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by Vitus von Atzinger
Mon Mar 04, 2002 8:57 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Do NOT do this.
Replies: 18
Views: 35

Do NOT do this.

Well, I was having a very bad day at Winter War and I couldn't figure out why. Finally, a marshall asked me "When was the last time you ate? Did you have a good breakfast?" I thought about it a minute and then I said "You know, I haven't eaten in 25 hours!" Then I laughed because I am so stupid. Do ...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Sun Mar 03, 2002 11:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat II - The battle rages on...
Replies: 173
Views: 53

Okay, I have to chime in here. I have to say that Rhys has quite a lot of very impressive scholarly backup in his assessment of the *historical* definition of what Chivalry was, and how it was viewed by medieval people for most of the period we study. There were always reformist voices though- and t...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Fri Mar 01, 2002 12:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Strategy vs tactics in SCA combat.
Replies: 19
Views: 17

Without strategy you will be soundly thrashed by the Monsters. They have all the physical gifts AND they think deeply as well.
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Fri Mar 01, 2002 11:22 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Combat Manuals
Replies: 76
Views: 56

Rhys- I mean that some people on these boards already know the answer that they want to hear, and I am tired of seeing you waste your efforts on people who are going to gripe at you because you don't give them the "correct" answer/opinion that they were fishing for. That is why I was laughing as I s...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Fri Mar 01, 2002 11:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there another answer?
Replies: 98
Views: 38

Diolun, you said in an earlier thread that what we do will always be a study or tribute to the best of the Chivalric ideals- I think that if you take the SCA as a whole, this is the only way you can look at it without going mad. People- there are sub-cultures within our sub-culture, and this is wher...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 28, 2002 7:12 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Combat Manuals
Replies: 76
Views: 56

Hahahahah! Shut up, Rhys! LOL!!

Winterfell...reminds me of my good pal Peter deWynter- warrior and scholar.
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 28, 2002 5:13 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Tournament or War???
Replies: 156
Views: 68

It isn't either one of those things (in the medieval sense).
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:41 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Knightly Arms cont.
Replies: 33
Views: 22

Knightly Arms cont.

Ewart Oakeshott would probably tell you that the Glaive was not a Knightly weapon. What should the more historically-oriented among us do- tell SCA knights to put down their glaives? I have no intention of saying such a thing to Sir Guido Martini or to Sir Omarad the Wary. No bows, huh? What about g...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:31 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat II - The battle rages on...
Replies: 173
Views: 53

Look, I know why Rhys, Alfred, Richard and others get all bent out of shape about this- I just think that there are more powerful ways to express the general idea than these amazingly well-written arguements. When Sir Yohannes saw me with a crossbow he said "What the hell are you dong with that? Put...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 3:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat II - The battle rages on...
Replies: 173
Views: 53

I have to admit, I'm with Sarnac here. I know too many people who have fun shooting CA, and I would hate to bum them out. Are these people into the things I'm into? Do they read Froissart? Do they even care about this whole arguement? Nope, and I can't make them care. Do I want them removed? No- the...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 3:09 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Well-polished Polish reenactors...
Replies: 25
Views: 23

Bascot, I respect your opinion but you are totally wrong. The checkies have no crests, there is the guy with the strange "Michelin Man" body armour, and that guy with the horrible blue kettle hat. Niccolo's group alone has six guys with period helmets- two with case-hardened steel limb armour. Thorn...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Attention St Olaf guys
Replies: 8
Views: 9

I was kidding of course. Just teasing you, old buddy.
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 12:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Do I have to Fight this guy???!!!!!! (spin-off from CA threa
Replies: 91
Views: 62

I have had archers shout "I yield!" at the *precise moment* that I am throwing my chastising blow. It's not all cut and dry.
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 11:36 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Attention St Olaf guys
Replies: 8
Views: 9

Murdock-
Are you saying that this noble Passage of Arms is running on "Murdock time"? Awesome! Extra sleep! Woo-hoo!
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 11:12 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat II - The battle rages on...
Replies: 173
Views: 53

Richard wrote- "I like wars as they were traditionally fought at Pennsic in the old days.." Oh, you mean before people started dying offensively, leaving the field through the ranks of "the enemy", and painting "bite me" on their shields? Oh wait- I am talking like a member of the dreaded Fourth Est...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Wed Feb 27, 2002 11:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The Fourth Estate
Replies: 11
Views: 16

The Fourth Estate

1.Those who serve.
2.Those who create.
3.Those who fight.
4.Those who sit around, cause trouble and refuse to contribute in any positive way.

