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Norman

I currently have the Cast Iron Anvil-thing from Harborfreight and their High Carbon version with hardened face. Now, both of these are shaped pretty much the same, with a wacky looking flattened horn. I was figuring, keep one the same shape and grind the other one into a smoother, rounder, pointier ...

Norman

Please elaborate. Where do I find a description of this???? ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors The...

Norman

The immediate, easily accessible image that comes to mind is a Russian shirt of scale (I believe from Novgorod) shown in Osprey's "Armies of Russia" title by Nicolle (see the Book Recomendations page at my Armour History site for details). The plates are very basic rectangles with 6 holes a piece. M...

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Thank you Steve! ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors The Red Kaganate - http://www.geocities.com/ka...

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Jurchen are a tribe that started the Liao dynasty in china. Central asia was left to Chagatai & his descendants and is thus referred to as the Chagataid khanate. I don't have and written sources from that area so I can't tell you much about them. My bad. I thought I'd get that precisely backwards. ...

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http://www.geocities.com/kaganate/howlamlr.html ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors The Red Kagana...

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Im supprised you think it would not work, i cant imagine any other way to lace the Birka plates from our last order, there was no center hole so every one basicly had to attatch their plates in a similar manner, ive not heard of any complaints as to the effectiveness of the birka plates SHRUG, my p...

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<I>Norman i dont believe Bob or I was referring to coolus and montefortino helms ... Im comparing shapes the gallic and itallic helms im confident were more expencive to make, required more skilled labor etc, so in a poorer less organized late empire hte sassinad becomes the logical replacement</I> ...

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Look at the Resource Links section at The Red Kaganate (URL below) -- there's obviously a focus on Yurts. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors...

Norman

this pattern can still be laced to each other with out a center hole, the overlap ends up being about 1/2 in, very similar to the birka lamellar with out the center hole True, but I'd suspect (not having done so myself) that you'd be left with pretty much no flex -- defeating most of the purpose of...

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...I used to know an SCA member and caterer who lived on Long Island. Should I keep an eye/ear out for him? The one SCA Wedding I went to was actually the same as any other event -- except with the focus being the bride and groom. Instead of court, we had a well-wishing ceremony. SO, I'd say just as...

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I am having a bit of a time understanding how the overlap ging up iss supposed to go. (ie how does one lace the birka pattern, I'm only familiar with the 7 hole plate, what do you do with the other holes? With the Birka pattern with All the holes in place (ie with that centered hole we left out) ba...

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WMA, i believe the tail is easier to make than the fixed tail of the earlier galic helms, forming a small removable tail is much more simple task than forming the large attatched tail of the galic helms. are you taking into consideration that the Coolus and Montefore helmets were Spun? The flared ba...

Norman

Just put a Center hole in, and I'll be all the way behind that last pic JT posted. I do agree with WMA, just offcenter the cut-in a little upwards so that when overlapped you still get that "B" look. Though, without the center hole, you do the leather belts attachment and get a nice "B" shape withou...

Norman

I think... Late 13th cent -- That would be after the big invasions when you already have the division into ...I think four Empires: Golden Horde in Eastern Europe and North-West Asia, Ilkhanid in Southern West Asia and Middle East, Jurchen (I think) in Central Asia, ...and whatever the Eastern Empir...

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Do you mean a regular wedding or a medieval one? And what do you mean by "resources"? If you're talking regular -- I'd think its a local type of thing -- go through a phonebook and ask your local friends who've done it. I got married in "the Atrium" on route 59 in Monsey New York. My sister got marr...

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Is that the one by Kevin Brook? I haven't read it. Basing myself on his Web Site (which may arguably be the wrong thing to do), I think he is great at collecting info but not good at interpreting it. ...so it should be read the way you would an Osprey title - but more so. ...you can take a look at a...

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Go through the Osprey books. You've got like four or five titles that apply. Maybe a few more than that. Don't look at the fancy modern pics -- look at the photos from medieval sources (and the archaeologists' line drawings). Also, in addition to stuff that was dug up, alot of manuscript images. ---...

