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- Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:23 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Tents in medieval LH (split from 'Viking reenactor beliefs')
- Replies: 94
- Views: 1134
My specific suggestion for FitzOsbern: If you have a long-term arrangement with a site owner, build a reconstruction of an 11th century Saxon barn and store some hay in it before an event. If the weather is good you have a supply of hay for bedding. If the weather turns bad you can "capture" the bar...
- Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:50 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Got my armour order from Historic Enterprises
- Replies: 16
- Views: 563
Re: Got my armour order from Historic Enterprises
James B. wrote:Got the package at work today and man are these arms light!
Did the expected but still surprising lightness cause audible spontaneous laughter? (I'm doing a survey.)
Got a postal scale at work? Weigh those puppies and tell us the result!
- Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:37 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Carlisle Lamellar?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 162
I would go with 2.8cm wide & 5cm high oblong plates like those found in Somerset. I did not see enough detail to discern a hole pattern for these in the one picture I have seen published. How far is this from the "archive" pattern sold by GAA? I'm thinking about making a steel "Carlisle collar" to g...
- Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:28 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Carlisle Lamellar?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 162
Yes the metal staples are visible, each of a length about 3x the distance between the holes. That image includes pixel counts and inches for measurements of height, bottom width and widest point (near top) width. I estimated 40 lames in each of 3 rows for a complete collar. The outer rows use wider ...
- Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:04 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Carlisle Lamellar?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 162
I don't know any more than what was on their Web site, but I have examined the x-ray image closely. I took the higher resolution image that they use as a background and tweaked the contrast to bring out detail, the traced individual lames, counted rows in 1/4 of a full circle, and scaled the image f...
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:17 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How do you harden leather armor?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 641
How about a nice historical suggestion: Get a gilder from the gilder's guild to do your gilding for you! (Ok, probably from the Atlantian scribes guild, but I couldn't pass up the chance to use "gilder's guild" in a sentence.) Even if you want to do your own, an experienced gilder could probably tea...
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:43 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A mycenaean in the SCA?
- Replies: 128
- Views: 1956
I think that part of my attitude about following the rules comes from all the grief that rapier fighters used to get about being out of period. Working with personnae, costumes, weapons and manuals explicitly documented prior to 1600 was one of the defenses that the rapier community developed agains...
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How many people DO NOT fight from their knees
- Replies: 42
- Views: 852
I do not fight from the ground in practice or tournament, I acknowledge the leg blow as a telling blow and yield the bout because I know of no historical evidence for anyone ever fighting from the ground in such contexts. In war or in a simulated duel I will fight from the ground because it is the o...
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:41 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A call to arms, my first legs
- Replies: 3
- Views: 183
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:35 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Armour choices
- Replies: 5
- Views: 203
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How do you harden leather armor?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 641
On soaking in glue: I also tried soaking the leather in rabbit glue earlier this week. For smaller pieces (lamellar lames) I agree that it works great, even better than painting it on. Soaking leather in glue causes it to bubble or "boil" which may be another clue about this technique. On gesso: I ...
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:55 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Kite Shields, earliest date of.
- Replies: 9
- Views: 187
- Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:42 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Tents in medieval LH (split from 'Viking reenactor beliefs')
- Replies: 94
- Views: 1134
Here are my thoughts, and I think Glen and I are on the same page here....Many quibble about the idea of sleeping out without a tent for a weekend. We portray people who often did it for months at a time. We are arguing about the necessity of tents, when often the people we portray were arguing ove...
- Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:47 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A mycenaean in the SCA?
- Replies: 128
- Views: 1956
The SCA has the loosest rules and the broadest inclusivity of any historical-dress-up group I have heard about. "pre-17th century European Middle Ages and Renaissance" covers a lot of historical and cultural territory. Given your previous posts I don't think you will have trouble finding a time "pre...
- Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:14 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How do you harden leather armor?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 641
Based on Chris Dobson's article, the more common historical method is to saturate with rabbit glue while baking at low temperature. With this approach you add gesso and paint. See m If you want the most authentic 13th-14th century leather armour possible (and I suspect you do) then my advice is to r...
- Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:49 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Which Cultures & Eras for Lamellar Armours?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 417
silk, leather, or rawhide. I've been experimenting, andwith thick laces an deburred, it doesn't seem to be an insuperable problem. Any clues at to whether the silk would be ribbon, braided cord, fabric strips, or some other construction? I would guess braided cord but that would just be a guess. I ...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:41 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Re-examining Modern Viking Reenactor Beliefs
- Replies: 326
- Views: 12738
...700 + lames of lamella in Birka is evidence enough to support me wearing lamellae armour in Pictland, much less two blocks over from the actual dig... It's a piece of lamella armour in a known Viking town. Vikings raided and settled in Pictland, and I'm portraying a Pict, so I'm wearing lamellar...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:47 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Which Cultures & Eras for Lamellar Armours?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 417
Giano, I would very much like to see it. With Alans and other Sarmatians as well as Huns invading throughout the region in the 5th and 6th centuries it would be difficult to establish an artifact as "Alamannic" in origin, but I am eager to learn more about it in any case. Tim, what do you think of t...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:16 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Plastic Sassinid :)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 430
See http://www.deepeeka.com/store/comersus_ ... =3836&pbg=
You will need to find a Deepeeka dealer to place the order for you, I expect.
