone, sure, but it wasnt because...

dukelogan

i firmly believe that the problem with these assumed "once or twice a year fighters" is simple. most folks have such pathetically lax expectations on authorizations. it drives me nuts that the common mantra is "well he is safe enough so he is now authorized". why? why on earth do...

dukelogan

3" tips are still legal. anyone can use them if they wish. how is your ability to do your shield prying thingy gone? logan In industry increasing the chance of injury by removing safeguards for an increase in productivity is absolutely not allowed. I have no idea why we would do such a thing in...

dukelogan

it does shed light on exactly what i was saying. it states that 3% of blunt force chest trauma is sternum damage (cites motor vehicle accidents as the major cause. cars hit a lot harder than we can) and of the 3% only 1% are fatal. again, a pretty tough chunk of bone. reverse punches in karate clear...

dukelogan

i doubt any of us could hit the xiphoid process hard enough with a legal sca weapon to create a dangerous situation. its hard enough to break the sternum much less to hit it with enough force to send shards into the heart. shoulder pads dont cover the xiphoid process and pro football players hit exp...

dukelogan

i think we are still suggesting that the aten/estrella fighters are lacking training. i would offer that it sounds to me like they are getting training, just different training than many of us are used to. they are trained that armour should protect the target against a spear trust even if you throw...

dukelogan

omarad covered this. first, you have to make a bunch of them and send them to the various kems to look at / use. then, after some time they may be allowed on an expiremental basis (whats that run? for some reason i have 1 year stuck in my head but im not sure). after that they my be approved. if it ...

dukelogan

actually it makes perfect sense. to boil it down, you should be able to throw with your upper level of force and not worry about hurting everyone you hit. in that case (and i wish we all played that way or close to it) these might very well be an issue. that is, however, not a problem that can be as...

dukelogan

when did i say 14ga ss wasnt sturdy enough? they dent so i always suggest folks spend their money on 12ga ss instead. that dents too but very very rarely. and please dont find insult in my statements about control. im sure that these tips hit harder than the big giant foam ones do when thrown the sa...

dukelogan

i think that the biggest problem we have with our regs are the flood of "perceived safety issues". i am firmly in the crowd that understands that no weapon is dangerous, its the user. if i can hit too light with a weapon the weapon can be used safely. the whole "common denominator&quo...

dukelogan

ban all thrusting tips. learn control. get a real helm with a secure chinstrap. this is all very silly. i can thrust people with bare rattan all day, i prmoise they will take it if i do, and i promise they wont die a horrible death. even those fools that think the human body is a weak soft bubble of...

dukelogan

hey brother! ive really not fought since my injury at gulf wars in 2009. i should be healed up from my hand surgery 7 weeks ago by then and i do plan on being at gulf wars this year. im not a champion of any sorts but i do live in trimaris now and i guess, you guys are the "bad guys". i he...

dukelogan

everything that has been paid for has been shipped. there are a few folks that emailed me (at logan@ebonwoulfe.com and not on the archive message thingy which i hate!) about placing orders after payday or whatnot. if you are still trying to get one at this greatly reduced price you need to hurry as ...

dukelogan

any pictures?

regards
logan

hjalmr wrote:I sell 16g MS mitten gauntlers for $80.

(^_^)

dukelogan

18ga? i dent 12ga stainless steel on occasion, 14ga fairly often, 16ga i can crush with my hands, 18ga? i just dont think thats an idea that i would float for sca combat. regards logan Hi, We have in stock a lovely pair of articulated hand made gauntlets. Our price is Â£159.99 + P&P from England...

dukelogan

got it. ive already shipped everything today so yours will go out in the morning. expect delivery in 2-3 days.

regards and thanks for the order.
logan

Geirmundr wrote:I just ordered, I hope you have some left!!!

Skalla

dukelogan

thank you for the high praise. ice and i are very particular when it comes to the products we carry in our armories and i assure you we stand by these and the aluminum versions that will be in stock soon. not to mention, hrh duncan of trimaris just won crown a few weeks ago....... all thanks to his ...

dukelogan

got the confirmation on your payment. i just returned from my shipping run so they will be shpped tomorrow morning. if your order had come in just a short time earlier they would have been on the way to you today. regards logan just sent payment for two via Paypal via website - please let me know AS...

dukelogan

quick update. we are in the single digits now with what is in stock. if you sent me an email and have not responded to my response you should do so soon. our new stock is coming in soon and prices will be back to normal. so, a ss hilt will run you $60 plus shipping (average in the us is $10). why pa...

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