The Armour Archive

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There is the outer layer of whatever uphostery fabric is made of, a layer of felted wool in places it needs padding, then two layers of cotton fabric for the body liner and two layers of linen for the arms. You had better move north as quickly as you can cause it may very well kill you down here fo...

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Some spanish effigies appear to have almost a bevor, but many illuminations of infantry gambesons show neck protection as part of it.

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You know what is realy impressive about this thread is the quality of the heraldry. There are very few instances of bad SCA heraldry on here. And just cause I can't say anything remotely nice without complaining about something. Those of you who paint non-heraldic scenes should look at shading and w...

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I am not sure, but I a growing a very deeps suspicion that the variety is not just in the 14 and 15 centuries, but that different shapes of shields were in use at the same time. We seem to have a limited number of sources and even those provide more than one option. There tends to be a standard shi...

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You find a lot of different shield shapes in 14th and 15th century Europe that we don't often think about. When we think of shields we tend to think of the popular cavalry shield of a decade. There are tons of curved oval shields in 15th century Italy, possibly Spain. Southern Europe stuck with infa...

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To be 14th century Mafia I believe you have to have The White Company by Doyle.

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Ok if someone who has the ability to just lock this thread that would be nice. Otherwise neither Doug nor MJ has any real valid point of view on this topic. Neither has spent much if any time in the SCA or doing LH. So the two of them arguing is just the mute arguing with the deaf.

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Some context of what is being talked about Park would be nice. The piece. I know its a shield.

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Sir Gaston is in southern Austin and should know the armourers in that area. There are a couple east in Houston as well.

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Peder, one of the reasons most people do NOT use plank shields is that they can not take the repeated bashing that plywood can. Historical shields were not meant to last the way we HOPE our shields do. One of the reasons I asked was that conventional wisdom isn't always true and even when it techni...

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Medieval shields were often essentially plywood. Multiple layers of thin planks laid down with suceeding layers oriented differently. Glued and nailed together... You should know better then to post something like that without references Park, and a single incident doesn't not a blanket statement m...

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Has anyone tried using a shield made of planks instead of plywood for fighting in the SCA. How did it hold up? what kind of wood did you use?

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Jehan de Pelham wrote:Yes, I thought Brent was in the East due to the reference.

I will be sure to include California next time to really make it confusing.

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Yes a pair of silk socks is one thing... but when someone asks "should I buy a pair of shoes?" and the person says... "these shoes feel great for me, but they might not for you," is what i am getting for you. Ok we can go with that one. I am going to buy soccer cleats and play s...

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Anyone tried Propane and compressed air?

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You must do what is best for you. I really think you're better served not attending SCA events. You strike me as the sort of chap who doesn't much like to build, but prefers a ready-made situation. Get invited to events held by people who do what you like, and leave the SCA alone. I've both built a...

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Jehan, Investing time in building groups 'interested in faithfulness to representation' isn't always an investment that pays off. Investing in something you believe in can be fulfilling even if it doesn't pay off but anytime an investment doesn't pay off it tends to makes one think more critically a...

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I guess I would like a clearer definition on your views of the terms "invest" and "pay-off" Are you looking for a monetary pay-off? A self-fulfillment pay-off? An educational pay-off? I guess I am just unsure of what you mean by "pay-off." Can be any and all of those t...

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But ultimately the tourney is for fighters above everyone else. At least that's how I feel about it. This issue came up some in Vitus's under 30 thread. If the most important thing is to give the fighters more fights where the outcome is important then yes it should be. If a fighter wins a fight an...

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I found it to be a long and boring tournament to be around and many people had stopped watching by the finals.

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Brent, invest in Crossroads in Time. John I know you believe in that project but I don't see any investment in it paying off in any real way. Investing in 15th century LH is an easy choice because not only was it the goal instilled in me but I've seen it pay off with little loss. Due to the sheer s...

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I'm not 14th century Mafia but there is a great book called Chaucer's World which is a sourebook for late-14th century England

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Interest, yes. An avenue? Not so much. Without the SCA there would be no "intermediary" groups.. it would be D&D and high-fidelity, and that's it. There would likely be a good number of vaguely medieval sword fighting groups like you find in England and on the renfair circuit. Also fr...

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I really wish people would start making new threads if they want to discuss something very tangential to the intended subject of the thread. How many people on this board can honestly say they would not have any interest in Medieval history or artifacts if it wasn't for the SCA? Generally, people wh...

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In the facsimile of the Toison d'Or, I found another instance of a bend for a recognized bastard. However, in this case, the bend is dexter, not sinister. I will pull out book two and hunt down the full description of the fellow's arms. There are A LOT of bends on shields in that book for supporter...

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InsaneIrish wrote:I don't think that is what Halvgrimr meant. The term "you get out of it, what you put into it" has more to do with people's attitude and willingness to achieve.

I didn't ask about the original meaning. I simply said that brought the question to my mind.

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You get out of the SCA what you put into it, why should anyone GIVE you anything? This comment by Halvgrim brought up a question in my mind. Why should those of us on the outskirts of the SCA who are not invested in the SCA system invest in it. Why should we take time away from our personal pursuit...

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The bend (actually usually baton) sinister was less common than one might think. More common was the bordure compony such as that same illustration has around the fleurs-de-lys of France. The Beauforts were, as I understand, descended from the natural children of the Duke of Lancaster: Beaufort, Ea...

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I am looking for examples of Bastard Cadency, most especially the bend sinister. The only actual example I have found is the arms of Anthony Bastard of Burgundy.

[img]http://www.wga.hu/art/c/coustens/ant_burg.jpg[/img]

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For a lantern outside for trips to the privy of what not you might consider starting with a solar charged light with a light sensor on it so they turn on automatically at night, also would be good for finding your tent when your stumbling home drunk.

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I'm aware of the recent efforts to poke holes in that perception with some good scholarly work, but I'm afraid those scholars are getting shouted down. They are only getting shouted down in the media or those who need to support the old ideas and not among their critical peers. Comparing the Spanis...

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I wish I was near you, I'm quite sure there is a LOT I could learn from you on how to go about research. Definitely, especially as you have a desire to learn. That really is the fundamental of doing research. That is one of the reasons why I rarely answer questions here anymore is that most of the ...

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i already put my reaserch time in at the u.t. libraries, besides i'm fairly certain my kids wouldn't be all up on the quiet field trip. . . piperolls are teh funzor . . . at least that's what my prof at the time said. Depending on the age of your kids they actually have a children's collection in t...

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They do pass the 5 foot rule, are comfortable, and cheap. I've yet to get or make a proper pair of hosen, but it's pretty high up on my wish list, along with correct shoes. *sigh* If by 5 foot rule you mean they look correct at 5 feet then I'd say your incorrect. If by it you mean they vaugely look...

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They do pass the 5 foot rule, are comfortable, and cheap. I've yet to get or make a proper pair of hosen, but it's pretty high up on my wish list, along with correct shoes. *sigh* If by 5 foot rule you mean they look correct at 5 feet then I'd say your incorrect. If by it you mean they vaugely look...

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