You will need to find a Deepeeka dealer to place the order for you, I expect.
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:56 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Celtic Art is not Period!
- Replies: 114
- Views: 2471
This book: Author: Klindt-Jensen, Ole. Publisher: Cornell University Press Ithaca, N.Y., [1966] Language: eng Topic: Art, Art, Medieval., Vikings. Notes: Bibliography: p. 162-166. Notes: Translation of Vikingetidens kunst by Ole Klindt-Jensen and David M. Wilson. Phys. format: 173 p., illus., plates...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:27 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval mythbusting- help please!
- Replies: 40
- Views: 951
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:48 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Plastic Sassinid :)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 430
I think it is the thickness and not the color that make the "metal" plastic lames look...plastic. The black, brown or burgundy colors look good to me, as a smulation of leather lames. I'm wearing my black newcastle lames until I finish a coat of hardened leather lamellar. Tim, if you're not in a big...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:04 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Which Cultures & Eras for Lamellar Armours?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 417
I'm not sure whether lamellar armour originated with Scythians/Sarmatians/proto-Iranian language peoples on the central Asian steppes and spread to China from there, or possibly began in China and spread to the various Steppes tribes. Sarmatian steppes tribes bring it to both the eastern and western...
- Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:03 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 5th cent. Sarmato-Romano-British art style?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 49
5th cent. Sarmato-Romano-British art style?
Russ mentioned in another thread: ... Kept tooling the shoulder straps for a short lamellar cuirass (archer's getup). That seems like a great idea...I'd like to do that too...but what decorative style would a 5th century member of the Cuneus Sarmatae at Bremetenacum (Ribchester) have on their should...
- Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:01 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Monday Morning Train-in (2-14-2005)
- Replies: 16
- Views: 143
- Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:52 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The Dog Tamok of the Tuchux
- Replies: 96
- Views: 2492
Have those who know him informed him of the high regard in which he is held here? Have they offered to help with any research, advice or consultation he might want for improving his appearance on the field? Many on this forum, myself included, stand ready to advise and assist any courteous fighter w...
- Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:22 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Cuir Bouilli Musculata, (Leather Roman Breast plate)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 449
This work gets me thinking about the "curie" body armour seen peeking out from under a surcoat on a 13th century effigy. Wouldn't it be cool to pick one effigy and reconstruct all of the leather pieces (curie, ailettes, vambraces, cuises and shynbalds) to go with a mail draped conical helm, soupcan ...
- Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:55 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rabbit hide glue
- Replies: 10
- Views: 193
One of the first references to rabbit glue on this forum was m which cites the article by Chris Dobson: "As Tough as Old Boots? A Study of Hardened Leather Armour. Part One: Techniques of Manufacture" in ART AND ARMS. FLORENCE, CITY OF THE MEDICI, ISBN 0-9541633-1-1. I'll try to post more detail lat...
- Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Padding/stuffing
- Replies: 10
- Views: 267
Mine is linen, machine sewn, stuffed with wool. Very resilient, breathes well, been through the wash a couple of times with no problems. My wool was never combed or washed in hot water so there is likely a bit of lanolin left on it...which might be why it resists felting. Rollo, don't knock it 'till...
- Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:57 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Writer in need of help
- Replies: 25
- Views: 400
- Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:59 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Monday Morning Train-in
- Replies: 23
- Views: 234
Cold and rain and sick kids at home prevented any practice this week. Strength training (70 HS in 2 sets of 35, 30 HP in 2 sets of 15) Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Aerobic/Cardio (30 min. nrdic track) Tuesday but missed Thursday's session. I could claim that staying home with a sick kid disrupted m...
- Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:08 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Body armour
- Replies: 6
- Views: 399
I'm going to guess that you meant the 3rd or 4th century AD. In the 4th century AD you would find people with at least some remnants of celtic language, culture and ancestry in the (modern) countries of Turkey, Spain, France, England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. In some of these countries you would...
- Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:54 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Amazing leather armor (and my first post here! ^-^) ! (Edit)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 581
Re: Amazing leather armor (and my first post here! ^-^) ! (E
This guy's stuff is amazing! I was looking through google for ideas for leather scale armor when I stumbled across this page: m Thanks for the pointer! His work is definitely worth looking at. Does anybody have any advice that I could use? Any info would really help, and I thank you all in advance ...
- Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:52 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: can i get a suggestion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 358
Rawhide is not the same as tanned leather. Uilleag has given instructions for vegetable tanned leather. For rawhide I would cut it out extra large by at least 1", soak it thoroughly overnight, and then nail it to a wooden form and let it dry. Pry it off and trim to the desired shape. No heat is need...
- Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:45 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Best Leather Finish?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 235
