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Hushgirl

As I said, this goes beyond CA, even beyond combat.

[This message has been edited by Hushgirl (edited 01-03-2003).]

Hushgirl

We could sell it as a commercial--maybe for Turtlewax?

Hushgirl

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Seems to me, that by any definition, Chivalry includes doing the King's will Well, does "champion of the right and the good" trump "obedient to my liege lord," or the other way around. I have a...

Hushgirl

Well, of course the fighters here will have to address this more properly, but since you sign the back of your card agreeing to abide by the rules, and if you took the leige-oath to your king as all peers are required to do and all non-peers are encouraged to do, are you or are you not obliged by yo...

Hushgirl

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by dukelogan: assuming that this is an sca scenario: no they can not. if you saw this happen you were dealing with people that do not understand the rules or the structure of t...

Hushgirl

Which is sort of my point, W. You (generic)agree to play by the rules as they stand. If you (generic)don't like the rules as they stand, you (g)have three basic choices. 1. Don't play 2. Campaign to change the rules. 3. Shut up and soldier. I won't tell you which to choose, but these are the only ho...

Hushgirl

"9. No projectile weapons shall be allowed and no weapons shall be thrown within the Lists of a tournament." BUT "The use of approved projectile weapons for melee, war, or combat archery* shall conform to the appropriate Society and Kingdom Conventions of Combat." Seems clear to me. There are places...

Hushgirl

Don't the rules make a very clear distinction?

Hushgirl

Should there be?

Hushgirl

Ah, it's "Have you read and do you understand the rules..." not "Do you swear to abide by..." that I remember. It's only assumed that you agree to play by the rules, then.

Hushgirl

Okay, the memory really is the first thing to go. When you authorized, did you take an oath to abide by the rules of combat as set forth by your kingdom and the SCA Inc., or not?

Hushgirl

We've not lost a suit yet, but nobody's ever actually died of injuries received on the field yet. It wouldn't hurt to be prepared, and a prepositioned camcorder would be easier to hide than some poor guy bobbing and weaving around the marchalls with a basket or a tortoise shell or a camcorder right ...

Hushgirl

I honestly think (and don't ask me how we'd fund it) that all official combat should be recorded from at least two angles. I've seen people swear this or that happened, when it turned out it was nothing of the sort. Now, it could be used to cloud tourney results (instant replay syndrome), which woul...

Hushgirl

Apparently, everyone doesn't agree with you, Vermin. And apparently the people who make the rules you agreed to play by don't agree with you at all. Why don't you go "nip" them? And we'd think you were less of an a** if you didn't get so abusive about it. [This message has been edited by Hushgirl (e...

Hushgirl

So you think either archers should just give up or heavies should just adapt?

Hushgirl

Ever notice the pattern to these threads? Someone politely says, "I'd like to try it", a couple of people say something encouraging, and just as thing are starting to look friendly, somebody has to jump in with both feet to try and squash them before they even get started.

Hushgirl

I like Waddy's suggestion, though. We could do that while some no-CA bout is going on.

Hushgirl

I wonder, if we used golf balls instead of tennis balls, would they go through a bargrill? If we slit the golf tube and roll it to match the diameter? Hmmm...

Hushgirl

Besides, it'll save your hiney if someone accuses you of bad behaviour.

Hushgirl

I don't think anybody has ever suggested that the way the SCA does CA is perfectly right. Definitely, a lot of things need fixing. On both sides.

Hushgirl

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by gilbertdeschamps: How about embossed around a white 60 inch ornate hip belt. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif regards Gilbert<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> In runes?...

Hushgirl

"Here is my own peeve: I believe that to try to eliminate CA at an inter-personal ground level, by making the lives of combat archers miserable before, during and after scenarios where CA is clearly permitted, and by insulting them and scoffing at the hard work, the training, the money and the time ...

Hushgirl

(major round of applause for Gilbert)

Hushgirl

There has been no official ruling on whether it's a grand melee or a war-type combat. Certain people seek to convince by sheer volume in favor of the grand melee. Archery was used in war. Our kings still use archery in their battle plans.

Hushgirl

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jean Paul de Sens: Oh puleeze. from a 30 lb bow? (edited 12-31-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It took two grown men to string my crossbow (aluminum prod, 50#). I don't...

Hushgirl

Malcolm--I know you're too smart to say your lady is dishonorable. She knows where you sleep--and when. It would be better to say an archer's honor is different, rather than "archers are dishonorable." I wouldn't expect an archer to get knighted unless he/she were also past journeyman at the other c...

Hushgirl

And probably that's how the men who really died to archery felt, too. Still, they died. And the survivors still employed archers, sometimes at great cost. As I said, when a bow breaks, you can get hurt. That's why the archery marshalls practically mug you before they let you onto the field. Archery ...

Hushgirl

Well, his spelling got a little better, now that you mention it.

So--is "bows are for peasants" a modern SCA artifact?

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Hushgirl

Vermin--you never change.

Hushgirl

I'll leave it to T-Bob to find examples of the nobility using a bow in battle. In the meantime, does anyone have any documentation of a knight being reprimanded for using a bow in combat? Or is "bows are for peasants" a modern SCA artifact?

Hushgirl

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ulfr of Wulf Den: Sure, there's lot that could go wrong. We're all in the same boat on that one - equipment is bound to fail when it's used a rigorously as we do. And rattan...

Hushgirl

My point is that too many heavies think archery is easy. It's not easy, and in it's own way, it's dangerous. I didn't say it was as hard as heavy fighting--I said it wasn't easy. Was that clear enough? And as I understood it, tourneys were only practice for war. [This message has been edited by Hush...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Hushgirl:
Does anyone know of any cases where a knight was reprimanded for using a bow?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ulfr of Wulf Den: But with a few minutes instruction, an archer can do it. Ulfr<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> With a few minutes instruction, an archer can shoot. It only coun...

Hushgirl

One more thing--an archer's equipment can, if not properly used and maintained, explode on him. The string breaks, the limb shatters. the trigger slips. Put your eye out, kid. Maybe take a finger.

When was the last time your rattan did that?

This is why archers need to not be hit.

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