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by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LR of E: Yes, are there any extant pieces, period for the SCA, still laced together with their original lacing material? In conversations with Duke Cariadoc he led me to believ...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:34 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

Clay: You'll remember when you camped with us at Pennsic, right? (BTW, Dagan and Mika say "Hi!") Well, one of the Archivers who used to post here quite a lot built herself a stainless lamellar djawshan (I'm using the Arabic name, because I don't remember the proper Mongol one) in a Mongolian style. ...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:25 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LR of E: T-Bob, are there any plates still laced together with its original lacing anywhere?? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Do you mean extant pieces from the medieval period? What ...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:09 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by David Blackmane: <B>As a side note, where do you get your plates T-Bob, and what material are they made of? Mine are the Birka plates from the order from several years ago made...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ushumgal: <B>...the horizontal bands of lames in the skirts are hung loosely from each other, so they articulate easily, but on the torso, they are laced together pretty rigidl...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:35 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

Another note: 1. Hole size makes a difference. My lamellae use a 9/32" hole for lacing--the larger the hole, the less pressure on the lacing-cord. I hasten to point out that my lamellae aren't a period size--and neither are the holes that are punched in them. 2. Lamellar requires constant maintenanc...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:27 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ushumgal: <B>Thanks for the image! It illustrates what I was asking well. The bands of lames in the shoulder guards in that picture are hung from eachother in such a way that t...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:58 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

Gentlemen: Please take note of the two photographs below (Taken from a Barony of Sternfeld Baronial Champions Tournament some years back). They’re pictures of me, and other people in the local SCA group who have lamellar either made by me, or with instructions I’d given them: http://home.armoura...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:21 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by David Blackmane: <B>It also depends on the overlap. T-Bob overlaps his with the overlap ascending, while mine is laced descending. That changes the over all performance and fun...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:20 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

I've built dozens of these suits over the past fifteen years, plus I've spent years researching how the original Turkish, Chinese and Tibetan suits were built. Form is a consideration, but function is as well. What you want out of these suits is an armour that won't bind you up, that will allow you ...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:55 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How tight should my lamellar be laced?
Replies: 60
Views: 86

Clay: Lace the horizontal rows tightly to make the individual rows a more rigid defense. Lace the vertical rows loosely to allow for some measure of articulation. This will also aid in absorbing the force of blows on the skirt-plates. My lamellar article deals with these issues to some degree. Go pr...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:17 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Atlantia No Visible Plastic Rule?
Replies: 124
Views: 53

You can fix this kit fairly cheaply. Your Dark Victory breastplate can be made into a Visby coat of plates, using simple 10d nails and washers, plus a hacksaw or snips to cut the plastic to pattern. Fabric can be gotten from heavy cotton curtains from Goodwill or some comparable thrift store. The wh...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:03 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Archeo evidence for Norman "Phrygian"?
Replies: 9
Views: 24

To my knowledge, there are no extant examples of a Phrygian type helmet made from a single worked bowl. I did remember seeing a two-piece "spangen" variety of this helmet style in a drawing once. Let me do some digging...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:54 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sweat pants, jeans, hose, leggings, etc...
Replies: 29
Views: 34

Broadway: For the first ten years I fought, I fought in sweat-pants, with a muslin tunic. Jerzees™ ® are the best brand out there, but IMHO, a pair bought from Sears is just as durable as a pair bought from Dollar General. A fairly decent pair can last you about three years of constant, heavy use...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:27 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] some armour and fighting pictures
Replies: 11
Views: 8

Shamey:

Just send an e-mail to JT...he'll set it all up for you.
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:04 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] some armour and fighting pictures
Replies: 11
Views: 8

Shamey:

Why not simply get a page on the Armour Archive?
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Atlantia No Visible Plastic Rule?
Replies: 124
Views: 53

Time to nod in on this subject: I don’t quite understand what the big expense question is. With a little research, one can have decent looking plastic kit covered in fabric or leather, and not look like an extra in a Mad Max movie. Here in the Middle Kingdom, there’s a place in Illinois called t...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sat Feb 08, 2003 12:56 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What's the secret to being a squire?
Replies: 56
Views: 55

Trystan: Several people on this list have discussed their ideas of squiring in depth. Though some of the answers are divergent, they have a common theme. You need to remember that being a squire is an apprenticeship relationship---you are endeavoring to learn the trade of knighthood . I think your a...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Mon Dec 30, 2002 12:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Problem With Archers?
Replies: 157
Views: 87

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vermin: <B>Actually, T-Bob, I wasn't being sarcastic. I honestly WAS thanking you for backing up your view with some relevant info......I guess it just came across badly. My si...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Mon Dec 30, 2002 11:12 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Problem With Archers?
Replies: 157
Views: 87

