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Karen Larsdatter

We use a slightly later style of scrip (more rectangular than the Maciejowski trapezoid-shaped satchel) -- but the flap tends to stay down once it's down -- no weights or mechanical foofarah necessary. I don't know if it's a factor of the different shape, or if it has to do with the different materi...

Karen Larsdatter

Daughter of Lars, you may of just made a sale. Knowing us boys, we have to take care of the shiny bits first, but once I finish re-aquiring all my armour, I shall call on you for your services. Such helpfulness, shows a class and quality that I should like to do business with someday. Thank you. Yo...

Karen Larsdatter

You're welcome! There are other embroidery styles I'd go with for the badge you describe (if you were to want to go with embroidery for that sort of project in the first place); I'd probably do the card-pique as a plain appliquÃƒÂ© (probably a piece of black velvet), and then embroider the detail li...

Karen Larsdatter

Sure! Lots of examples of this. Banners: Banner for the city of Ghent , painted in tempera on linen, c. 1375 Banner with three crowns , mid-15th century Banner with double-headed eagle , ca. 1500 See also m for additional notes on extant banners and their construction. Tabards: Most of the extant he...

Karen Larsdatter

Lyre construction links: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... &catid=649

Another Viking-era musical instrument: the Jorvik panpipes.

You might also want to read about Viking musical instruments, authentic Viking music, and music and verse in Anglo-Saxon and Viking times.

Karen Larsdatter

what era is represented in the mac bible pics. Well, the correct-yet-smartassy answer to this question is that they're representing life in Biblical times, from Creation onward. Is that what you mean? No, I guess not. It was actually illustrated some time around the middle of the 13th century; some...

Karen Larsdatter

You might also enjoy (available from Interlibrary Loan) Chaucer and Costume: The Secular Pilgrims in the General Prologue, by Laura F. Hodges, which compares various interpretations of the Knight. It's an interesting read, but a little more dry & academic than Terry Jones.

Karen Larsdatter

Do you think that will be sufficient for Conan though? Yep; should be. I'd recommend attaching a hard copy (printout) of where you'd found it, and highlighting the relevant bits, and attaching that to each copy of the submission form that you submit. I suspect mac Dubhghaill is pronounced roughly t...

Karen Larsdatter

*is this the only way people have postulated to make such a neckline? There haven't been an overabundance of postulations on this particular garment, but for similar sorts of necklines (in terms of the slanted/side-opening) in different treatments, you could also look at some of the Mongolian and C...

Karen Larsdatter

There's even a section of the links site that's just Hundred Years War groups, btw: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... catid=1086

Karen Larsdatter

Well, spelling does become an issue, actually (since, with Gaelic, you have to worry about a funkiness known as lenition ) ... but I'd recommend indicating on your submission form that you are okay with the College of Heralds correcting the spelling for historical accuracy, but keeping the pronuncia...

Karen Larsdatter

You can find some of the illustrations at http://classes.bnf.fr/phebus/ -- and I think you'll find all of the illustrations at http://gallica.bnf.fr/notice?N=MAN01046 too.

Karen Larsdatter

Well, it's only been a week

but I've gone ahead and set up a website for the embroidery design business -- http://www.jordbaer.com

Now -- let's see if this new sig line works, huh?

Karen Larsdatter

Looks nifty! What kind of fabric is it? I'm glad to see the particolor is done "right"! I don't know if you've seen m but it has some similar styles there. What sort of collar are you planning to use? The last time I did this style for a men's garment, I used the high collar in Thursfield's Medieval...

Karen Larsdatter

One "M" leads to another!

Millicent (MelanieC here on the Armour Archive) requested an illuminated "M" in blue, with her heraldic badge.

Karen Larsdatter

Some more articles & websites ...

Costume in Christian Spain: Visigothic through 10th Century
Spain, the Early Years: Costume of the Visigoths, Mozarabes, and the Northern Christian Kingdoms
Visigothic Jewelry

Karen Larsdatter

There's not a whole lot of evidence of earrings in the 14th and early 15th centuries; it looks like it was fashionable in some cultures up to about the 10th century, and then it seems to become fashionable again in the first half of the 16th century. That being said ... there is a sketch of Agnes So...

Karen Larsdatter

'cos I did two patterns today! I'm still waiting for feedback on one of 'em, but got the go-ahead on the other, and the client said I could post the preview. The client requested a letter "M," with Celtic knotwork and some carnations and an Elizabethan feel. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/Str...

Karen Larsdatter

The instructions I'd used to teach myself fingerloop braiding are at http://www.thirteenthcentury.com/pages/braiding01.html (keep hitting "next" to go through the instructions)

Karen Larsdatter

because you want to see the preview from a pattern I finished this evening:

Karen Larsdatter

WOW they look gorgeous would somethng like have interoperability to say an embroidery cable sewing machine? Thanks, Malcolm! It could, theoretically, be convertable to an embroidery machine. However, I presently lack the software to be able to do so myself. However, if this little home business doe...

