The Armour Archive

Norman

The oval is very old style model -- so the grips are like conservative too. I'm surprised it's in there. Youve got a good eye. It may even be the single bar centergrip like the Viking rounds and earlier Roman and Celtic shields. But, about centergripping -- if you keep looking, there are inside draw...

Norman

For kite shields look at the Bayeux tapestry carefully -- there's quite a few shown from the inside. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - ht...

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shreiber [img]http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/confused.gif[/img] Where I am, there do not seem to be any prior restrictions on parry items -- long as it doesn't freak the marshals checking your gear - then you're fine. The severed arm would be very much like the legendary fish wouldn't it? --------...

Norman

Maybe you got better photos then I. You wanna e-mail them to me? I never seen the back. I assumed maile mainly in response to that centered plate - figuring that the rings were painted on and simply washed away with time. The things under the Pteruges look like short sleeves to me -- and all the art...

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Aaron, I think you got the wrong armoury - The Henry VIII metal shorts suit is at the Royal armouries. David Edge is at the Wallace. (unless I got it all backwards) ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs ...

Norman

Aegiswolf, Not Maile -- Lamellar Very different - go read! Lamellar is quite good for SCA heavy wear. Matt - Ah well, there ya go! We're both working - so I get to stay up till 3 AM, she gets after 3 AM. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Ath...

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Hob - I wish we could make open handed contact to the sword arm. As someone who's done other martial arts, I have an ingrained habit of blocking at the wrist. The idea that I should be parrying the blade with my off-hand rather than a nice safe wrist is ridiculous. Agreed. Now -- how to phrase the r...

Norman

Wadda you mean in the woods at night?

One duels at mid day in the middle of town --
then part of the fun is taking on the unit of guard when they come to arrest you

Norman

Aegiswolf, One word -- Lamellar. Head to toe (well, excluding the helmet http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Go to The Red Kaganate for full instructions. Matt, Brodir -- What the hell?? My kid's a year and a half. I have stayed up almost every night because he doesn't accept the concept of s...

Norman

Go to the "Red Kaganate" (URL in my sig) follow links to "Armour", look at the articles there. At least two of them will be what you want. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enter...

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As shown on one of hte little bronze statuettes... very clearly a breast and back, with side shoulder straps. Little bronze statues? You don't mean the big stone "Babas" instead do you? The one that came to mind is the guy with Roman-looking pteruges at the shoulder and waist and a sort-of brasier-...

Norman

I don't know -- I think as explained, by "a outrance" they simply mean with grapling and so forth. Theoretically, it is doable. And anyhow, AEMMA is in Canada, where they have a civilized medical system -- so they, unlike ourselves, don't have to worry about mortgaging their lives away to treat a br...

Norman

Kevin, At least round here (East), draw cuts (including push and pull) and tip cuts are fully legal and expected in "rapier". The only cut not allowed is the "saber type" "slash". I have really not seen any problems with this standard. Are you saying your kingdom does not allow ANY cuts?? As for peo...

Norman

Applicable to any "Fencing" with metal weapons (shlagger, epee, etc.) and SCA or any other set of "historical fencing" rules. Here's you chance -- Complain about any rules you dislike. Rave about any you like. Mention rules you think should be put in place. Etc. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelsh...

Norman

At Ren faire demos quite commonly the shirt comes off. Real hot you know. BUt not around powertools -- with all that bodyhair, the sparks will just love it! ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury ...

Norman

When in doubt, go with 1/16". I have no idea which system we're supposedly using, but at least one SCA document mentions "true" 16 guage as being 1/16". ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - ht...

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This is halfway a guess, but it looked to me like many of the Turkish pieces were done by first welding a cone to a brow-band and then dishing the cone. This is vaguely what I mean on the initial shape: <pre> /\ / \ / \ /______\ |________| </pre> ...this is partially based on the fact that many Turk...

Norman

Russ - What do you mean by Cuman style breast and back? Please tell me more. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/j...

Norman

I was trying to figure out how one could cast rattan.

Norman

That's a really cool suit! I never seen it before. Funny, when I was aprentice at Marcan Armoury, we once did a Sabaton fix like the one on that suit to cover gapping between greave and sabaton that the customer bought from some inferior armoury. I kept trying to convince the customer to let me engr...

Norman

Kevin, Which ones are you talking about? The page does not make clear which are the red and which the black. ...and if their measurements are for diameter of the point -- they both seem illegal for East -- The east requires 1/2" They offer one that is 5/16 (1/2 is 8/16) the other 11/32 (1/2 would be...

Norman

The question here asked is a spinoff of the discussion here: http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000494.html The question is this -- I used to have my Shlagger tipped with a rubber epee tip. When we started doing shlagger in the east, this was sufficient. Today, the rules state "...blunt st...

Norman

Tip cuts are not required to be acknowledged here, so it doesn't matter what it feels like. Yeah, but the Shlagger was DESIGNED for tip cuts! Its whole raison-d-etre is tip cuts! IMHO - it's a crime against nature to render the weapon ineffective for tip-cuts!!! (and the east technically allows tip...

Norman

If it's the Celtic guys at the top of the page, far as I know - those shields have no strapping -- just an inline bar handle like the ROman shields. (I think the ROman shields were modeled on those) ...I don't think I've seen reconstructions with guiges like Owen mentions for the Roman shields thoug...

Norman

Thanks guys. Having briefly looked at the West's rules, I'd guess at two possible complaints -- 1) No Melees That really sucks! Melees are great fun! 2) No epee No problem by me, but I'd imagine some folks may want the option. Course, here in the East I have the opposite complaint -- standard weapon...

Norman

Per title -- What SCA kingdoms have the Shlagger as the only or main or default fencing weapon? Do they have rules online? Please give me the URL. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://w...

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I got a firewall blocking your site.

You wanna put the pic somewhere else?

Norman

Garridan, Kabuto just means helmet. I went and looked it up at my own site http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif I'm talking this one: http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/hlm-jap2.gif Unfortunately I didn't actually write in the name of the helmet. I believe it is Zunari Kabuto ...or Zunari-bachi....

Norman

Urm, Magmaforge -- Where you gonna hide armour under a short skirt? "No shirt, No shoes -> Egyptian military" ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warr...

Norman

Here's a lovely picture of a helmet with a "flip up" visor -- but its not a spangen helm. http://www.geocities.com/kaganate/armour.html A 'spangen' helm is a helmet with the bowl made of several pieces. Some distinguish a 'spangen' and a 'ridge' helm -- in which case a 'ridge' helm has a strap going...

Norman

Vermin, IMHO, people are not on your case because you dislike Lanyards. They are on your case because you seem to say that people who are not involved in your game are responsible for being safe from you while you are playing your game. I would think you may have noted that I, for one, have proposed...

Norman

I ...believe, when the East Kingdom started allowing thrusts (or is it thrusts to the face), they started requiring an Aventail OVER the Gorget. Whether the rule exists or not IMHO this seems to me like a very good idea. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www....

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Get Free Web Space. A Geocities site is quite easy to set up. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors T...

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I don't remember the page numbers (th book is at home) I'm thinking you're talking about one of those proto-barrel helmets. If this is the case, there's like two or three photos of a brass something (a door maybe) with a bunch of folks in camp, then the same folks either attacking people or being at...

Norman

Matthew, That's beautiful!!! One question though -- the overlap seems backwards as compared to the usual art representation. What is your reasoning on that? ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury ...

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