Vermin: With all due respect...sarcasm truly wasn't necessary in your response. Simply stating your disagreement would have been sufficient (and, by the way, more courteous). OTOH, Cheval was specific in what he wanted. I simply gave an historical example of archery defeating maille, as he requested...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:54 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Problem With Archers?
Replies: 157
Views: 87

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Originally posted by cheval: Some time ago I issued a challenge to anyone who could provide evidence of a mail-clad warrior being impaled by an opponent wielding a madu. After nearly five years, t...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Thu Dec 19, 2002 5:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm... does any have this pattern & what is the correct nam
Replies: 69
Views: 109

http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/bump.gif for John Paul de Sens (and the helm he designed). ...because 12th-13th century armourers need love too! ------------------ Robert Coleman, Jr. "Hey, guys---these gauntlets have <u>fingernails</u>!! The Noble Companie and Order of Saint Maurice [This message...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Thu Dec 19, 2002 5:47 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Back in the shop *pics*
Replies: 15
Views: 14

Clay:

The Gorelik helm pattern arrived today. Thanks!

------------------
Robert Coleman, Jr.

"Hey, guys---these gauntlets have <u>fingernails</u>!!

The Noble Companie and Order of Saint Maurice

[This message has been edited by Templar Bob/De Tyre (edited 12-19-2002).]
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:40 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: lamalar and shoulder protection
Replies: 5
Views: 17

Adric: I'm not sure what a "Generi-Celt" would wear, but the standard Eastern solution (at least in Central Asia) would be to go with a "sleeve flap" style defense, as pictured below. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/de_tyre/lamellar/lam4.jpg But if you're going for a pre-migration "Roman" look...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Thu Dec 12, 2002 7:16 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Gauntlets-Disappearing thread
Replies: 6
Views: 6

Don't know what happened to the thread, but the link to the auction is here.

By the time I had last read it, people determined that the seller was not GauntletGuy.
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: New Spaulder (pic)
Replies: 4
Views: 9

Image

Wolf:

Figured I'd post it for you.

I hope it's not a problem...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:09 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Helm... does any have this pattern & what is the correct nam
Replies: 69
Views: 109

Looks like the subject is a pretty big boy! http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif ⋅ The scalloped tabs for the cap portion of the helm looks good. ⋅ Do you plan on putting a reinforcement on the ocularium? If so, will it be of steel or decorative brass? ⋅ Are you g...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:16 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Spoked wheel pavillions, anyone make and sell them?
Replies: 4
Views: 8

ADDENDUM:

You may want to do a private enquiry with the folks at Panther Primitives. They had a prototype of the "spoked-wheel" style pavilion on display at Pennsic, and they did quite a good job on it. The Darbys (who own Panther) plan on adding this design to their inventory.
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Fri Dec 06, 2002 6:37 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What time period is the "Phrygian helm"?
Replies: 9
Views: 50

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Thomas of Tadcaster: In Arms and Armor of the Crusading Era:Western Europe there is a drawing of a knight from southern Italy (p.490 #690x) dated late 12th century. Shows a Phr...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Dec 03, 2002 11:16 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Transporting Armour (SCA)
Replies: 10
Views: 20

Apollonia: I intend to have Bascot build an armour chest for me, large enough to fit my maille, scale-shirt, aketon and helm (with the assorted smaller bits of armour tucked in neatly) that is also long enough for my scabbarded sword. It will be of white oak, and have rings on the ends so that two p...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:40 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: More woodwork by Bascot-a seat chest for Hushgirl
Replies: 16
Views: 13

More woodwork by Bascot-a seat chest for Hushgirl

http://home.armourarchive.org/members/de_tyre/Furniture/Dec01415.JPG This is one of several pictures of a seat chest that Bascot built for me as a present to Hushgirl for Christmas. I wanted something that she could store things in while we were camping so the table in our pavilion wouldn't be so c...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Thu Nov 28, 2002 7:36 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Alternative COP designs
Replies: 23
Views: 36

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Richard de Scolay: <B>Can anyone tell me more about this pattern? Does the Wisby book have any info on this style? </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Richard: It's Armour 21 from the...
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:03 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Teaching them right
Replies: 13
Views: 6

Awwww....how Kyooooot!

------------------
Robert Coleman, Jr.

"Hey, guys---these gauntlets have <u>fingernails</u>!!

The Noble Companie and Order of Saint Maurice

[This message has been edited by Templar Bob/De Tyre (edited 11-20-2002).]
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:42 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Crusader era armour
Replies: 37
Views: 167

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Prince Of Darkmoor: <B> Helm: Sugarloaf or barrel helm - haven't decided which. I've already got a greathelm I could use but I reeeealy like the way a sugarloaf looks.</B></fon...