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InsaneIrish

Ok we will try this one more time I have the belt fittings already I need to know how to attach them in a period manner. Did the Vikings loopty loop the belt after it went through the buckle? If not, how did they keep the belt end from hanging down showing the backside of the belt tip? how much exc...

InsaneIrish

well like many helms the Sallet went through an evolution. So, there really is no hard year(s) for the Sallet. The Sallet spanned centuries after it was introduced much like the greathelm. So, you probably need to pick a particular kind of Sallet. Open face, bevored, lobster tail, visored etc. To na...

InsaneIrish

But it's not a change. The SCA already requires "an attempt at pre-17th century clothing" for all its events. The question is whose job is it to enforce that requirement. Pig-Face, I know this isn't a popular sentiment, but I think that the modern sport of SCA fighting is one of the biggest things ...

InsaneIrish

There has been a long discussion on what is period and how it is and is not enforced or encouraged (this thread: http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=28170 ) and has led me to this thought: It is the Seneshal's job to see that the SCA and its participants are playing in a period m...

InsaneIrish

your going to play the "my gun is bigger/better than your gun" game with a midwest redneck from the U.S.

you might want to re-think that statement

now squeel like a pig for me

InsaneIrish

Damn Krag, that is one sexy seax. How much?

InsaneIrish

well I could just drive up to Canada and Stump Brake ya for the helm!

InsaneIrish

LOL,

yeah but I am back up with "barter" stuff as it is.

Ok time to re-rail the topic.

So, did vikings loopty loop the belt or not?

If not then what side of the belt did they fashoin the belt tip? front or back?

InsaneIrish

Your profile says independance MO. Guess what I live in Jefferson City MO. If a flogging is what you wish I would be more than happy to oblige. I suggest you go back to your LARP and Renfest stuff. I have not read one thing from you yet that brought anything positive to this board. Go Away TROLL.

InsaneIrish

Yes, what Broadway said. If you can not afford the raw material to play out game then you can't play. Stealing undermines the core of Chivalric code. Besides, street sign aluminum is heat tempered and damn hard to form without cracking. So, put the signs back, save up your money and buy proper mater...

InsaneIrish

those are sweet H,

but to much money for me right now. Raymond's were $30. Not $300

InsaneIrish

yeah but I am not in that one, so it don't count!

InsaneIrish

cool, I like the site.

If they didn't do the "loopty loop" then when the belt end it free it folds over to expose the back side of the belt. Or does the belt end go on the reverse of the belt to allow it to show when the belt folds over?

InsaneIrish

Since I have done this favor for you...
You must now do a favor for me...
That is the way it goes...
You must now sell me your Phrygian helm...
(in my best God Father Voice)

InsaneIrish

figures the pictures shows everyone EXCEPT Calontir

Nice picture though.

InsaneIrish

I just got a set of Raymond's Quiet Press viking belt fittings m item VB-345 my question(s) is did Viking belts have keepers? How did vikings fashion the belt fittings to the leather? Was it with rivets or sewn? did viking belts use the buckle and then have enough belt left over to loop under/over t...

InsaneIrish

master Andrixos sells them:
http://www.calontirtrim.com/

Or at least he did have some.
He also has a brass birka style lamellar suit.

Try him.

InsaneIrish

I don't know if I asked this before or not, but:

What are the specs on the sugerloaf Greathelm? The first helm in the helm section?

HOw much is it?

InsaneIrish

here is a re cap of the fort battle from a Calontiri point of view (not mine for I can not speak so elequently) Here will I begin to make such poor words as can describe the valor and glory of the Army of Calontir upon the field in these most recent troubles. The weather was splendid for the making ...

InsaneIrish

Animal I think you and I are saying the same thing. Kendo does focus on sword placement over force. But, if you increase the force with the strike, you can get SCA sufficient force behind your blows. And alot of kendo strikes cross over to SCA easily. As far as the boken, kendo stick, club etc. you ...

InsaneIrish

Two part answer: 1: Kendo is VERY useful in SCA combat. To a point. in other words, if you come from kendo you will have an advantage over most other new fighters and will probably have limited success and wins with the training. BUT, the kendo background will on HELP get you to the next level in SC...

InsaneIrish

Vitus has the jist of it Flonzy. The physics is that hitting with speed with rattan allows for a larger around striking surface that also gives upon impact. Hitting at speed with steel has a much smaller concentrated striking surface that does not give. Think of it this way. Take a peice of 14ga ste...

InsaneIrish

Flonzy, I went back and read all the posts again to make sure. "I" find it funny that only one post said anything to the fact that the SCA had Full speed fighting the rebated steel had 1/2 speed fighting. But I did read quite a few posts chastising the SCA for its constant claim of "being the only f...

InsaneIrish

Madyn I bought them off the Archive. I can't remember who was selling them, but I think they will work well after I get them sewn around the gloves.

InsaneIrish

Thank you splinter, You answered all of my questions or gave explaination as to why you didn't have answers to them. I am sorry if I came off as a nay sayer to your venture. As it looks this discussion has once again degenerated into a "SCA BAD" "LIVE STEEL GOOD" discussion. I do have some other que...

InsaneIrish

*sigh* Unfortunately they still look like hockey gloves. I have seen these before and they do protect well, but they still look modern. I bought a pair of chain gloves. You know the kind that butchers use? I plan on attaching them to leather gloves for when I use a 1/2 gaunt. It should really cut d...

InsaneIrish

To answer your question Grendal. NO, Rattan is the only legal way to make a list legal weapon.

What "other" types of stuff did you have in mind and why?
just curious.

InsaneIrish

Gruber Stephan de Valcerre No one is thinking that the SCA is the only un-choriograhed game in town. BUT, from what splinter has described, he wants "knights" in armour doing full on no holds barred fight to the "death" type fighting. NO game in town does that because it is to dangerous. Many posts ...

InsaneIrish

I didn't think Live steel allowed head shots?

InsaneIrish

Grendal,

is there a specific reason why you don't want to use rattan?

InsaneIrish

yes, yes, pics yes. I would love to see pics of the gauntlets in use. I have been debating over Clang's gaunts for a long time. They are non period for my time period (10th cent Irish) BUT they didn't wear gaunts at that time. AND Clang's gaunts are PERFECT for my Landsknect rig. I am just very skid...

InsaneIrish

how thick OZ. of leather did you use? It looks like suede, is it? Did you have any problems lacing the leather to the lammallar?

InsaneIrish

Unfortunately, you will pretty much only get "best guess" documentation. Since the longevity of leather is pretty poor when left out in the weather, we have no extant examples of it. Although by 1350 I would think that for someone to be using leather they would have had to be rather poor and not abl...

InsaneIrish

How much for the Sugerloaf Greathelm? Is it SCA legal?

InsaneIrish

splinter wrote:For those of you that want to compete, I encourage you to email me. I am looking for knights that want to fight.

So.... I ask once again, what are you concidering a "knight"

Re: Formal Level of Authenticity for SCA

viking belt fittings?

Re: Concept