Hahahahaha! Now we have a name for these people!
-Vitus
by Vitus von Atzinger
Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Historical Combat Series: Period Victory Conditions Tourney
Replies: 12
Views: 5

Judges who know when to say-
"You have done enough."
by Vitus von Atzinger
Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:01 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat
Replies: 177
Views: 100

Why are we always looking for these sweeping, across-the-board generalizations about armour, fighting techniques, the effects of weapons etc. ? This is not the way the world works- the modern world or the medieval one. You shot a arrow at a guy and it either hurt him or it didn't. Never say never. -...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:50 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Well-polished Polish reenactors...
Replies: 25
Views: 23

The last Pennsic Pas made these guys look like a joke. Sorry.
-Vitus
by Vitus von Atzinger
Sun Feb 24, 2002 11:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat
Replies: 177
Views: 100

There are quite a few examples of early battles where the knights dismounted in Delbruck.
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Sun Feb 24, 2002 7:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Talhoffer Plate 23 (1467 edition) Question
Replies: 22
Views: 18

People think that Rhys is "anti-fectbuch"- what a crock. How many times do I have to tell them that he KNOWS THE MATERIAL and thinks deeply about all the possible applications. So, Hugh, when are you going to open YOUR school? You know I'll be first in line. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gi...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Sun Feb 24, 2002 7:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat
Replies: 177
Views: 100

Good answers all around! It is so difficult to even begin understanding medieval people...the only thing we can be sure of is that somewhere there has always been a Chivalric Reform movement raging and ranting. There is one thing I know for sure- our "discussions" would surely be recognized by medie...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Sun Feb 24, 2002 4:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat
Replies: 177
Views: 100

Sorry to veer again but I gotta yell at Rhys again. Rhys wrote above- "LOL! My friend, it never ceases to amaze me how, as you have pointed out, we can come from two very different starting points (you, the romantic idealization of knighthood, and me, the stark reality of it) and end up at almost ex...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Vitus was right! Confessions of a close helm junkie.
Replies: 24
Views: 56

Nigel and I drove 12 hours to a Pas in Ealdormere last Saturday, and I have to admit I had no intention of giving everyone there a quick crash course in late 14th century tournaments and their SCA counterparts. I challenged all of the combatants present to single combat with sword and shield in the ...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:26 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: So you want to be an SCA Knight: Is God On Your Side?
Replies: 76
Views: 80

The only problem I have is that it is frowned on to mention God in any SCA context, but I have seen lots of Pagan folks having actual religious rituals at events. What a drag.
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 5:04 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Archery and Knightly Combat
Replies: 177
Views: 100

I shot my totally cool and max-power crossbow during two battles. I am not going to lie, it was so much fun I don't think I can describe it. I laughed my ass off the entire time. However, an interesting thing kept happening. I noticed that tons of good friends -who just happened to be wearing white ...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 4:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Vitus was right! Confessions of a close helm junkie.
Replies: 24
Views: 56

For the most part I agree with Rhys on this one. I consider the grille as a safe convention to represent open-faced situations, and I also think that all types of helmets and visors were used on foot as well. Medieval art, chronicle and verse support both approaches- visor on and off. I think that a...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 3:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Vitus was right! Confessions of a close helm junkie.
Replies: 24
Views: 56

SCA fighting is cool. The more strict historical formats are cool and offer that magic that can't be found anywhere else. I like to be prepared for both. I enjoy all types of feats of arms.
-Vitus

[This message has been edited by Vitus (edited 02-21-2002).]
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 3:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: call this thrust.
Replies: 32
Views: 17

My point exactly.
1st shot says "hello".
2nd shot says "goodbye".
3rd shot says "I'm being NICE."
If the second shot was weak, then ignoring the third would be discourteous.
-V

[This message has been edited by Vitus (edited 02-21-2002).]
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 3:31 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Vitus was right! Confessions of a close helm junkie.
Replies: 24
Views: 56

Muhahahahah! Kill!
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 3:12 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Giving Limbs in Chivalry's Name
Replies: 20
Views: 9

I can't even REACH the lightbulb.
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: calibration
Replies: 157
Views: 127

Vermin- It's not even the top 5%, dude. Any handful of individuals who are so self-centered that they insist that the other 19,999 members of the fighting population play their way...that is just not cool. There are TONS of dangerous monsters who know how to find the middle ground. How many famous j...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:47 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Vitus was right! Confessions of a close helm junkie.
Replies: 24
Views: 56

Marcus- There are plenty of chances these days to go to tournaments and Pas where people are EXPECTED to be wearing closed-face helmets and carrying crossguard swords. You are prepared for these more accurate tournaments where people want to create a mood that is more medieval. Your participation in...
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:31 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Giving Limbs in Chivalry's Name
Replies: 20
Views: 9

Never do it. All Pas should be counted blows anyway, so you shouldn't have to make the decision.
-V
by Vitus von Atzinger
Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:11 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: call this thrust.
Replies: 32
Views: 17

Take the third blow. Many people standing around will not be able to gauge the quality of these blows, and after they see you touched three times will no doubt slander you. This is to protect the reputation of yourself, your consort and your King. If you insist on fighting on, you will have more tha...