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Gaston de Vieuxchamps

This thread is getting informative. Nothing in favor of any fighting lawsuits and now letters against from the likes of Finvarr and Bri. Looking pretty bad for the "sued all the time" argument.

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

This thread really went downhill If all we did was training to mock-beat each other, it felt like sport. If we stopped and talked philosophy, chivalry, zen whatever, THAT is when it crosses over into Martial Art. That's pretty much exactly what I was trying to say a few dozen posts ago. Why does thi...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Oh, on a related note: Hockey would be a lot more popular if they wore the outfits from "Strange Brew" instead of the goofy diapers.

Gaston

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

The PC answer is to say that I would hate it without the "history" but I've never been known for being PC. I got into this game to fight at a time when I was on forced hiatus from karate and a buddy of mine was fighting in the SCA. I didn't realize people took the history seriously until later (not ...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

No one is "testing the waters" for a lawsuit or anything absurdly paranoid like that. If people are going to say there are lawsuits, they should be able to have examples. I know of two. Neither has anything to do with fighting liability at all. Someone went so far as to say, "we get sued all the tim...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Sir Axel listed blade length but everyone else was using overall length. A longer handle might make a difference especially if you counterweight (I do not). Overall length works well for comparisson unless you are one of the few that leaves a long butt on your sword for protecting your arm/wrist. 28...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

There is one but I cannot remember all the details. It had to do with some guy who was not allowed to make coinage and coerce merchants into using it as legal tender. Watts. You obviously got the story from the defense side ("coerce merchants") but even that case was really a legal pissing match be...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I could, but I won't. Please forgive the general nature of this description as one of the people still plays SCA and I do not wish to violate the person's privacy. There was, however, an on the field fighting injury that was in question. 10-12 years ago an individual either sued or perhaps just lea...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Nathan, I was not aware that you were injured? Yah. Ardion shattered my left ulna 8 weeks ago. I my full arm cast off friday but I'm still a long way from healed. Mrks, Hey that video looks familiar He told me you guys had a date and it's not the same as our coronation this year (whew). I hope to b...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Can anyone name a single real case with actual names and dates?

Gaston

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Actually he steps up May 25, but our big 20th year celebration isn't until September (Labor DaY weekend). His left eye was the victim of laser surgery gone bad. It's not truly blind but it is "legally blind" and not really useful for anything except causing double vision and headaches. They sent him...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

It was an interesting day. I was convinced Baldar wasn't fighting due to the ruptured tendon in his hand that he got about 3 weeks ago. He was very stressed about missing crown since he had trained quite a bit for this crown. He left the final decision till that day and he decided to fight feeling t...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

All, Again- read carefully OK, OK, ya got me ! This one is out in left field . You made your case, we'll revert immediately to the standard as written prior to latest clarification. I don't think my mind makes a distinction between inner and outer wrist but you've convinced me. I have been hit "the...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I just gotta chime in. How come every time Auk makes sweeping changes to our game he calls it a "clarification" instead of owning up to the fact he's writing major new rules?

Sorry, I'm cranky right now.

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Now that I'm old and lazy, I use a long sword.

34". Sometimes a bit more including the thrusting tip

G (only Gimpy for one more day)

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I believe in a distinction between "martial art" and "martil sport" but it has nothing to do with leathality. I spent many years as a "traditional" martial artist and never heard anyone relate the distinction to leathality. I agree that SCA fighting is generally a "martial sport"--like boxing, fenci...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I would use hardwood or rattan for the central pole rather than metal.

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Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Counted blows received is no more period than what we do now. I disagree. Counted blows recieved may not be an actual period combat style, but it's certainly a lot closer than the "Monty Python Black Knight" rules we currently use. Face it, our fights look embarasingly stupid with one guy on his kn...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I look at it this way, if the only place you can hit your opponent is the shin, then you probably dont deserve to win the fight. Or maybe you don't deserve to win the fight if you can't defend your shins. Seriously, I think it would add a lot to the game and be great "game balance wise" but I also ...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

SO, yes... I realize that my local situation has exasterbated a simple situation...but the initial question Is one that pops up often in my mind. I would say that as long as you keep it in your mind, you should be ok. But no one online can really say without seeing the fight. I don't think your add...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I trained pretty hard in karate before I got lazy and joined the SCA. I've never done anything I would call "training hard" since I've been in the SCA. When I was pretty new, I did pell work for about an hour 2-3 times per week and fought once a week. Then tappered off to a lot less pell. When I fir...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Technique - -Allow combatants to place their shield against the body or limbs of the opponent to block movement or, by pushing, to displace. Again, we did this perfectly safely in the SCA for decades before certain marshals got uptight about it. Planting a shield edge firmly on the inside of the op...

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My take on using your size and strength at a practice is it doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t really teach you anything. Being big and strong you probably will bounce into the top of the mid-range fighters fairly fast but from there on I would think you will stall or plateau until you go back to basics and learn some...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

How did it happen? I got hit with a stick. Were you wearing anything under the plates that could be considered padding? Not really. I got in the habit of not wearing not much in the way of padding when I had my old .090 6061 vambraces because, with padding, I couldn't feel blows well enough. When I...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

As a marshall in the SCA, I would have to be against this with great weapons, single weapons ok, great weapons can generate too much force, and if your foot is planted, there goes your knee, or break your shin bone. make this a standard rule tho, a legal target area for single hand weapons only, no...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

There's been the occaisional broken arm but mostly due from inadequate (or in my case total lack of) armour. Mainly just bruises and aches. I have a broken arm right now. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, my left ulna was shattered about 5 weeks ago. I'm the only person I know of in the entire ...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Finnvarr wrote:How likely are elbow pushes to lead to joint injuries?

I would say the odds are only slightly higher than 0.

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I was once in an SCA tournament "to the yield" and it was a lot of fun until I faced a guy with the "You can hurt me but you can't break me" attitude. It was ugly. I eventually yielded "to his spirit." If we ever try that again, we need to make sure everyone understands there is no dishonor in ackno...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I like this idea (even though it would hurt my own fighting--probably for quite a while) I think if it got widespread you'd see some inventive crossguard/cuphilt combos. Let gauntlet folks have the advantage of not calling hand blows--there are enough disadvantages that the advantage is warranted an...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

many experienced SCA combatants. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not denying that there would be an adjustment period, or that initial work with it would have to start out in limited scenarios and expand, but do you really feel that the SCA membership is that far out of line with other groups? In a word, Yes. WeÃ¢â‚¬â„...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

This is a very good question. Unfortunately we really can't answer it for you online. What I mean is that it's so situational that even your fairly thorough description can't give us enough info to know whether or not your behavior is kosher. Some people will laugh and enjoy your techniques, others ...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

I can't see why we shouldn't be allowed to move the shield with an elbow or knee or the back of the hand. Exactly. It's a total non-issue and some officers just need to get the sticks out of their asses and let us go back to doing things we did safely for decades. Grabbing the shield? Not sure, nee...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

Quite some time ago I had the chance to fight under a full leg rule at a NON S.C.A. event. I found that every time I stepped in for a wrap I got hit in the lower leg. That and the folks with two handed swords were a lot more effective, they could fake to your lower leg and reverse to your head. The...

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

While we're reminiscing and getting excited about Ragnaroc, here's some more pics from last year.

http://houseasgard.com/ipw-web/gallery/ ... hotos-2004

Gaston de Vieuxchamps

You should browse these websites:

thehaca.com

aemma.org

chivalrybookshelf.com

If you're SCA, you can also check this out for videos:

http://houseasgard.com/files.html (bottom half of page)

Hope that helps

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