The Armour Archive

Norman

The no period sports fighter is just interested in being on the field, once there some are unmotivated to upgrade. Most people that have chosen a out of time persona are doing it well. It is just inappropriate for our rules. The only thing that would stop it is true enforcement. Nu? So when someone...

Norman

What relevance does 19th century gear have to a medievalist group? One could ask what pre medieval accutrements have to do with the SCA as well. Yet we have Romans, Greeks, and other early cultures done in first person. Not as Medieval/Rennaisance classical revival. Many done very well. The answer ...

Norman

I know that in "far" Eastern Europe - kinda the Russia/Persia/Turkey continuum there were prized leathers that were one red another green (as I understand, the color was not the only distinguishing feature - they had a particular feel to them) I am fairly sure the red was done with Madder.

Norman

Bruhn Engbrecht wrote:knitebee thats makes total sence, yes it is late.. much to late for heavy fighting i understand but for rapier or somthing of that nature i dont understand how it wouldnt be respected.

My SCA fencing kit is 10th century.
What relevance does 19th century gear have to a medievalist group?

Norman

many may disagree with me.............. For me I would much preffer to see something done right past the cut off date than I would another generic SCA kit. Yesterday I saw an add for the new Star Trek movie - Kirk to Sulu "What kind of combat training you have?" Sulu respods "Fencing...

Norman

He's a Cuman hero that the King is fighting. It's the application of the battle of Kerles to a very old steppe fable. The Cuman (like the ogre/giant of the original tale) cannot be defeated by the King... So then - is the Cuman regarded as essentialy an Ogre? In Russian folklore, the Polovtsi and l...

Norman

muttman wrote:
Bernhart von Bruck wrote:However, we are the mercy of translators and that takes time.

You aren't kidding- most of what I do find online is in Russian! Makes for cool pics sometimes but even with babelfish sometimes its guesswork as to what the text is
Drefan

Just ask me

Norman

Yeah, I was thinking about that Bronx story. Let's see Thanks for the comments - some more details: I'm moving to New Jersey (East Brunswick) not Long Island Yes, in Brooklyn, I was using the public range a little but my schedule makes it a real problem. Now, I have no clue what's in my Jersey neigh...

Norman

Hmn... I scrolled around and found no archery threads. I hope there's someone here. I just got me a new house with a mucking big back yard (this coming from Brooklyn, where I've been battling over my six foot of earth with a neighbor) I think I have room in this new place to set up an archery range....

Norman

Thank you Russ So what is the context? Who is the guy in leather? Could the leather define him as some sort of uncouth rustic? (ie: an Italian statue of the young David showing a sloppily sewn leather coat clearly as an icon for his status at that time as a lowly shepheard) How general is the assump...

Norman

So I'm having some trouble with my persona/kit. I'm kind of waffling somewhere between Saxon/Dane, Rus and Varangian. 1050ish. I think I can pull that all together without any shipwrecks or being kidnapped by ninjas or what have you. Lately I have been drawn to basing myself out of Novgorod. Heres ...

Norman

Could it be you're thinking Romanian?
like Vlad Tsepesh ...I think that gives the right period
..but I think he was a nobleman hostage rather than a conscript.

Norman

Norman

There is alternative shortcuts, There is laziness/ tiredness And then there's DEADLINES I've seen a number of gorgeous period manuscript pages where on close attention we can see that certain things were still in pencil (or whatever it was they used before inking) - and some are missing pieces all t...

Norman

From what I could tell of those I've seen closeup, those conicals were done as welded cones rather than raised (see drawing),
so - all-in-all not the most difficult project until you get to the details.

Norman

Here's some Saadak references -- Turkish-made Saadak (bow and arrow cases) 1656 m compare to the Tzar's Saadak 1627 m Russian set 17th century. If you squint real hard at the arrow case, you can see the pocket for setting off special arrows http://cossackweb.narod.ru/weapons/w14.jpg These cases desc...

Norman

We are planning on hiding all of the non templar armor. :shrug: You said you wanted to document it -- so I thought the interest was to in fact wear it "as it would have been" Why would he want to be a baby-eating Crusader instead of a home-defending East European or Turk anyhow? My limite...

