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by Norman
Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:30 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

It is allowed to give a man two cups of root-tea for jaundice providing he was already impotent . But even this is prohibited! This is ludicrous. Note how in the same quote it says - "this is allowed" but then "even this is prohibited"? And a few sentences before, there is anoth...
by Norman
Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:23 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

Reread the argument about curing jaundice being a bad thing because it is "deliberately" making someone a eunuch. In the words of Indigo Montoya "I don't think it means what you think it means" This is the problem with quoting decontexted Talmudic discussion. All sorts of people...
by Norman
Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:20 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

Karen, Thank you tremendously for your research Heh I guess I should have started in the logical place to start on this issue - ask a rabbi ...now I'll have to find one who'll humour my inquiries Your title specified Early Medieval Rome, which would be Western Europe. Byzantium would be the title of...
by Norman
Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:32 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

Yes chef, I am familiar with everything you advise about (I'm stuck with a prohibition against having fish and meat in the same course of a meal because Maimonades thought it would be a bad idea based on that whole humours theory) However - there are degrees of medicialness, The drink Karen found ci...
by Norman
Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:28 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

Jewish legal discussions cite to the Talmud in discussions pertaining to the brewing of tea. ... Anyone have any more on this? Yep. This is (probably) not the tea you are looking for. [...google books talmudic quote on medicinal mixture...] Nope. I'm talking about a drink of leaves steeped in water...
by Norman
Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:44 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??
Replies: 22
Views: 312

Tea in classical and early medieval Rome and/or Persia ??

The recent coffee discussions got me thinking -- Jewish legal discussions cite to the Talmud in discussions pertaining to the brewing of tea. Unfortunately, I have yet to see the specific text but it seems that the Talmud talks about a drink made by pouring hot water onto leaves -- and the said disc...
by Norman
Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:51 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: How would you make SCA armour based on these artworks?
Replies: 16
Views: 665

Image
Genesis 6:4 :wink:
by Norman
Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:48 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Center grip kite shields "how are they mounted?"
Replies: 17
Views: 493

The Bayeux Tapestry does show kites with center bosses but that in no way means they were center gripped . In a number of cases, the picture shows the inside with the double-strap center grip attachment I described above. Again, there are much more "realistic" illustrations (one particula...
by Norman
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:51 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sticking on the Nickels - Backstory?
Replies: 16
Views: 674

As hot as she is, I gotta say -- that armour always made me gag. Now *this* is how you do Japanese chicks in armour: Miss Japan, Kurara Chibana. Right spot on. I prefer Lucy's but I wasn't looking for anything "authentic" -- I like the contrast between the brass, red, black, flesh Plus, w...
by Norman
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:44 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Mongolian translation help for scroll
Replies: 3
Views: 88

I was just about to recomend Puppy as well.

(what is that called? - he Ninja'd me?)

He is Khan of the Silver Horde (SCA household)
by Norman
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:39 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: New Book found from 1457
Replies: 35
Views: 626

I'm with chef on this. The book sounds interesting and probably gives some great information, but as an unlocking of some shoking newness about the role of women? Doesn't Chaucer's (or maybe it was Boccaccio's) forward talk about his being a book to amuse women? And there are some wonderful stories,...
by Norman
Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sticking on the Nickels - Backstory?
Replies: 16
Views: 674

I liked her scale armour
...but can't find any photos online :cry:

-- maybe I was the only one - and that's why I can't find it online -- it's the only costume she had which was essentialy a full dress
(and the only essentialy "real" armour)
by Norman
Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:38 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Iron Swords and Ceramic Bombs?
Replies: 79
Views: 1282

That's a great photo of the Yaroslav helmet! Thanks for the find. The hat of Monomah is here m the cross and fur were added at sometime after the 1517-1526 (when a German diplomat described seeing it) also - there had at the time been dangling golden medalions which "moved about like snakes&quo...
by Norman
Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:02 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Iron Swords and Ceramic Bombs?
Replies: 79
Views: 1282

Y'all just had to bring this back right? but it was not the human populations at all that was compared, that was a deliberate misquote, the structure of the Mongol Empire was called parasitic, ie it rode on the backs of the ruled. Every ruling despot (or despotic class) can be described in that mann...
by Norman
Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:34 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Center grip kite shields "how are they mounted?"
Replies: 17
Views: 493

The Bayeux Tapestry has a number of illustrations of the inside of teardrop shields (same as kite right?). Centergrips are quite common and appear both vertical and horizontal. The best illustration of the inside of a centergripped teardrop shield that I saw was an initial letter (I think 12 cent) s...
by Norman
Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:53 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: some awesome galleries
Replies: 5
Views: 428

Diorama of Kiev in the Kievan Rus period (roughly 10-13 cent) AWESOME. I have a friend who chose to punish himself by adopting a Kipchak SCA persona, and he's putting armor together. Wants my help with the hat. I ran into a picture of a similar looking helmet face on your site, actually. I assume t...
by Norman
Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:59 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: some awesome galleries
Replies: 5
Views: 428

