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by Norman
Thu May 31, 2001 10:27 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Roman-ish stuff
Replies: 13
Views: 12

The styles you want for LATE Roman is NOT the Classic Roman helmet. You want the so-called Romano-Sassanid pattern helmets. While my site doesn't really concern Roman stuff, the page linked below has a paragraph or so describing some of the contrast - http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/page13e.html Th...
by Norman
Wed May 30, 2001 12:17 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Ideas on what we do and why
Replies: 21
Views: 9

What Brodir said -- Everything that happens on the SCA combat field makes odles more sense if you think of it as a Combat Game -- call it a tournament or call it whatever you want. We all get together at big events where we hang out with our friends, then at some point everyone chooses up teams, agr...
by Norman
Wed May 30, 2001 12:07 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Which is the more "TRUE" knighting ceremony?
Replies: 6
Views: 26

As with all questions here -- give specific time period and location. What does "knight" mean to you? ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - h...
by Norman
Fri May 25, 2001 10:08 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: eye slot protection
Replies: 6
Views: 19

I haven't fought steel too much but - expressing my concern -- Having the pierced sheet welded inside could leave one with the same concern as the SCA had about welding the Bar grill on the inside -- a strong impact could (theoretically) break a weld and send the visor at your face. Part of whether ...
by Norman
Fri May 25, 2001 9:55 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Finally finished
Replies: 6
Views: 9

Congradulations on the completion! Just one note -- I'm guessing you're actually talking a JAPANESE pattern NOT an Oriental one. (I am assuming you're talking 6 in 1 triangle pattern rather than a "doubled" 4 in 1 pattern) ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://ww...
by Norman
Fri May 25, 2001 9:07 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mithril
Replies: 10
Views: 18

Swords for dealing with Vampires and Shapeshifters !!! (am I the only idiot who reads the Anita Blake books ?? http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif ) ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury -...
by Norman
Thu May 24, 2001 10:51 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Leather armour (13-14 century Italian) - anyone has a pictur
Replies: 5
Views: 27

Sasa, Did you get my recent e-mail? Awaiting reply. (lost your address - and a few other comments) Based on what you just said, I've asked Amazon to look for a copy of AAMK and made a pre-order on it. If you don't want one, let me know so I can cancel. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armou...
by Norman
Tue May 22, 2001 4:54 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Banded maille
Replies: 9
Views: 11

"Banded" Lamellar aside. The answer to the original "Banded Maile" question depends heavily on what you define as "Banded Maile". Armour of Bands is not relevant to the discussion -- as this has nothing to do with maile. If you define it as leather laces running through normal maile -- there's plent...
by Norman
Tue May 22, 2001 1:15 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Helm Question
Replies: 3
Views: 7

Chris, I don't know what you got as a "Klibanion", but if it is a Lamellar Vest, you've got far more choices than 950 Greek. Take a look at my article on Lamellar history at "Armour of the Silk Road" (URL at my signature below) ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http...
by Norman
Tue May 22, 2001 9:48 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Saracen Costume
Replies: 27
Views: 466

Lr of E - The really noticeable one is regarding the maile laced through with leather thongs -- the artist shows the lace going through perpendicular to the way it should be going. I s'pose it's not really a big deal -- but if a reenactor did up his shirt like that - he'd just look silly. I also sus...
by Norman
Mon May 21, 2001 4:49 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Saracen Costume
Replies: 27
Views: 466

T. Bob -- Thank you - Seeing the current political situation, that was a horrible mistake on my part. My apologies to all!!! Just goes to illustrate the complex ethnic situation of the Middle East at the time. He was in power in the Seljuk line though -- was he not ?? ------------------ Norman J. Fi...
by Norman
Mon May 21, 2001 4:23 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Saracen Costume
Replies: 27
Views: 466

Just to add to the mess -- Saladin WAS a Turk - though ruling in the Middle East. I don't know how he personally dressed. The Seljuk Turks invaded the Middle East sometime before the Crusades. The whole reason for the Crusades was because the king of Eastern Rome was afraid of Turkish power (the Cru...
by Norman
Mon May 21, 2001 11:34 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Saracen Costume
Replies: 27
Views: 466

Machiavelli, Visit the Red Kaganate (URL at my sig below). At present, we have patterns for two coats and a pair of pants that may be of interest to you. NOTE: If you are thinking of a non-European personna, you will need to develop your perception of what and who you are looking to do. As I underst...
by Norman
Fri May 18, 2001 1:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Dark Ages?
Replies: 6
Views: 15

Klangiron, your description sounds to me like it would be a fake brigandine (or Coat of Plates) (ie: they put the rivets on it but didn't put the plates underneath). Brigandine (or Coat of Plates) would not be period for Europe in the Migration Era (or Dark Ages). The dating I have for Brigandine (o...
by Norman
Thu May 17, 2001 5:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Peasant vs. Knight on foot? Ideas?
Replies: 31
Views: 260

Okay Theodore -- A combination of too much and at the same time not enough info. This was my understanding in using the term "heathen knight" -- Knight=Equis=Faris=Samurai=Ksatriya=Boghatur=Djigit=Bogatir= "military elite" The term as I used it was not dependant on a Western-Europe-specific socio-cu...
by Norman
Thu May 17, 2001 11:02 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Peasant vs. Knight on foot? Ideas?
Replies: 31
Views: 260

Lord Theodore - "Early period barbarians" had a Military aristocracy. That would be pretty much equivalent to "knights". You certainly can not equate the military of the Huns, Avars, Lombards to peasantry !!! ...they even had these funky belts that had metal bits attached, the number and elaboratene...
by Norman
Wed May 16, 2001 11:22 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Period arms/legs for 'Wisby' style coat of plate?
Replies: 7
Views: 9