Norman

Got some examples of sword cases, boxes, or bow cases? In turkish or eastern flavors, of course. I may just try something out. You might want to do a google search on "gorytos" to get some inspiration in the realm of bow cases. These are older than what you are thinking of, but I believe ...

Norman

I believe that no one involved in the Middle Eastern Crusades would have used Bazubands. The earliest proto-Bazubands are to be found in the 8-10 century in the Caucas mountains and possibly the Steppes to the East. Thence they seem to have moved to Russia (Naruchi would be the right name here) with...

Norman

I was going to say -- just move to the Volga where the Bulgars and Khazars roam ...in their nice roomy Yurts But An interesting source that may put into question even the whole A frame tent thing -- According to Ibn Fadlan (who was there in 921), the Norsemen built large log houses as soon as they g...

Norman

here's some pics, the guy on the left Those folks look like they're going for some generic "Eastern Barbarian" look. Yes, very generaly speaking in Eastern Europe and Asia armoured plates reaching to the knees or lower were used. But they would need to do some work to get the armour look ...

Norman

Reminder

Norman

It's armour bend. Make armour out of it. I am working on getting together a Maille and Plates kit. Don't know exactly where I could work this in Bazubands? Absolutely not!!!! Make shoe soles, maybe bottles, pen cases... If you're working on a Ottoman Turk impression you almost certainly want NO thi...

Norman

The captions on these peices indicates they're greaves- shin armour, rather than cuisses, which normally go on the thigh. The buckle we see on the bottom might attach to a sabaton. Of course the museum might be loose with its terminology and have the piece upside down... This is a labeling/ transla...

Norman

Why are so many folks using flickr!?! My office blocks flickr Armourkris, you got more info than the folks at the Royal Armouries All the cuises of that type I saw just had the holes. When I chatted with the folks at the Royal Armouries waaaay back in ...oh, the year they were packing for Leeds, th...

Norman

Roland Ansbacher wrote:Heck, I know a few people trying to make full leather helms for cut-and-thrust...

Is there a problem with it for cut-n-thrust??
I was planning to do just that.

Norman

I guess it'd be safe to go for the Turkic feel then? I want to make a similar persona and have heritage from both slavic and turkic ethnicities. I'm not sure I am clear on your question or the parameter of your interests. Do you mean Turkish? or "turkic"? Turks from Turkey are a particula...

Norman

The wife and I tried this first, the problems we faced was an issue with the small semi-circular lame at the top (in the middle) it's not actaully a lame it's a solid piece rivited directly to the chestplate, which make the whole deal look very odd. No prob. Attach the cloth to the undished part of...

Norman

thanks for the advise, I remember reading somehwere (for the lif I can't remeber where) But horsemen wearing this type of armor wore the lames facing upwards, footmen wore them facing downwards. I think it may have something to do with the way most attack came at you. That is a belief by modern ree...

Norman

In the two historical cases where I've noticed button type fasteners (Japanese and Chinese) I belive that toggle buttons were always used. These sorts of things: https://www.fidelitysportswear.biz/Images%5Cjutetoga.jpg Don't know if that's relevant to you. You could probably get 'em in brass ...mayb...

Norman

That is a fencing chest protector.
It is meant to provide a little extra toughness in a situation where many women choose to just run a few layers of cloth instead.

Not at all intended for anything like what you are planning for it.
I would not do it if I were you (or her)

Norman

Oh!
Personna wise --
Your best choices would be --
Certainly "late period"
and (depending on where you fall on the East European ethno political conflics):
Lithuanian
Polish
Ukranian/SouthWest-Russian (not sure that they were quite Ukranian yet at that time)
Hungarian
Rumanian

Norman

This is polish Hussar Armour: ...As you can see the lames are overlapped up and they are not articulated, they are riveted together to make a solid breastplate. ...This is Anime armour: ...Once again lame going up and riveted together to make a solid breastplate. It is not articulated. While I am n...

Norman

Russ

Norman

Can't quite decide if I'm hijacking the thread here. but While most Cossacks historicaly had lots of facial hair (full beards mostly actualy) Here is a sample of clean faced Cossacks. Except the Angus McBride illustration, these are honest to goodness Cossacks: Now [img]http://www.feo-kozak.com.ua/i...

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