The Armour Archive

Morgan

Whereas the way some people go to their knees certainly can't be GOOD (IE, those who jump in the air and slam down onto the ground on their knees) I'd agree with Marvin. The problem is in the twisitng, turning, planting badly and all that. Look at knee injuries in football. Most joint injuries occur...

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Morgan

I'd say my experience is similar to Bob's. I fight often in my Sinric armet, usually with the period visor. I don't like fighting madu or sword/spear guys, because the underhand thrust is impossible to see. Otherwise, not a real problem. It IS tougher at night, tho. But when I go to the grilled viso...

Morgan

That's the one, Krag. That exhibit is still there? It was there last October when I was in New York. Wow. The rest of their armour is so much fun to look at!

Morgan

TOO BRITTLE? What the hell were people DOING to those signs?

Sheesh. My shield gets beat on plenty, and no deformations yet. I've seen aluminium shields that were lots older than mine with no deformity.

Morgan

.125 thick is good. t6 6061. And Conrad's point about the slip roller is VERY correct.

Morgan

I think the only RULE about non-rivets in armour contstruction involve the helm, where screws and nuts and chicago screws and quick rivets are forbidden. But I don't think there are any rules against their use in body armour. I could be wrong.

Morgan

Yes, there are a number of live steel folks who show up around here. As a rattan fighter, I'd only take exception with your statement that live steel is "more satisfying". Since the target areas are more limited and the speed/force must be reduced, I'd say that the satisfaction level is merely diffe...

Morgan

We use sports tape quite a bit...basically the tape that is used on hockey sticks. it's lighter than duct tape and holds up pretty good.

Morgan

That's exactly what I was getting at, and thank you very much for your input, Your Grace. If a knight candidate had to go 50/50 with you to get your vote, I don't think you'd be voting yes on TOO many of the people who've been knighted in our faire kingdom since you were admitted to the order. At th...

Morgan

I think a lot of folks who've bragged about denting a 16 gauge helm don't realize that 16 gets stressed pretty easily, and they probably just hit a weak spot.

Morgan

Aleric, the only aspect we were actually talking about was prowess. Usually these conversations start with "all other things being there..." That kind of thing. It seems to me to be the area where people get hung up in a manner that's tough to explain. If somone's a rat-bastard, it's easy to see tha...

Morgan

I don't have a WORLD of problem with the 12's, I just want to know if that's the end of it.

IE, I don't want to start seeing 15's and 21's.

Morgan

hehe....that's what I was sort of thinking, but thanks for saying it out loud.

Morgan

Alcyoneus, I'm unfortunately referring to the idiot shieldmen who have over 1/2 their thigh exposed while in formation. I'm not saying shieldmen are idiots, I'm saying the ones who have 1/2 their leg hanging out exposed are. And they "cover" their exposure by blowing off shots to that limb, often. J...

Morgan

It's nice to be IN Texas and not FROM Texas. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Horns are legal in SCA combat, as long as they pass the other requirements. IE, they can't protrude more than something like 1/2 inch into a 1" opening. So a deer antler would likely be OUT. Too easy to go throug...

Morgan

I tell you what tho. I've virtually NEVER had someone take a thigh shot with a spear. edit: I thought I'd read in the rules somewhere that you're supposed to take the shots taking into effect the fact that different weapons hit differently. It's like having to put clackers on a mace to get people to...

Morgan

All I'm suggesting is that it would be more fair over a period of time if there was a baseline and the knights judged a candidate on that baseline (IE, this is what a knight's prowess should be at entrance to the order) rather than judging them against current average. Allow a wild example. Let's sa...

Morgan

Duc, you were fine. And it was nice to meet you, btw. The issue here is in large battles or more specifically congested areas. Let me use a battle you're familiar with to give you an example..from Bordermarch. Let's say you were in the door of the castle trying to push through to get in the castle. ...

Morgan

Good gentles, thanks for your replies. I know that what we're trying to do is put quantitative parameters on qualitiative issues, but it's hard to talk about it in purely philosophical terms without getting frustrated. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif So we try. My only question or issue w...

Morgan

Asbjorn, I'd say that if a melee is just a big tourney, that still a fighter who's a spear god but isn't all that hot with other weapons is still not a knight. "The candidate must be considered the equal of his perspective peers with the basic weapons of tournament combat." weaponS. Plural. But if h...

Morgan

I'd HEARD that Edwin wasn't putting together any more orders...but I could be wrong.

Morgan

Corpora says "The candidate must be considered the equal of his perspective peers with the basic weapons of tournament combat." Now, that leads to another interesting question for the chiv, IMHO. Does that mean that one has to be competitive with the worst of the chiv examples in each weapon form? h...

Morgan

So here's my take on it. If the person is OK with all weapons forms but is a spear GOD in melee, I'd say no. That's simply not enough. If they're a sword and shield GOD in melee, but can't fight in a tourney, still no. If they're a god in every way shape and form in melee, they can pick up any weapo...

Morgan

I love spear dueling. I enjoy spear in war. I hate 12 foot spears. I think that 9 is just fine to be a differnece from the 7.5 poles. 9 allows a decent mixture of weapons. I woulnd't mind at all melees that didn't allow 2 handed weapons. I think a weapon/shield melee would be an absolute blast, fran...

Morgan

I agree with Bjorn, but I'm more a 1 and 7 grip, personally.

Morgan

Anton, I think you have the gist of it in that last statement.

Morgan

The other issue with Calidan's theory is that if they put it there to protect because the metal was thin, why wouldn't they just use the metal from the rondel to make the metal from the helm thicker. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif IE, use more metal to start the raising process? I still ...

Morgan

I love it when folks are talking about my helm.

The rondel has been the opening of MANY new conversations with new friends. It's terrific!

Morgan

I'd be able to do some Tuesday/Thursdays at 10 Eastern. That'd be cool by me.

Morgan

WMA: Which kingdom is that? That's a pretty hardline stance, I'd think. I mean, a LOT of folks are using leather over padding. How thick does leather have to be before it's the equivelant of 18 gauge steel? Hmmm....very interesting. Edit: I just read the rest of the east kingdom requirements (after ...

Morgan

Oh, I wanted to weigh in on the original question. My background is fairly simple and common on this board: Fighting in the SCA for closing in on 3 years now, prior martial arts experience: 15 years judo and jujitsu with lots of "misc" sprinkled in for flavor. Any skill you learn will help you survi...

Morgan

Rattansbane?

Sweet, as usual, man.

Morgan

Stoffel: Your problem with SCA combat is more a semantic one than a real one. It's not YOUR fault, however. I don't WANT to get hit with a shot that's hard enough to KILL me through our supposed armour standard. I don't think too many people do. That's why we've chosed to refer to the shots that we ...

Morgan

Dalewyn, can you tell me where you've read that "rigid material" is 18 gauge or equivelant? I've read lots of marshall handbooks, and I've never seen that. I've only seen "rigid material" or "hard over soft." I'm NOT trying to be an ass, I'm VERY curious if that rule ACTUALLY exists somewhere.

Weapons proficiency to be knighted in the SCA