The Armour Archive

Brian W. Rainey

Mike F wrote:Do you have any links to info on Oxy-Propane?

Oxy/Acetylene can be acquired at any local welding supply store. You can normally rent or buy tanks and equipment.

Welding Supply Stores near Milwaukee

Brian W. Rainey

In the short term, it's probably about the same...but as a weatherproofing system it does work well. Gold or silver would need to be polished sure, but rust isn't a factor on a non-ferrous metal, only looking yucky. I'm not sure that it would be easier short term, but it adds protective value long ...

Brian W. Rainey

But maintenance would still have to be preformed. The fancy jewlry and expensive sports car would need service. I would think gilding, tinning, or silvering would simply be practical for that purpose, but wealth decided WHICH method you used. And even though you are doing the maintenance, you're se...

Brian W. Rainey

David Teague wrote:
17 layer arming doublet and a brig...

Best Regards,

David Teague

.... what are your references to a 17 layer arming doublet/coat in the 1400's?

I see 17 layers mentioned and am unfamiliar with anything that would have been that thick.

Brian W. Rainey

I think you can throw the ease of maintenance right out.... If you could afford fancy guilded armour.... you would not be concerned about the maintenance of the piece as you would not be performing the maintenance. Like wearing fancy jewelry and driving an expensive car while wearing Armani suits to...

Brian W. Rainey

Did you check the rating on it? Most of the rotary shears I have seen are only rated up to ~18ga mild, I believe. That could be the cause of the gapping... if you cut metal too thick/hard for the tool. You could probably look at the make/model and contact the manufacturer.... they could tell you the...

Brian W. Rainey

What kind of setup works well for hot working a helm? The propane forges I've been looking at at Centaur forge don't appear to have enough internal volume. Can the same setup be used for heat treating? Essentially- can you heat the whole piece at once? Oxy-Acetylene and a rosebud tip. Works great. ...

Brian W. Rainey

You can find a number of peter finer catalogues for legitimate sale here:

Peter Finer Auction Catalogs

And they are often available on E-bay. As are catalogs for Sotheby's, Christies and Hermann-Historica, I believe. Probably other auction houses that deal in arms and armour as well.

Brian W. Rainey

There is an easy way to alleviate any concern:

Peter Finer
1-800-270-7951

Brian W. Rainey

chef de chambre wrote:I think it's filed, to define the center line of the keel, and I think he did it because he has seen extnat black armours so treated.

Very nice.... gotta love attention to detail!

Brian W. Rainey

Ok, Patrick... inquiring minds want to know.

We have been actively discussing your hat for a few minutes on live chat. Why is there a smooth surface line down the crease?

Had to ask.

Brian W. Rainey

If you have permission do reproduce it, I would also like a copy.

Brian W. Rainey

I'm also sure no one would be nice enough to take my money and go to wherever the Dendra Panoply is and take accurate measurements, weights, etc... -Gregory- I just notcied this..... Given the information that many other members have received thus far.... there may very well be the opportunity to g...

Brian W. Rainey

Ugo wrote:Yep... beautifull HELM!

I agree. Patrick, can you describe how you tapered that metal from brow to skirt?

Brian W. Rainey

Gregory, why not save up and go do your own research. I'll go to college, maybe someplace like Emory, and hopefully work my way up through a Doctrine in an interesting specific topic of history. I'll then settle down penniless, and start a life as a teacher, and dry up to become a sour old man, hav...

Brian W. Rainey

I personally don't feel that restricting the knowledge to those willing to "help" the research is noble, or that it should go that far. As someone said themselves, there are nice people willing to give their money, when they can afford it, to help fund things like that as it is. Nobody is holding b...

Brian W. Rainey

(EDIT: This post was long and thoughtful, but overall negative. I've edited it.) I personally wouldn't join the society for reasons that are my own. Not only do I feel that one shouldn't have to contribute any sum more than their own knowledge and presence to such a society (not their cash), but If...

Brian W. Rainey

Thanks for the clarification, Brian. Like I said, I'm cautiously optimistic, and hope it works out. It's just that the "ARS" looks so much like the "MRS" that I'm hoping it doesn't meet a similar fate. Steve I guess I don't understand this statement. What is similar about the two organizations? Wha...

