The Armour Archive

carlyle

I could cut some slack to the guy who rigs up a SINGLE point spear with a sliding buckler/handguard as an option to a guantlet. At least as much (if not more) than I rely on when I take two-sword to the field. There is literary (only about as much, and as reliable, as there is for two-sword) and ic...

carlyle

Dmitriy wrote:Cyrus was at Prova, as well (not yet a knight, granted).

Doh! The only part of the video I picked up (I was scanning quickly) looked a lot like Hauoc (the belt sort of gave it away). I didn't see Cyrus fights; My Bad... AoC

carlyle

Ah, but what some people are presenting here isn't the "Murdoch effect" - it is the.... oh.... lets call it the "BoD Effect" To simply legsitlate behavior or activities that fall outside of certain (in this care their own) limited expectations or desires. Dilan, I just wanted to...

carlyle

Trevor wrote:And why just a tunic-mail was worn over padding...

Not according to the Maciejewski Bible. In every case where mail is shown either being removed or put on, the wearer is depicted as only wearing a tunic underneath.

Hope this helps... AoC

carlyle

But thrusts to the body are not required to be lighter. I'm going to have to look that one up; I understood that body thrusts were expected to be lighter than edge attacks. Now, if the mail armor standard is what we are to be using, isn't anyone using armor that is more rigid, provides greater glan...

carlyle

You are right, when talking about a horn weapon. But if a guy is holding a sword or a short spear one handed, and delivers a thrust? Still cheesy? ... like many people here are assuming that people using single hand thrust weapons are doing so to be "cheesy", you are assuming that they ar...

carlyle

twoswords wrote:He does seem to use that style of shield though. Here is the La Prova Dura video...

I'm pretty sure that's Duke Hauoc in the La Prova Dura video, Marcus. Cyrus was knighted in 2006 by Radnor, and the fighter in the LPD vid is belted... AoC

carlyle

It looks like he is using a small shield to try to impress people. I gotta disagree here. I'm pretty sure what we're looking at is video of a practice, and the video is incidental to the training. I don't know what was in Cyrus mind at the time, but I've often taken styles I was trying to develop o...

carlyle

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April Fools

:twisted::twisted:!!!

carlyle

I know of two eras that used round shields. Is your fighting style an emulation of viking round shield fighting or late period "buckler" fighting? I'm trying to gather techniques and references for the latter. Only "late-period" buckler? To my SCA-addled mind, this implies 16th ...

carlyle

... and while you're at it, tell Cyrus that, for the two-sword combination, he needs to drop that leading left-hand shot lower onto the leg, and hold the following right to the head a little longer until after he has slid/stepped. If he wants to know what I'm talking about, just send him down here t...

carlyle

... what you said ... can be distilled down to ... "two weapon styles are just conan comic books come to life." This is a fallacy, Jonathan. Continuing the reductio , you might as well have said that "all weapon styles are just comic books come to life", because as Animal alread...

carlyle

So let me test my understanding here: you'd be ok with a gauntlet and no basket hilt on a two ended thrusting stick? Or a basket hilt with a one ended thrusting stick? Is it the basket hilt or the two thrusting tips that's a problem? Thanks for clarifying, Jonathan; I have been operating under the ...

carlyle

This is an unfortunately narrow viewpoint Alfred, and one that I strongly disagree with ... I very much prefer the idea that we are encouraged to experiment, not just stick to what has survived somehow in books. I believe our experimentation should be within reasonable bounds... I don't see that we...

carlyle

If you stop and think about this for a second, we're all doing the same period. We're all fighting in 2008... <deleted> ... What about the average SCA person that doesnt have this all consuming passion for history like some of us do? They just show up to SCA events to be SCA people and they dress l...

carlyle

By the definition you just wrote, though, ... (t)he closest I've seen was a forearm-mounted long, skinny shield with a thrusting tip mounted to it. You're either being intentionally obtuse, Jonathan, or you're picking nits. By "shield", he means buckler, describing a weapon with an integr...

carlyle

Ingelri wrote:force = mass x (velocity / time)

Before you get too far, I think the formula is:

force = mass x acceleration

acceleration measures change in velocity

velocity/time = distance; this is not the same thing.

