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Karen Larsdatter

You might also find the Historic-HornAntlerBone Mailing List to be a good resource; there's some links at http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... &catid=534 too.

Karen Larsdatter

MJBlazek wrote:I was trying to think of lesser used charges...I thought the garbs may be..
I am also thinking ...

Rabbits
Beehives
Squirells
Ducks

Anybody know how well used those are?

Sure! You can look 'em up in the OandA; here's some direct links:

Garb
Rabbit
Beehive
Squirrel
Ducks

Karen Larsdatter

The use of the word "kirtle" seems to have evolved, in terms of precisely which sort of garment it means (and whether it's a word for a man's garment or a woman's) in the 14th and 15th centuries. Rather than re-bloviate, I'll just post a link to where I've yammered about this before -- m (about midw...

Karen Larsdatter

City of God seems to have been moved, so I couldn't take a look. Bummer. Go to m and click on BOOK VII . Have you found the hula skirt in any ordinary, everyday, secular, not weird setting? Again ... I've only found it in these three French manuscripts from the late 15th century (the City of God at...

Karen Larsdatter

Now I don't know about you, but Saturn and Juno have never appeared when I've have sex, so I have to assume there is something allegorical or supernatural about the image. Maybe it's the moment of conception of a saint? No, it's far more generic; in this section, St. Augustine is just describing th...

Karen Larsdatter

The last 3 images didn't come up, but I take your point. Unless you can find some on non-saints, I'd say there's a stong case for the white hula skirt to be a female saint specific garment. Ah -- wasn't sure if I'd made that clear -- this chick is no saint. The long and short of it is that I've see...

Karen Larsdatter

Do you have info on who the couple is supposed to be? The full caption for that illustration is: "Woman in bed; naked couple embracing; Janus appears first at the moment of conception, after the tasks are divided among deities; between them Saturn and Juno (background)." The culotte-linens seem to ...

Karen Larsdatter

Azure, a bear argent engorged of a broken crown Or.

(since the crown is around his neck)

Karen Larsdatter

IIRC, there's some additional references to a linen undergarment (apparently something like braies) worn by a young woman described in the Cathar heresy trials, but there's a few pictures of a skirt-like (or perhaps more like culottes?) linen undergarment in some 15th century illustrations ... I've ...

Karen Larsdatter

http://jauncourt.i8.com/patterns.htm (bottom of page)
http://jauncourt.i8.com/mantle.htm
http://www.feoragdubh.eastkingdom.org/N ... cloaks.htm

Karen Larsdatter

Check out the English, Old English, and Anglo-Norman Names section of the Medieval Names Archive . One would not have to be the lord of a locality in order to use a locative surname. It just says that you are from that place (or that an ancestor was, of course). There are four main groups to English...

Karen Larsdatter

Locallish events coming up in April: See the Atlantian Calendar of Events . I suspect you'll see more Armour Archive members at Coronation and The Tournament of Chivalry . (There'll also be a demo on April 1 closer to DC; it's in conjunction with an early music group, Hesperus .) Not a whole lot of ...

Karen Larsdatter

Some links:
14th Century Clothing (especially the stuff based on the Manesse Codex in Das Frauengewand)
Beginners & Newcomers' Guides to Garb Making (especially Practical Worksheet for Tunic Construction and Your First Garb)

Karen Larsdatter

Check out the links at http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... &catid=312 -- especially 14th Century Sewing & Textile Information.

Karen Larsdatter

The links at http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... t&catid=73 may help you, but you might also want to join the Known World Medieval Encampment Guild mailing list.

Karen Larsdatter

Linen doublet from the Reigate cache, early 17th century

Some embroidered doublets, like the ones at http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/17thc/doublet.html and http://www.manchestergalleries.org/html ... ction.html

Karen Larsdatter

It's not a whole lot more information, but there's a color photo of it at http://www.dresden-und-sachsen.de/dresd ... er_bsp.htm

Karen Larsdatter

You know, I realize this won't answer your questions, but there are some good photos at m of European re-enactment groups, and a few pictures at an event with an interesting interpretation of a medieval tournament-gallery. Can't remember where exactly I'd seen it, but it's gotta be there somewhere ....

Karen Larsdatter

Although, keeping the front relatively big & loose allows the recipient to fold the face-edge back to fit -- here's some 14th century examples demonstrating what I mean:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/image?L=08100139&I=000141
http://www.nla.gov.au/worldtreasures/ht ... _rose.html
http://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/pimage?46026+0+2

Karen Larsdatter

Hey Karen I think he means a hood with a liripipe coming out the back. Oh. In that case, the earliest ones I know of are from the 13th century (like this one in the Psalter of St. Louis ) -- but that doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't exist earlier than that, just that it's the earliest one ...