Brian W. Rainey

I'm watching the ARS with cautious optimism. It bears a strong resemblence to the Maille Research Society which didn't seem to last very long. The upcoming conference sounds neat. It's good to see these sorts of lectures happening on this side of the pond. Steve Steve, The Mail Research Society las...

Brian W. Rainey

Thanks to Bob and Patrick and others who helped we wont have to research it as it has already been done. I don't know if I would go that far.... Bob is not right ALL of the time! One of the benefits of continued research is that views in our subject matter change frequently when better research mat...

Brian W. Rainey

I'd join up with the Society, as well, but I have other dues to pay, sadly... Also, my interest lies in the Bronze Age, so I'd not likely keep up to make it worth my time, as extensively helpful as it may be for me, either way! -Gregory- "Armour Research Society" Not: "16th Century Armour Research ...

Brian W. Rainey

I just caught the thickness at the brow..... that is beefy.

Brian W. Rainey

Are any of these helms still extant? (So this is the helm you see in all those images!) There is some speculation that a few extant pieces may have originally been on hats such as this. There may even be an extant example or two running around.... Stay tuned to the ARS member's website and Journals...

Brian W. Rainey

Have you looked into picking it up yourself? I have always picked my stuff up at the local warehouses. If you need a truck... get it sheared ints 4x4s and I can pick it up for you... for the price of gas. You will probably save a bundle. I know I did. And don't let them talk you into crating fees. T...

Brian W. Rainey

Halvgrim wrote:Just like Wombat the url doesnt seem to work well

Halv

http://www.hammeredwombat.com/images/20 ... 6-04%20(12).JPG?

Brian W. Rainey

I think you have to look at the legal aspect. Could the Archive be held responsible in a law suite if somebody feels they were misled by the banner ad? Not unless they specifically told you to go to that vendor and profitted financially from the transaction. It would be the same as suing a newspape...

Brian W. Rainey

Not defending the "criminal" in any way, shape or form. Simply pointing out that some decisions... many made by individuals who hold absolutely no responsibility for the decisions they suggest... may not be the brightest idea. The Archive could post a warning to search the boards for information per...

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Yeah Wombat is gonna run right out and get himself a lawyer. He isnt in the postion to bring some sort of legal suit into fruition. I agree that in principle the AA (JT and Matt) should take the high road but Wombat is a common criminal and doesnt deserve it IMO. Halv Robb Schuster for those that m...

Brian W. Rainey

Could any of you provide the links to this church window or to the effigies in question so that I can save em? Thank You, Dougal Remember that when you use art as a source... you are also using the artists interpretation of the situation and potentially not the actually thing. A lot of artwork is d...

Brian W. Rainey

Unless JT/someone wants to setup rules regarding qualifications/guidelines for vendors... and apply/enforce them equally using a valid system of measurements... there is potential legal action that could be taken by a vendor if an add is pulled while in valid agreement to the original contract. If t...

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The effigy of Burkhard von Steinburg shows such a fauld, although it seems to be the only Germanic effigy that does. Erik Does the Steinburg effigy have a solid breastplate? I would not doubt that something of this nature could have existed.... howeve, I would question the existance on a segmented ...

Brian W. Rainey

The source for this anamoly is Pistoia Cathedral. It is on the silver altar of St. James. The breastplate in question is a solid one.... not segmented. A very nice article regarding the alterpieces of St. John and St. James can be found on the ARS Member's Website. The article is by Doug Strong (Tal...

Brian W. Rainey

Why do people continually air their own personal dirty laundry on this board? Not only does it make the board look ridiculous.... it does nothing more than make the poster look like an ass. Why don't people learn to deal with problems on their own. Commissions are private contracts... keep it private.

Brian W. Rainey

Karen Larsdatter wrote:An article in today's Boston Globe about Market Day at Birka ("They promote chain mail bonding") identifies the armorer, btw.

It identifies the person who made an arming doublet for the armour. Not the armour itself, BTW:

http://home.att.net/~klausrother/

Brian W. Rainey

I have broadband. And at work, I have significantly faster than that. But we're still talking files that are 3/4 of a MB or more. Trust me on this... you don't want to see 500 people each downloading 3MB worth of images. At that point, you start having to worry about monthly bandwidth quotas, and t...