Go to "The Red Kaganate" (URL at my sig) armour section for one answer. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewish...
by Norman
Tue May 15, 2001 4:38 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Peasant vs. Knight on foot? Ideas?
Replies: 31
Views: 260

Tuchux is not peasants -- They are unarmoured knights (heathen knights but certainly military nobility). Knight vs Peasant -- Peasant wins with a Bow, else - creamed peasant. Armoured Knight with sword vs. unarmoured Knight with a knife -- it is likely that the one with the sword would win. Remember...
by Norman
Tue May 15, 2001 3:21 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Period Means of Transporting Armor?
Replies: 14
Views: 27

This is a little early for you - but may still be of use - Read Chretien de Troyes "Percival - Knight of the Grail" There's a part where Gawain comes to this castle and hangs out with his stuff prior to participating in the tournament. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Roa...
by Norman
Tue May 15, 2001 3:16 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Polish Saber Combat
Replies: 1
Views: 10

Polish Saber Combat

No, this is not a tasteless ethnic joke. Check the Weapons area of "The Red Kaganate" (URL at sig below) for details. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jew...
by Norman
Mon May 14, 2001 2:04 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Thread on the Chainmaille Board
Replies: 14
Views: 11

In the Kremlin armoury (Moscow) there are reputedly shirts of maile closed in Five different methods - including butted. (I believe they are all 15th cent and later and in good shape). Japanese "foreigner" maile (normal 4 in 1) was (as far as I know) ALLWAYS butted - it was made in small links, of a...
by Norman
Fri May 11, 2001 11:46 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Doing Combat with Museum replicas "Theatrical Combat" sword
Replies: 1
Views: 11

Doing Combat with Museum replicas "Theatrical Combat" sword

Here's a pic http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront/3afc 18970043b2942751d8f5a50606b8/Product/View/1379 Here's an overview of what's offered: http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront/3afc18970 043b2942751d8f5a50606b8/Catalog/1027 Seems like a possible alternat...
by Norman
Thu May 10, 2001 4:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Making panels for a spangenhelm
Replies: 10
Views: 20

You make the frame first and then template the panels from the frame. ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - http://www.enteract.com/~silkroad Jewish Warriors - http://www.geocities.com/jewishwa...
by Norman
Wed May 09, 2001 11:09 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Period Name???
Replies: 18
Views: 17

<I>I am new to all this SCA type stuff and am looking for a name. I have a few friends that are drawing me in, (looks like a blast). Any help on finding a name would be appreciaited. I have Irish/Scottish heritage, but am not really locking myself in that direction.</I> Robert, Samuel, John, Steven,...
by Norman
Wed May 02, 2001 2:11 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How to make an SCA legal roman helm?
Replies: 6
Views: 10

Hmn, Maybe I shouldn't start on this fight again... but... If you want a <u>Medieval</u> Roman helmet (ie; if you find it important and relevant to fit the stated objectives of the SCA) you really should go with one of the Romano-Sassanian style designs. Something like this: (put a question mark at ...
by Norman
Wed May 02, 2001 2:02 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: This ebay thing has gone TOO far!
Replies: 18
Views: 17

That would be Attila Jankovski out of Jersey City. He got it out of the Ignoble Collection Catalogue.
by Norman
Tue May 01, 2001 4:33 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: This ebay thing has gone TOO far!
Replies: 18
Views: 17

I think it's neat in a Mean and Bizzare sort of way.
by Norman
Tue May 01, 2001 1:03 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Polish Heraldry !
Replies: 11
Views: 17

Otto, I stand corrected -- then just reword my complaint to be even more encompassing. As with most other SCA problems, the Heraldry thing is due to the fact that when the SCA was getting started there was little research around. I put it to you that it is our duty as "educational organisation" peop...
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 4:29 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: "How To's" on Lamellar and Leather-Hardening
Replies: 22
Views: 24

T. Bob -- near as I can see, this armour is about the same as the Tibetan lamellar that's held by the Royal armouries. (the one in the pic is in Warsaw) ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Designs Armoury - ht...
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 4:26 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: OH REALLY LIKELY!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 15

Tubal -
Nu?
Are you saying there was no armour in Rome in the middle ages??
He said it's made by "Martespa - By the Sword, Inc" and retails for whatever-it-was on their site.
Are you saying its not rare?
I wonder how many of those there are around?
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 4:22 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Hidden Leg Armor
Replies: 11
Views: 35

Okay, you're doing good. Figure influences and similarities with Byzantine, Caucas, Russian, and the Mongols. So First - some web illustrations, then my comment on what I saw in my home stuff - Pictures: Here's a Russian archer in Turk style armour circa 1230 http://www.warclub.enjoy.ru/gallery/sold...
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 3:58 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: OH REALLY LIKELY!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 15

What's the problem?

Look at the description.
He is not making any sort of wild claims --
it is a decorative modern reproduction of a generic medieval Italian closehelm.
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 3:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: "How To's" on Lamellar and Leather-Hardening
Replies: 22
Views: 24

Thank you Bjorn.
Maybe there's a tag I forgot to close...

I guess I'll have to comb through the code.

Glad to of finally contributed Galon.

[This message has been edited by Norman (edited 04-30-2001).]
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 3:35 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Period Duct Tape
Replies: 9
Views: 43

bump
by Norman
Mon Apr 30, 2001 3:25 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Rethinking historical accuracy in the SCA(a fresh look at Pi
Replies: 17
Views: 19

Here you go -- a whole batch of Personae in a Box in progress: http://www.geocities.com/kaganate http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif All's I need is more input! ------------------ Norman J. Finkelshteyn Armour of the Silk Road - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505 The Silk Road Des...