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by Chris Gilman
Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:12 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA Kits that give a good impression
Replies: 94
Views: 2838

Re: SCA Kits that give a good impression

Sean Powell wrote:Can I recommend Galfrids kit to the collection?

Sean

It’s nice and clean, I may have picked that for this list if I had seen it, but I'm bugged by the fluorescent green and ill fitting sabatons. The helmet also seems very large. I know these seem nitpicky, but this is part of the first impression.
by Chris Gilman
Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:06 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: First Try at a Birka Pouch
Replies: 18
Views: 396

Re: First Try at a Birka Pouch

Of the examples I have seen the ends can be held on with a simple length of copper alloy (brass) rod peened at both ends or a straight rivet through the plate and leather. If I may offer a suggestion as to your tooling, it looks like you have used Tandy style leather crafting tools to stamp you patt...
by Chris Gilman
Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:53 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: another interesting find
Replies: 10
Views: 399

Re: another interesting find

I looks to be a "dog", used for securing rebar through cement footings. The pieces of rebar protrude through the plywood footing, these dogs "lock" onto the ribs of the rebar to keep the plywood from bowing out under the weight of the concrete. Once it's set, these are spun off t...
by Chris Gilman
Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:45 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Surecoat patterns
Replies: 17
Views: 408

Re: Surecoat patterns

If you want it to look correct, what armour do you have or plan to wear? Find an image from one of the effigy libraries and post it. The generic SCA surcoat / tabard is most often not correct looking.
by Chris Gilman
Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:52 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA Kits that give a good impression
Replies: 94
Views: 2838

Re: SCA Kits that give a good impression

By the way - Your "the next 2 are 10's" I think are the same armour being displayed differently. And That is certainly the one I was thinking of when I said that there was a 1510 harness that was worthy to be in the "best", I just didn't work and go find the picture. Wade Yes, I...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA Kits that give a good impression
Replies: 94
Views: 2838

Re: SCA Kits that give a good impression

And here are some of mine: These all use the same Kydex torso protection and in some cases, limb protection: Although the Cavalier ones are Out of period, they show how a difficult period can be adapted to the SCA requirements. http://www.globaleffects.com/Temp/Gaston2sm.jpg http://www.globaleffects...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:39 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA Kits that give a good impression
Replies: 94
Views: 2838

Re: SCA Kits that give a good impression

Here are some more: These next two I consider "10"s. http://members.armourarchive.org/robertdc/Raglan2010/TomMonmouthByPavillion.jpg http://members.armourarchive.org/robertdc/Raglan2010/TomMonmouth.jpg http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=26906 http://forums.armourar...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:38 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA Kits that give a good impression
Replies: 94
Views: 2838

SCA Kits that give a good impression

I see that there are many threads about what is wrong with SCA armour, but only one in the direction of what is right with it. This thread is called “Best Historically Documented Armour in the SCA”. If you consider this question in context, "...best in the SCA" then I think a couple of my ...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:03 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Varangian Helm from Shamrock Armoury
Replies: 70
Views: 8007

Re: Varangian Helm from Shamrock Armoury

Nicely done. Great adaptation
by Chris Gilman
Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:20 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: BEGINNER reference pages
Replies: 138
Views: 3038

Re: BEGINNER reference pages

Daggrim, Your paraphrasing is correct. I have found, people as a whole, will do only what is asked of them. When I started in 1979 the required armour pieces (Minimum safety requirements) where less than they are now, compared to some Kingdoms, much less. There was no authorization, you showed up an...
by Chris Gilman
Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:58 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

Are you serious or are you just goofing? Perhaps you should have picked this one: http://www.globaleffects.com/C_pages/Rental/Wardrobe/Armor/Period/CompleteSuit/European/scaleaurther_hi.jpg This is stuff for movies, have you ever seen me wearing that (the one you posted) at an event? How many authen...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:24 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Roman Sica for SCA combat?
Replies: 7
Views: 302

Re: Roman Sica for SCA combat?

I have had success using a propane torch to bend it. The surface gets burned slightly, but it does not seem to detrimentally affect the rattan.
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:14 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: BEGINNER reference pages
Replies: 138
Views: 3038

Re: BEGINNER reference pages

daggrim2, Your opinion does carry some weight, because you are new to the SCA. However, I'm not sure I see your point of the nastiness of the rebuttals. Let me see if I can give this some perspective. Hypothetically if you came to me and asked for directions to the center of town, not only would I t...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

The fighter on the right, in the above photo, is a good example of no one thing being wrong, but the anachronistic combination of all the elements making it an SCAism. Modern Japanese martial arts clothes, plastic "Clam shell" gauntlets (of which there is no such term I am awear of) and SC...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

How are those arms different from your Vendel vambraces? Yours are made from metal on leather. Mine are made from leather on leather? How would you do an elbow cop for early period? Is it the material of the splints that you disagree with? This is a good question and it brings up a valid point of i...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:46 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

I have made at least 2 dozen different armours in my 30 years in the SCA This is kind of a significant factor, don't you think? And not everyone has a natural talent for art - shape, form - that "eye" to make things look right. . To a certain degree, yes you are correct. The same way Ugo ...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:34 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

I made to show how someone could make a great looking armour with a minimal amount of experience and limited tools. It was offered as a “Kit”. Now, the cuirass is based on an erroneous construction done at the Metropolitan museum in the early 20th C., but it is not a complete fantasy design in my o...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:50 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: BEGINNER reference pages
Replies: 138
Views: 3038

