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Templar Bob/De Tyre

Gocin: I agree, the articulated elbow is pretty simple, basic articulation. However , I count no less than twelve lames on the inner portion of the elbow joint. In order to give a full range of motion to the inner part of the elbow, I think it almost has to have some form of sliding rivets for it to...

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Another consideration is what time period you're looking at. Plus, you need to differentiate between Anchorites (meaning members of a religious order that have a vow of stability--the proper term for monks in a convent) and Friars (those who are brothers, but may travel). The oldest monastic ...

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Gocin: I'm wagering a combination of sliding-rivets and internal leathers is what makes this armour work. Sliding-rivets would allow the arm to twist on its axis, as it were. They would also allow movement on the inner elbow, where leathers would make movement difficult due to the bulk of the leather.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Wulfgar Davinsson: OOOOHHH! A Persian Klibanarium... full gear.. now THAT would be something to see on the field... Kudos to the first person to pull that off properly... hm...

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BTW, GlenK/Steve: I have one of the Indian riveted maille shirts and chausses. While it ain't Forth Armoury quality, it's what I have now . Would it be acceptable until I get better? ------------------ Robert Coleman, Jr. We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to ...

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GlenK/Steve SoFC: I've not dropped off the face of the earth. I just don't believe that my kit is up to proper "Novae Militiae" standard...yet. I simply want my equipment to be items that can be documented to 12th-13th century Palestine, and to fit the Rule's criteria on proper equipment. I actually...

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When I first read that passage, I thought Friar Carpini was referring to laminated leather, similar to a lorica segmentata ...but the more I read, I believed that this must be a description of rows of lamellar. The description of the articulation is what convinced me, and the description of cord lac...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Broadway: Help me out... Just how much plate armour can you get away with below the Great Helm and remain authentic in nature? Help me out here... Pics, descriptions, refere...

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FitzBastian: The First and Second Crusade period (circa 1097 through 1120) was a time period that no recognizeable hand armour was worn that we know of, particularly an articulating gauntlet. Such hand armour is a post 1350â€™s innovation, limited to Western Europe. The earliest known form of...

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Ouch...

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Hush and I were discussing this a bit this morning. It sounds to us that there isn't enough room in the sleeve to allow for the strain caused by bending the elbow.

For the nonce, perhaps a leather patch?

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Edwin: From what I can tell (and you can see this in some of the photos), Bogei's lamellar only uses on suspension cord, knotted behind the plate to keep it from slipping. I perfer doubling my cords and knotting them behind--there is less chance of breakage this way. While it uses more cord, you hav...

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Andy Goddard from Circa 1265 uses table-woven trim for his...check his page, where he says: The drawstring in my braies is simply a long piece of tablet-woven braid, made into a circular section by passing the weft the same direction through the shed during manu...

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Here it is, folks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2515197279&category=25278

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Russ: This particular suit is Bogei's creation...which is why I'm dying to get in touch with her again to get more pictures of this one in daylight...plus, I want to get details on the lacing pattern, the different types of lamellae, et al. Her attempt has inspired me to build another coat of lamel...

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<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%"><tr><td valign=top>As promised, here are pictures of Bogei Timurâ€™s lamellar. I must apologize for the poor quality of the photographsâ€”I had quite a bit of trouble with the lighting, and the detail shots I took of this armour did not...

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Gruber:

Welcome to the Archive!

Steve (SofFC):

Gruber is part of my knight's household, and makes amazing stuff, bordering on museum-quality! You can't go wrong ordering from him.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by edward atte flynt: There is an account of a Norman being pinned to his horse by arrows shot from a Welsh Longbow. I don't know the primary source but it's mentioned in Hardy...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bojei Temur: T-Bob, POD - you two really know how to make a girl blush - thanks for the compliments. I've had quite a few work deadlines plus I'm running the feast at a mong...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ian Glenagary: Templar Bob, How do you tie off the ends of the maxi-cord? Do you just end up with a bunch of knots inside the armour or what? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I tie a k...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ushumgal: I don't recall where I asked this (I don't think it was here) but I had been wondering what gauge of aluminum to use for the lamellar harness I am going to make. S...

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Ooooh...armourcake...

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Gentlemen:

For a further discussion on the subject, go to Edwin's page, My new klibanion, rough draft, or join in the discussion on his Armour Archive thread (same title), located here.

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Edwin: For the purposes of experimentation, I like what you have have so far. Your material being aluminum and Maxi-CordÂ®â„¢ is immaterial when trying to work out the details of assembly and figuring out how the whole comes together. At this stage of the experiment, working out the details of form ...

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Warclub: My rule of thumb: ⋅ Measure the distance from your navel to your spine. Lace enough lamellar in a row to make that distance, plus one lamellae. This will make allowance for padding. ⋅ Make four rows of lamellar just like that . ⋅ Now, lace four more rows...

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Yes.

I mean, how hard is it to glue some light leather or canvas/trigger on plastic armour, anyway?

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Your Majesty:

Hooah from T-Bob and Hush! Give 'em hell!

(Well, we're Army)

Templar Bob/De Tyre

Lord Dietrich: If I may suggest it--you might want to purchase some of the "Rough From the Hammer" to form your torso pieces, as well as cops for knees, elbows and spaulders. These would be useful in the shaping of your merchandise, thereby allowing it to be like period armour in both form and funct...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by sarnac: D'OH!! "one of the Archivers who used to post here quite a lot built herself a stainless lamellar djawshan (I'm using the Arabic name, because I don't remember the ...

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Dark Victory: The trick you need to know about dealing with "The Bleachery" (as Aurora Textiles used to be called) is that it's best to have someone to just go up there with about fifty to a hundred bucks or so, tell them what you want; in what color; and how much. Give them alternate selections jus...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dark Victory Armory: Would you or someone nearby Aurora be interested in acting as my purchasing agent? Canvas cloth hereabouts is MUCH more expensive! <HR></BLOC...

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Sarnac Khan:

Bojei Temur. That's who it was.

I'm not sure how to contact her, but I'll check a couple of leads out...

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Dmitry:

Is that lamellar djawshan shown with the lacing/backing material partially intact, or am I misreading the text somehow?

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by sarnac: T-bob...do you have any info on that...or pics...OR could you point me in the direction of the person who did it?? Maybe pass on my email so I could pick their brain...

Yet another Beverly #3 on E-Bay!

Bogei Timur's Lamellar-as promised (pics)