The Armour Archive

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The Vikings as a whole rarely did squat for anyone in North America. It was a small core group of folks within the Vike that always supported VNA. It isn't a belief that they gave yall any support it is the idea of having something to build around and in particular combat at Hastings. Problem with ...

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One of the biggest problems for 15th century is that there is nothing to coalese around like VNA has in the Vikings.

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Firstly it is way to early to see the numbers as anything other then those who get to play on the internet all day long. Letâ€™s see. 9 years ago I had roughly 7000 people at Estrella when I was king. This last year we had somewhere around 4200 last I saw which is devastating! There are some threads...

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The issue isn't really whether or not a properly functioning shafted arrow is safe or not (because those probably are), but rather how UNSAFE the defective ones are and how damaging they might be that is the issue at hand, because even defective siloflex is relatively safe to an armored combattant....

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There are creditable reports (one of which I conducted a first hand interview) of deflections causing serious rib injuries. From just Fellwalkers or other blunts as well? Generally by the society rules shafted arrows are only allowed from light bows and siloflex from heavy. Apparently Fellwalkers a...

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kenrickb wrote:
I can think of at least one category that the poll could benefit from. It's unsafe, no arrows, please.

That is intentional. If you really believe that then don't partake in melees with archery. The rules specifically give you that option.

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Some people don't mind it and even enjoy the added tension of dodging arrows as you do but could you honestly say that you would have less fun if you were involved in a spear duel on the front line and you weren't pegged by an arrow? I just don't think you would miss it all that much. Your fighting...

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In later period England at least, night soil was considered a valuable commodity. It was collected by men called "gong collectors" and was sold to farmers as fertilizer. We've since learned that human feces is not safe for that, but at the time they used it quite prevalently. This came up...

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You kick out the archers. The SCA is about inclusiveness, but it is also about sharing. Just to clarify since you gave me a period instead of an ellipsis that I agree the SCA seeks to be everything to everyone who does pre-17th century whatever it is you want to call what people do. Gun there is so...

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Do you hold a Melee field the same as a List? It doesn't matter; the rule regarding chivalrous conduct does not differentiate. But Chivalry does differentiate. That which is chivalrous in a joust of peace is much different then that which is chivalrous fighting against non-Christians which is diffe...

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In our game however the intent of our rules regarding behavior are being compromised by a gigantic loophole in the conventions of combat. Do you hold a Melee field the same as a List? As far as chivalrous behavior in combat within the confines of the SCA? Yes absolutely. So you would take a partner...

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Johno wrote:
In our game however the intent of our rules regarding behavior are being compromised by a gigantic loophole in the conventions of combat.

Do you hold a Melee field the same as a List?

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So Johno let me see if I have this right, because you think that your game is right that means that everyone who wants a slightly different game is wrong?

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I'm willing to make some nice shields and seriously hack them up as tests. Who will loan me the weapons? Or I could make some shields and send them to somebody who has lot of mid-quality repro stuff around- sharpened poleaxes, swords and spears. I'll have to see if I can dig up the articles but the...

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I'm not a wood expert but I'm going to guess it would take a whole lot of lazy sword hits to break and ash spear shaft. Same is true of shields. You may maul the edge of it or get something stuck in it but they take a licking as well.

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I use it. still have some on me right now. Last fall I was working out in the shed and cut my right thumb quite bad with some metal. I had tissue on it to put pressure to keep it from bleeding but any time I tried to remove it the blood would just start going but there was no one around to help me. ...

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Didn't they just do away with non-combat archers?

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The whole idea behind this thread was not to look at our hygiene and such but I was curious as to how a woman would have taken care of herself then. What was expected of an English Lady? Well you have two sets of sources, didactic works on how to be a lady and treatises on women's health. While the...

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A couple of things. Firstly we americans are obcessed with higene to the point that we interfere with some of our bodies natural ways of dealing with things. Secondly two things about womens hair. Firstly if you shave an area if often slowly comes in thicker and women have finer hair then men. Look ...

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I did. I'm kind of a google nut. I could only get the table of contents and a few pages from the book and couldn't tell if I wanted it. As with all books part of it is going to be what you expect to get out of it. Atleast for me google game me 27 pages of introduction. If after reading that you don...

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Domnall wrote:Get slaves, lots and lots of slaves.

If you have access to someone looking to make a little cash and you have something that they can do for like $5 an hour let them do that while you do stuff that is more difficult.

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Always google books these days. Many books are previewed some with large portions. And as a general rule Oxford press books that have not been reprinted after their original printing cost a lot, I wish they would reprint more as some of their books are seminal studies.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Oh6SVx ... navlinks_s

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Firstly, don't. Secondly there tends to be two kinds of armorers that do decently, production line armorers and high quality. If you are doing production then it is like manufacturing you have your patterns and how to adjust the size on them so that when someone orders a piece you go and grab the pa...

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Moving to an 'armor as worn' standard for archery alone plays against this existing sensibility. It would be more in keeping if we simply adopted a similar "standard" like face-only -- arbitrary and imperfect, yes; but extremely playable in its simplicity without penalty for being a novic...

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Seriously, both of you have contributed substantially to this thread. Hell, I'm still mulling over Bob's criticism of requiring face shots when it is likely the most dangerous of all archery attacks. I personally don't think there is a great risk, but for the more adament chicken littles like Johno...

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chef de chambre wrote:This is truely a pointless piece of bickering, Brent.

As is almost every post you made on this thread.

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chef de chambre wrote:
Which is more than you have done in that regard.

I have seen Fed archery in person.

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chef de chambre wrote:
Have you ever been to Europe to see archery in use?

I was a member of the White Company, and I am familiar with the WoR Federation rules, or as they were, in 1998

That would be a No.

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Chef,

Have you ever been an authorized fighter in the SCA?
Have you ever fought in an SCA melee?
Have you ever been to Europe to see archery in use?
Have you ever taken part in a re-enactment or tactical put together by one of the major medieval re-enactment groups?

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How do European reenactment groups use 35 lb bows firing unmodified rabbit blunts safely then? They do not use bargrills, nor mesh. Well since you apparently haven't read the rules of said groups or not followed this thread carefully enough. Targeting the face is explicityly forbidden in all re-ena...

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despite the "whiners"? sorry, i must have missed someone "whining" about combat archery. I'm refering to those who simply want it gone because they want it gone. Those who have no interest in creating a system that meets the needs of the SCA. I am actually amazed by the amount o...

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It should be pointed out (as it was on another thread), that the norm for reenactment archery in Europe, is rabbit blunts out of 30-35 lb drawweight bows, shooting indirect at people in open face or visored helmets, with no mesh covering, or bars over open face helmets whatsoever. Thus, it would se...

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earnest carruthers wrote:Flu flus are not used that much, arrows with large untrimmed long flights and rubber blunts, they fly better and faster, hence the 35 weight limit.

Do they typically use special rubber blunts or just off the shelf ones?

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Anyone done any sparing with these to see how hard they hit?

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I always thought Christian burial emphasized going naked before God, one needing only one's bones for the last judgement Where on earth did you get that from? While it was put a little largely there is generally a shift in burial practice not so much to nothing but towards much more minimalism. For...

Re: SCA combat archery safety Poll

Re: SCA combat archery safety Poll