Re: BEGINNER reference pages

It's more like I'm saying... make sure you get this, to be legal, then design your kit accordingly. I'm sorry, but I cannot let this go without standing up and saying DON'T DO THIS, IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY YOU WILL REGRET LATER!!!!! I spent so much more money and had such an ugly mismatched kit for a...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:43 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

Bayard, I have to disagree here. Why make , in this case a gorget, that is not a copy of anything, instead of a copy of a gorget that existed? If it is not a copy of something that existed then it should be hidden from sight, and it should be made in a way that it doesn't stick out as a "lump&q...
by Chris Gilman
Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:29 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

I want to say for the record that I'm kind of bummed that you used my barony as an example in a couple of those photos. I understand your problem with most of the pictures, but what is your problem with the close-up of that gorget? I am the one that put that photo group together and the problem wit...
by Chris Gilman
Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:45 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Extant 15th C. Hosen
Replies: 22
Views: 475

Re: Extant 15th C. Hosen

It appears the top of the hosen are reinforced / stiffened by that seam, I see no reason why they wouldn’t be any different than modern trousers in their ability to remain in place. I often think how many of this type of thing are still in existences, that are only known to those in the academic cir...
by Chris Gilman
Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:08 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Kiln construction, heat treating.
Replies: 14
Views: 455

Re: Kiln construction, heat treating.

Unless learning the art of heat treating is your goal, I have to say, I can see no reason to do them yourself, even if you want to make many things, as I do. Modern alloys have many advantages if heat treated with modern techniques. Sending them to a vender who knows proper techniques for sheet item...
by Chris Gilman
Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:23 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Can't....resist....need to post picture of my new Helmet :D
Replies: 10
Views: 858

Re: Can't....resist....need to post picture of my new Helmet

Handsome
by Chris Gilman
Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:48 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Get them on the field and looking good (now with more Wiki!)
Replies: 88
Views: 1905

Re: Getting them on the field and looking good!

I would agree with a list, but perhaps it would be more beneficial showing time periods in say 50 or even 100 year blocks and give solutions to the basic SCA required areas of protection. i.e. 1400- types of elbow protection- example, types of knee protection- example. This way some types of hidden ...
by Chris Gilman
Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Get them on the field and looking good (now with more Wiki!)
Replies: 88
Views: 1905

Re: Getting them on the field and looking good!

when did the SCA turn into a bunch of period Nazis. i realize that we are trying to recreate the middle ages and to research, learn and teach but when did we start making newbies (who in my area are few and far between) look period? I mean seriously as long as they are safe and wearing the required...
by Chris Gilman
Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:53 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Get them on the field and looking good (now with more Wiki!)
Replies: 88
Views: 1905

Re: Getting them on the field and looking good!

Mostly what I was hoping for was people to take a little time to get pictures of some kits, in fact I recall Chris Gilman in Grimbah's thread stating that he'd be willing to do that. Everything else I could and would be willing to do myself. But if not, no loss on my part. I am willing to help you ...
by Chris Gilman
Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:43 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Get them on the field and looking good (now with more Wiki!)
Replies: 88
Views: 1905

Re: Getting them on the field and looking good!

You know he is trying to help. That counts for something. I find crapping on his effort in bad taste. There is room for people that want to start out his way and people that want to start out yours. I've heard people say they started out the plastic route because they wanted to make sure fighting w...
by Chris Gilman
Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:27 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

First I must apologize as I have not had time to read through this thread in its entirety. I will, but I had a thought this morning and I wanted to get it out there for people to think about. If this has already been brought up, my apologies for missing it. Also, I would like to express my appreciat...
by Chris Gilman
Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:53 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Syr Garan, This is not what I was referring too. I see what the SCA looks like, so do many other people and the “Mission statement” of the SCA is why people outside, (and some members) see the SCA as ridicules, because we claim to be something we are not, nor do we try to be. What I was referring to...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Once again, the problem with long threads is I get the sense people did not read them, in fact I often get this sense from short threads as well. It is maddening that while trying to find a solution to a problem, or convey an idea, people chime in with opinions that are not consistent with the facts...
by Chris Gilman
Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:57 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: BEGINNER reference pages
Replies: 138
Views: 3038

Re: BEGINNER reference pages

Well said Arthur
by Chris Gilman
Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

In my opinion, your view should be tempered by pragmatism and less absolutism. But you know what they say about opinions What do you see as absolutism? I have been trying desperately to get across that I do not see the SCA becoming a "Living history" group in the strict sense. I have also...
by Chris Gilman
Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Sigurd , The point about the gauntlets is covering them or not. I idea of taking a grossly non period item and putting a period material over it, is not really going to make it better, so don't waste your time. If I made a Darth Vader helmet from Blued perfectly authentic 15th century steel, would i...
by Chris Gilman
Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

However, I joined the SCA 30 years ago because it was a group that recreates pre 17th century history and hits each other with rattan, full speed and full contact . This... The main draw of the SCA (to me and most whom I know) is the fact we can bash each other with rattan. I do not see much recrea...
by Chris Gilman
Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I have 2 pieces of uncovered plastic in my kit. I am, however looking for a cover for my EGG gauntlets ymmv You should refrain from commenting unless you have read this thread. It gets tiresome reposting things that have been already addressed many times. It is not the plastic, it is that No matter...

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