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by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Someone who thinks that getting to be scum or shooting a bow at fighters is important but respect for the crowns and the structure of the organization is not needs to be re educated about what the SCA is all about and how it came to be. Do you think that people who do not wish to play noble are &qu...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Well, you aren;t very good at reading my posts Charlotte, because I wrote no such thing. I stated people who could not tell the difference between horse crap, and human crap, were either stupid or ignorant, or couldn't tell the difference between a domesticated herbivour, or a mountain-lion. - I di...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:11 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Someone who thinks that getting to be scum or shooting a bow at fighters is important but respect for the crowns and the structure of the organization is not needs to be re educated about what the SCA is all about and how it came to be. Do you think that people who do not wish to play noble are &qu...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

The problem is, that it isn't crap. If you can't see that an event which has animals at it, being used in a Medieval fashion, ADDS dimension to an event, and that being at one that does not LACKS that dimension, then that is a matter of a fault with your perception, such as a person being colour-bl...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

The problem is, that it isn't crap. If you can't see that an event which has animals at it, being used in a Medieval fashion, ADDS dimension to an event, and that being at one that does not LACKS that dimension, then that is a matter of a fault with your perception, such as a person being colour-bl...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Well, guilty as charged. There are times when I don’t know or really care who the crown is. I’m a peer, but I’m also a parent, and I am also an artisan. First priority is to my family. The next (in this particular list) is to my art. Because the first keeps me so very busy, I don’t have nea...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

An SCA event would be expected to have the logistical support for the horses, iof horses were present. Regardless, your analysis of that situation was, and still is incorrect. How so? That horses, not under control of their owners, wandering around in camp, is not acceptable for the SCA? My beef is...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Well we have a structure in place that was originally the focus of the entire organization. Now we have people go to crown lists and don't want to watch the tournament, don't give a shit who wins and are upset because horses weren't there for them to focus on. At one time in the SCA everybody knew ...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:56 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

An SCA event would be expected to have the logistical support for the horses, iof horses were present. Regardless, your analysis of that situation was, and still is incorrect. How so? That horses, not under control of their owners, wandering around in camp, is not acceptable for the SCA? My beef is...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

And now I've got to turn around and agree with Chef. For better or for worse, the SCA is a big tent, defined by being a big tent. We're a "Society". In a society, there are always a lot of different people doing different things. My thing doesn't really diminish from your thing, as long as...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:38 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Re: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)

Bullshit, Bob. If the incident where YOUR horses broke their line at 2am , and galloped around through camp, had happened at an SCA event, it would have been a disaster. You're talking rather tall about this for a guy who had his horses running around my tent. Please. You really don't know what you...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Re: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)

I happen to strongly believe that horses should be involved wherever it can possibly be accomplished if the SCA is ever to evolve.~dev~ All I can say is that the SCA is not a progressive organization and was never intended to "evolve" It is what it is and sometimes horses are welcome and ...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Again, horses are commonplace at reenactments, with many people about, and very few difficulties. The problem is that a difficulty with a housecat involves some scratches. A single difficulty with a horse could involve death. Considering how very many MORE people there are at an SCA event, your cha...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:08 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

Horses don't suddenly freak out, for no reason whatsoever. Something sets them off. Your Grandfather and the unfortunate minister did not see, or realize what set the horse in question off. Regardless, as has been pointed out, nobody is advocating horses wandering around loose, and uncontrolled. Pe...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA and the Tool of Oppression (horse)
Replies: 235
Views: 3667

I have very mixed feelings about all of this. I love horses. (I'm female, don't we all?) I've ridden some, but not a lot. I fully admit that I only have a little real experience with them. In general, I'd love to see more horse activities at SCA events. But I also have two pre-schoolers. I know, I k...
by Charlotte J
Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:49 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Women's 14th century head coverings?
Replies: 8
Views: 304

What, specifically, are you looking for? You could do with "dressing" your hair, as in doing it up in braids. Or you could go with a veil and wimple. Do you have a picture? If you're looking for veil and wimple, I usually just use my standard napkin size (because I have tons of them kickin...
by Charlotte J
Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:44 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Lace for Pouches
Replies: 9
Views: 258

I don't know how to fingerloop braid, and lucet chord would be easy to make - I'm thinking of teaching myself (even though it seems to have fallen out of use by my period). I found a good video online showing how. Accuracy-wise, you're better off with a plaited braid (like braiding hair) than a luc...
by Charlotte J
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:56 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: I screwed up / fixing a linen shirt
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Piecing fabric is wonderfully authentic. You'll have fabric wonks swooning! See? Char and Tasha are already patting you on the back! Bob How to make a man swoon... I'll extend Bob's spot-on piecing fabric comment, by pointing out that very few medieval garments are cut exactly the same as one anoth...
by Charlotte J
Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:10 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: I screwed up / fixing a linen shirt
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Add the fabric.