I've been plowing through here for the last few hours. it's all in Russian Worse -- that's Ukranian Whatever Діорама Києва часів Київської ...
by Norman
Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:00 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: 11th-12thC widebrimmed hat? (esp Byzantium & neighbors)
Replies: 51
Views: 1194

anyone have a picture of one of these? Sun hats: Among archaeological finds is a round summer hat plaited from pine roots with a flat crown and rather large brim from Novgorod, reminiscent of the later Ukrainian bril’ [бриль], or stylish at the beginning of our centu...
by Norman
Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:06 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

Great! So I can use Bazubands with my Madu! As you ride into Pennsic woods battle on your Viking War Elephant Oh be serious. No way an elephant is going to survive a Norse winter! As a matter of actual fact, Charlemagne had an elephant at court, it was given to him as a gift by the ruler of Persia ...
by Norman
Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:56 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Leather vs. Metal vs. Plastic for Heavy List
Replies: 20
Views: 838

I haven't fought SCA rattan in like over 10 years and even then I always prefered steel weapons so take anything I got to say in that vein. I was raised as a steel armourer so the idea of using anything else never entered my mind. But when I started in my lovely Turkish suit I got lots of suggestion...
by Norman
Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:18 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Leather vs. Metal vs. Plastic for Heavy List
Replies: 20
Views: 838

I see no problem with a plastic CoP, as long as it is covered, nor a plastic corenza (sp?) as long as it is covered. It's spelled Credenza and wood would be much nicer than plastic ...a nice cherry with brass handles. Probably not too comfortible to fight in though ...maybe a castle siege defense s...
by Norman
Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:42 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

Sigifrith Hauknefr wrote:Great! So I can use Bazubands with my Madu!

As you ride into Pennsic woods battle on your Viking War Elephant :twisted:
by Norman
Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

PS - quilted mittens were definitely used as a hand armour by the Russians as are hard (leather and brocade) back of the hand protections in the shape of mittens (attached to Naruchi/ Bazubands) in later periods both as Russian and "Oriental" armour OOHH that sounds very promising.... any...
by Norman
Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:36 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Plaque Belts
Replies: 97
Views: 8389

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I think this last is "Oriental" probably Mamluke
Compare: http://www.geocities.com/normanjfin/bel ... yrblt.html
by Norman
Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:38 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

http://horvathdp.googlepages.com/CLOTHING.pdf This might help you a bit. There are four mittens shown at page 10 of the article. PS - quilted mittens were definitely used as a hand armour by the Russians as are hard (leather and brocade) back of the hand protections in the shape of mittens (attache...
by Norman
Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:59 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Check out these helms
Replies: 28
Views: 1321

Voila!
Try here --
http://alternathistory.livejournal.com/41495.html
At the bottom there is a link to a PDF file that seems to be the book
I'm not sure since my company firewalled the link
by Norman
Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:53 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Check out these helms
Replies: 28
Views: 1321

they're from : Michail Gorelik "Armii Mongolo-Tatar X-XIV " ... in Russian only Pictures have no language. How picture heavy is it? It might be worth looking into for me anyhow. Well... You do need to know what a line drawing or painting is based on or what it is supposed to represent -- ...
by Norman
Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:22 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need info on some gauntlets.
Replies: 22
Views: 754

Its kinda weird if the gauntlets don't even fit the guy who took the photo for the site.
by Norman
Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:14 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

What you have posted, however, is very (VERY) similar to mittens seen in 14th & 15th century Netherlandish art, usually on the hands of shepards, in pictures of the Adoration. I would therfore suspect such mittens are a long-standing, contnuous tradition in Northern Europe. No indication of any...
by Norman
Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:48 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

Dang. I was complementing you man.

Both Torum and I will benefit if you constructively criticise the one answer I had available for him
even if you do choose to rip me a new one while you are at it (which you have done every time).

This time you are not being constructive though :cry:
by Norman
Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:30 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

This has been sitting unanswered for so long. Maybe if I pipe up people will yell at me and a conversation will start. You Suck! did that help any? Na You gotta learn from Chef. I need an extensive paragraph with citations and references proving that I suck with respect to the conversation at hand.
by Norman
Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:26 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: dang it, need link for russian patterns
Replies: 11
Views: 501

I'm guessing that since he's published a book, he'd rather you bought it than swiped patterns for free
http://helmschmiedt.narod.ru/book.html

Um ...just realised this conversation is from 2005 :oops:
by Norman
Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:21 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Nice looking back of elbow protection for metal bazuband?
Replies: 5
Views: 377

I have a small leather lame loose riveted much like you would rivet the steel lames at the top and bottom of an elbow coup.
Here is another option based on 16th century Mogul art.
[img]http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/r-brace.gif[/img]
by Norman
Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:33 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Gloves in Vendel / Viking Period
Replies: 51
Views: 1345

This has been sitting unanswered for so long. Maybe if I pipe up people will yell at me and a conversation will start. Firstly I believe by common definition Vendel is not the same as Viking -- Vendel is 5 to 7 century. Viking start about 8th see also Valsgarde -- Vendel and Valsgarde are both actua...