Karen Larsdatter

Whats the earliest date anybodys got on the liripipe? Depends on what exactly you mean by a "liripipe." The oldest hood I know of is the Orkney Hood , and the earliest I've seen hoods worn with the face-opening somewhere other than the face would be Der tugendhafte Schreiber in the Manesse Codex (c...

Karen Larsdatter

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Romance of Alexander (Bodl. 264, fol. 117v)[/url], c. 1338-44

Karen Larsdatter

Yes, but in some kingdoms you will never get an award (or an award scroll, or fight in a crown list) unless you have OFFICIAL heraldry. Really? Which kingdoms are those? Not being snarky, I am really interested in knowing which kingdoms require registered heraldry to recieve awards or fight in crow...

Karen Larsdatter

Some potentially-useful links sections for you: Examples of 14th century calligraphy and illumination Calligraphy & paleography and exemplars Beginners' guides to scribal arts Styles & techniques Scribal tools Much agreed with the recommendation for Harris' Art of Calligraphy -- it's got good step-b...

Karen Larsdatter

Wolf wrote:wait, if he's doing viking and kinda historically knowledged... why is he using linen for pants?

Maybe he'd read about the linen pants at Birka?

Karen Larsdatter

Halvgrim, I have a mate who has a facsimile copy of the Romance of Alexander. I might be able to persuade him to scan a few frames from it (be aware the book is completely full of illustrations, and is about 3 inches thick!). I think the Romance of Alexander your friend has is probably Bodleian MS ...

Karen Larsdatter

Halvgrim wrote:wall-paintings, byzantine 14th C, in situ Ag. Nikolaos Orfanos, Thessaloniki

http://www.nyloo.com/html/ent/141/ent.29141.1.asp

Halvgrim wrote:wall-paintings, Serbian 1338-50, in situ Monastery Church, Decani

http://www.kosovo.com/dec_frescoes.html

Halvgrim wrote:St. George wall-painting, 14th C, in situ Ch. of Panagi Phorbiotissa, Asinou, Cyprus

http://www.visitcyprus.org.cy/ctoweb/CT ... enDocument

Karen Larsdatter

A bit later than what you're looking for, but I thought you might be interested in these: A pair of 16th century heraldically-painted (?) bucklers c. 1550-1580: m m The back of an undated round shield: m There's also a simple leather buckler with a small photo and brief description at m -- doesn't s...

Karen Larsdatter

Well crud...I didnt know Richard III had used it.....its what I wanted I don't think it'd conflict with Richard's badge; I honestly figured you were asking a trick question. But of course I shoudl have figured somethign so simple would have been used somewhere..... Again, talk with your local heral...

Karen Larsdatter

Anybody know of the use of a silver boar on a red or maroon background? Is this a trick question? Is the answer you're looking for "Richard III"? (Technically, his badge was just the passant boar argent, fieldless.) Gules, a boar passant argent is attributed to Boor or Boar. The closest thing I can...

Karen Larsdatter

It might work. But it'd be incredibly busy-looking, and have a lengthy blazon. I'd really recommend talking to a herald in your local area -- have you met Lord Michel von SchÃƒÂ¶nsee? He's your barony's herald. The Atlantian College of Heralds periodically has information tables at events -- I suspe...

Karen Larsdatter

In addition to James' suggestion of serging, the quality of the linen can also be an issue. I have linen garments that I've been wearing at events of one sort or another for 15-20 years, made of good linen; but I've had stuff made from $1/yard "specials" darned near dissolve in the wash.

Karen Larsdatter

what does the term bumpity mean exactly? It's kind of a cutesy nickname that SCA heralds apply to a variety of heraldic lines (aka "complex lines of division"), including indented, dancetty, rayonny, wavy, engrailed, invected, nebuly, potenty, embattled, raguly, and dovetailed. (I'm sure there's a ...

Karen Larsdatter

I suspect that the design would bounce because it resembles "marshalled" armory -- see Argent Snail's Armory Insta-Boing Check List.

Karen Larsdatter

I can't remember who wanted to see this when it was done, but I think it was someone on the Armour Archive ... in any case, you will all be subjected to the cuteness that is ... Baby Tommy's Bibbard.

[img]http://www.jordbaer.com/bibbard/tommysbibbard.jpg[/img]

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Re: Wanted: Something to do in the DC area during April

Re: Looking for patterns for womens garb

Re: Historical Stitches

Re: Elizabethan Doublet... linen?

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Baby Tommy's Bibbard