This is for under something 14th or 15th century? You say “doublet and hoseâ€
by Charlotte J
Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Need help with 14c period clothing
Replies: 24
Views: 641

My money's on Karen's proposal. Didn't see it when I first responded.
by Charlotte J
Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:31 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Need help with 14c period clothing
Replies: 24
Views: 641

Re: Thanks for the replies

Thank you all for your input! I decided to try two companies: pearson's renaissance shoppe and medieval collectables. I hope they prove trustworthy. I am sure I will be buying (not sewing, as I wish I had the skill) more in the future and will definitely give your responses consideration. Thanks ag...
by Charlotte J
Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:44 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: A thought on hose pointing.
Replies: 23
Views: 421

Heh. I'm a member of La Belle. But my opinions are mine, and I don't speak for the group... I'm not sure what you are implying? Could you elaborate... Just that I appreciate the plug for our group. Many of my opinions on doublets and pourpoints have been shaped by La Belle, but I by no means speak ...
by Charlotte J
Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:43 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: A thought on hose pointing.
Replies: 23
Views: 421

Check out the Book "1381: The Peel Affinity" that is sold by Gaukler. I know it is not a primary (or even secondary) source, but the La Belle Company is very well researched and I think there is a good shot of the knight's hosen being pointed up to a Du Blois style coat. Another thing wou...
by Charlotte J
Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:01 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: A thought on hose pointing.
Replies: 23
Views: 421

Ah, terms. What a PITA. In general, I use doublet for a garment worn over the shirt, under the gown, usually lined, and frequently form fitting. I use doublet for both the 14th and 15th centuries (I don’t really deal with later centuries), though I recognize that there are stylistic differences be...
by Charlotte J
Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:53 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: A thought on hose pointing.
Replies: 23
Views: 421

For 1370, the style is snugger around the hips, and I think you're justified in using your doublet as a pourpoint. Also, if your doublet is short and tight by that time, you could probably use split hose instead of chausses, which are pointed in multiple places. For earlier, there are other options ...
by Charlotte J
Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:27 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: under doublet / pourpoint pattern (circa 1470 persona)
Replies: 101
Views: 2973

Bob, Are you certain that hose were never worn informally, even by nobles, by rolling them down to the calf, as stockings? You should know by now that you can't prove a negative! Bob, we might be thinking of different folks. The friends I have who dress like that don't go to court or really do the ...
by Charlotte J
Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:20 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: A thought on hose pointing.
Replies: 23
Views: 421

When in the fourteenth century are you going for? The CdB is supposedly dated to the late 14th c., not the 15th. You would probably not want to point items to the garment before the style becomes much more fitted. Otherwise, that weight will be hanging from your shoulders instead of the hips. So, da...
by Charlotte J
Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:54 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: under doublet / pourpoint pattern (circa 1470 persona)
Replies: 101
Views: 2973

It's rather like the 14th-century underwear I keep seeing walking about at events. It's appropriate to wear only your underwear when you're in the field harvesting grain. As soon as you leave the hard, hot work, however, you put your clothes on. But no, it's hot, there's a picture we found in a boo...
by Charlotte J
Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:48 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: WOR group prospectus
Replies: 14
Views: 371

Re: WOR group prospectus

SCA events- The SCA is the largest medieval recreationist group in the US and about half of medieval re-enactors in the US attend SCA events. Occasionally piggybacking on SCA events gives the group the ability to get together without managing logistics and the opportunity to expose what we do to ot...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:14 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: under doublet / pourpoint pattern (circa 1470 persona)
Replies: 101
Views: 2973

aegidius - I think there's a little confusion here. The vest-like underdoublet to which you refer is mostly a conjecture, although there are many reenactors who do use it. I'd be happy to revise that statement though, if others can show good evidence. You're most certain to get an accurate look by p...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:43 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Question on hose pointing holes
Replies: 7
Views: 148

A lot depends on the fabric. If it's heavy and not loosely woven, you can get away with no reinforcement. With Jeff's melton hose, it's just the single layer of wool. But it's not a bad idea to have two layers where the eyelet is. You could either add another swatch of wool, or just give yourself a ...
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:46 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Question on hose pointing holes
Replies: 7
Views: 148

When I make hose, I use two eyelets horizontal.

I have a demo here:
http://www.mathildegirlgenius.com/Docum ... Lacing.pdf

The article as a whole is aimed at dressmaking, but if you scroll down to page four I have a photo tutorial on eyelets.
by Charlotte J
Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:42 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Need help with 14c period clothing
Replies: 24
Views: 641

Re: Need help with 14c period clothing

I am new to the SCA and would like to find period clothing to buy for specifically the 14th century (high medieval) time frame. I don't want to disrespect my group by purchasing something that is innapropriate. If anyone can direct me to a website and more specifically what to look for and what not...
by Charlotte J
Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:25 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: What web site did I get these pictures from?
Replies: 7
Views: 388

Select the document in Explorer (don't open it, just highlight it). Right click, choose "Properties", you shoudl get a window with three tabs, General, Security, and Summary (this is in XP, may be slightly different in other MS OS's, but it's been pretty stable for several years). Third t...
by Charlotte J
Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:06 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: What web site did I get these pictures from?
Replies: 7
Views: 388

Just some advice. When I save a photo from a website, I go to the properties of the file and add a short description and weblink. This allows me to easily figure out what the photo is when '87dsjkj89.jpg' is not descriptive enough. Og. Uh... I'm not *that* much of a computer moron, but where do you...