Norman

The bowl height looks just right. Excelent work. Maybe it's the angle, but the cheeks seem a little off from what I'm used to. A little disagreement with chef: Definitely not my main area of study, but from reading it is cheaper and easier to manufacture, but a concious imitation of the older form o...

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Rev G. You forgot to make a copy of your last two designs for me. On the following set -- http://www.arches.uga.edu/~cavender/armour/lammelar.jpg Are the images proportioned? They don't look right. Compare to the photos here http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/page6.html#lam The following is the set of...

Norman

Use a light hammer (1 lb) all the way through. Make sure you're hammering evenly (ie: if all your stretch is from the central inch or so, you'll be paper thin at that point and 12 guage right next to it. Alternate between dishing and planishing (or raising, or whatever else you want to call hammerin...

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Rev, I'm just getting a red X (ie it doesn't load the image) on your pic. ...easyspace is firewalled here (yes, I know Archive is hosted by easyspace - but the address does not say easyspace) Can this be got around somehow?? ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://...

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I think the following helmet is made of riveted parts (a Spangenhelm construction, if you will): http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/hagadah2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/hagadah2.jpg But there was a substantial debate about it when I first posted it. The manuscript is Judeo-German circa 1450ie...

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Sarnac, First off, Congradulations!!! Second, http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif You should secede your Khanate from the SCA and bring it whole into the Red Kaganate -- then you can be a proper Khan and not leave your kingship in 6 moths. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Now th...

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BTW, If you're not doing a Fanasy thing but rather a period piece along the lines of the materials here: http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/page3.html There's alot between the actual Bosom and the piece of metal. These things are not supposed to be form fitting. Don't worry too much that it is a "D-cu...

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I think the Kirch stuff may have been reevaluated At the very least, there's that "Baba" of the guy in vest with central reinforce with pteruges at shoulder and skirts and some sort of armoured or quilted collar. Robinson says 6th century. All the new stuff says 12th or so. Also, there is a whole ba...

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Both pics (the one with a centered hole - it's pretty much identical to the Tibetan ones on up to 19th cent. --and the one without - I'm guessing it had not been cleaned out at the time - the later dated of the two articles has the hole) are from publications by Thordeman. One would be his famous bo...

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Just to be different -- Check out the article "14th Century Armour from Tana" at he below link. The article posits that it was Italian. It came with a limb defense of splints with a veeeeery different elbow coup. http://www.geocities.com/kaganate/armour.html ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn...

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WMA, Thank you very much. That bit of detail has been driving me crazy for a long while. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geo...

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Dmitry, Didn't you have a suit of the stuff?? (in leather) I thought someone ...was it Sabrael? took a photo from you and webbed it. Is sabrael's site still up? As for period sources, from unaided memory, - a statue photographed in a couple of Nicolle's books for Osprey ...pretty sure "Attila and th...

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I thought Coopergate is mid 700's. -- but same thing applies -- aint no 14th cent German goona have an 8th century helmet. On the general issue of helmets constructed via the use of segments (spangenhelms) -- I did see a 15th century German manuscript which shows what I think is a Bascinet with the ...

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Okay, If folks are interested to do it at my place, like I said, I need to know what's expected of the host and we need to figure out aproximate dates. ToolGoon, As it happens, I am in desperate need of a 'prentice. Have work, need time. It would be a nights and Sundays sort of thing. If you're inte...

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http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Love it! Will be finding a place for it on The Red Kaganate somewhere. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewi...

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I got AEMMA, HACA and AGFI (I think that's the right acronym) listed in the Resource Links section of the Red Kaganate (under "Martial Arts"). ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.e...

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Elbows, Knees -- Ever see one of them "Jesus Fish" It's basically like that. Pound into it with a hammmer to dish the middle and curve the sides. Scale shirt -- you should be able to figure out what the actual garment looks like from the photos and drawings at the Scale page on my Armour History sit...

Adapting an Anvil horn - Opinions please