Hope this helps... AoC

carlyle

... if, in the attempt to grasp my blade, the attacker should be struck in the hand, then the attacker must give up use of that arm. This also makes sense, for the attacker has aggressively put their hand in harm's way and were we not to penalize them for it, we would have many blocks made with the...

carlyle

... the first was using a greatsword inverted... Yeah, that classically medieval weapon form adopted by many a crusading knight affectionately termed "Christian" greatsword.. ... and the second a short spear. I would have sworn that it had a thrusting tip on both ends, but after re-examin...

carlyle

I caught the following while surfing YouTube tonight: m Both belted fighters are using madu derivatives (though the red-shirted squire learned how to cope about midway through ). I can only wonder at the marvelous medieviality (sic) of their effort. I don't know why I never saw it before; the exampl...

carlyle

As interesting was a German shiled from around 1550, which had a center spike, a sword blade out one side, and an attached articulated gauntlet parallel to the sword blade with dagger blades coming off the metacarpal knuckles of the index and pinky fingers. I posit that were DA to use anything madu...

carlyle

You have the same penalty with a single handed sword that you would with a two=handed sword-if your hand is struck while grasping your own blade: you lose the arm under the target substitution rule. OK, color me confused, but how is this any different than when your hand gets hit while wielding a p...

carlyle

Trevor wrote:... the Society EM has made it so that if you grip your blade and your hand is struck, you lose the use of that hand. (Note, this is the only occurence where your hand is now a legal target.)

What?? And there isn't a 10-page thread somewhere on this? Or did I miss that memo?

carlyle

...itâ€™s time for madu fighters to own up to the fact that what they are doing ... unfairly exploits both the rules and the fighting community's inability to confront all but the most egregious offenses... we're an honor-based society that expects people to man up and adhere to the rules, not beca...

carlyle

At some level, isn't everyone participating the in SCA is taking part in fantasy, every bit as much as the Tuchux, Dagorhir (sp) and the other groups? Within the context of their seperate Plays, I think it's more appropriate to call it "fiction". "Fantasy" applies when the subje...

carlyle

This is a pretty telling statement you just made. You soeak that people are imposing madus on you. Am I to believe that everywhere you go to events there are gangs of madu bearing thugs that stalk you in the list? Whether it's 1 or 100, it's an imposition when it falls outside both the word and spi...

carlyle

What's 'gay' is whining about a weapon that you can supposedly defeat so easily... whining on the internet doesnt make you look disdainful. It makes you look like a pussy. Just sayin. You keep trotting this fallacy out every time the topic comes up, Animal. The only whining that's going on are the ...

carlyle

What I was hoping for was to be able to make a period correct shoe that had a more sturdy base. I will just figure out how to make it appear to be a turnshoe. You can always "cheat" the way I did -- I clumped soles on with tunnel stitching from the beginning when the boots were new (in fa...

carlyle

I got nothing on 14th century turn welts only 15th century. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I was only commenting on how tenuous the evidence for even 15th C. turn welts are (assuming that the authors are, in fact, suggesting outer soles attached to rands, rather than referring to the ...

carlyle

Yes, we are talking about the same thing. I tried to validate soles attached to rands long ago for 14th C. footwear (I, too, wanted more durable and replaceable outer soles that would hold up to the abuse of SCA activities). In my research, though, the connection proved tenuous -- but that was over ...

carlyle

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, Maeryk. I agree that Marc has done the historic shoemaking community an invaluable service; but despite the title, the page you posted is all about 16th C. shoes and later (at least, those with explicit provenence). Yes, these are all representative of post-me...

carlyle

Turn welts apear in the early 15th century with an extent example dated to around 1430. Almost all shoes are welted or turn welted in the 16th century. I don't dispute that. The presence of the welt in the 15th C., however, is not to attach the sole; that is still turned with the upper (suspicion i...

carlyle

I have read about that technique also but I think it was used later than the middle ages; I will have to look at the books on later period shoes and see if any of them use the angle slit instead of a groove. My understanding is that the whole application of a welted sole is late -- certainly after ...

carlyle

Dagonet wrote:I am still a relatively young knight, with much to learn.

Thank you for your wisdom, Sir.

Oof! Looks like Sha-ul and I both need to use more emoticons!!

Just pullin' yer chain, D; no offense intended

!!

Alfred the Jackass

carlyle

well, I am his knight...and he was there... Yes, but you should know better than to publicly admit it was you. You see, the story actually goes, "... my squire Broadway hit himself with an excessive shot once...but he was drunk...and didn't have a helm on..." I mean, what else are they go...

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