Karen Larsdatter

Any idea's on the price range, size of piece offered? The rough pricing structure I'm looking at is $20 for small patterns (smaller than about 40x40, which comes out to about 2Ã‚Â¾"x2Ã‚Â¾" on 14-count fabric), $40 for medium-sized patterns (up to about 80x80, which comes to about 5Ã‚Â¾"x5Ã‚Â¾" on 1...

Karen Larsdatter

Have been doing some more designs ... but rather than bore y'all with posting here every single time I come up with something new, just go directly to http://strawberrykaren.livejournal.com/tag/jordbaer to see the latest & greatest.

Send me an email or a PM if you'd like a design done up. I'll be setting up a website for the design business soon!

Karen Larsdatter

As for what material the original was, I can only surmise it's some sort of bent metal rod, or possibly wood, or maybe even cuir bouillied leather (though I imagine that would weaken quickly). I'd guess bronze for this sort of thing. (Or, more generically, a copper alloy of some sort.) (Been doing ...

Karen Larsdatter

Teffania, I think they're suggesting that you make the gardecorps so that there's a seam down the middle, and that the neckline is cut with an extra flappy bit on one side (that's overlapping the fabric on the other side), if that makes sense.

Karen Larsdatter

Robert Consul, Earl of Gloucester (d. 1147)
Eleanor of Aquitaine (d. 1204)
Berengaria (d. 1230)
Isabella of Angouleme (d. 1246)

Additional 13th century women:
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... otm4va.gif
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... otm7va.gif
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... otm9rc.gif
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... tm13vb.gif
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... tm15rc.gif
http://baronmorgan.gallowglass.org/arti ... cmat03.gif
http://www.wga.hu/art/zgothic/gothic/2/ ... aumb02.jpg
http://www.wga.hu/art/zgothic/gothic/2/ ... aumb04.jpg

Karen Larsdatter

These are mostly later examples ...
http://www.pbase.com/image/1777972
http://www.exeter.gov.uk/timetrail/07_m ... toref=7_84
http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/O0002417.html
http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/O0002409.html
http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/O0002564.html
http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compa ... id=OBJ3707
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item1/25921
http://www.greydragon.org/trips/Paris%2 ... age036.jpg
http://www.ulstermuseum.org.uk/tours/?tv=31&pg=10
http://www.dur.ac.uk/fulling.mill/en/artefact.php?id=12
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07909f01a.jpg

(You want some medieval illustrations, or just extant examples?)

Karen Larsdatter

Well; again, it's hard to say. There was an interesting bit in -- darnit, which Laura Hodges book was I reading? -- but it was talking about fur-lined garments, and how there's plenty of sumptuary law that dictates who wears which garments, but there's overwhelming evidence that (at least in the 14t...

Karen Larsdatter

Fur for kings and other ranking nobles, but for us that don't want to be kings or nobles ... a contrasting cloth.... Right? It's not so much "kings and nobles" -- it can be either a main character in the narrative, or some dude off to the side. ( Jacob and Lot aren't noblemen. I assume that the man...

Karen Larsdatter

The Early Middle Ages go from roughly the 5th-10th centuries; the High Middle Ages are 11th-13th centuries; the 14th and 15th centuries are the Late Middle Ages. (But then and again, it's not like they decided on January 1, 1000, "You know what? We're still in the Middle Ages, since Rome fell centur...

Karen Larsdatter

were you trying to make a point wih posting them? If so I think I missed it.... The point I was trying to make is that I really have no desire to start doing any housecleaning yet this morning! So there! And -- and -- and -- if I have to invent a little make-work project for myself ... so be it! Mo...

Karen Larsdatter

Figured it might be amusing to go through one of the online collections of images from the Maciejowski Bible look for some additional examples ... Clearly lined with fur Lot among the Sodomites The destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah Jacob talks with Laban Boaz and Ruth Hannah offers Samuel Samuel anoin...

Karen Larsdatter

All of the examples on that site seemed to have a cloth lining... No fur... I'd interpret these two as definitely being fur linings: m (at right) m In a lot of the other illustrations, there's at least a hint of a white lining (though it may just be a stylistic sort of thing, since white is used fo...

Karen Larsdatter

I think most of the images of this style of gown, at least in the Maciejowski Bible, seem to show a white fur lining, at least where enough of the garment is drawn to see the lining ... see http://www.companyofoutremer.com/gardecorps.htm for some additional examples.

Karen Larsdatter

Some additional costrels in artwork (15th century):
http://expositions.bnf.fr/gastro/grands/116.htm
http://gallica.bnf.fr/image?L=07827186&I=000001
http://www.wga.hu/html/g/goes/calvary/calvar11.html

Related links:
http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... &catid=532

Re: Maciejowski Pouch/Purse

Re: Painting on fabric? Period? Possible?

Re: mac bible

Re: Chaucer's Knight

Re: Custom heraldic embroidery patterns

Re: Houppelande in the making

Re: Visigothic Garb help needed

Re: Earrings in the late 14th - early 15th century

Custom heraldic embroidery patterns

Re: neckline on gardecorps

Re: Neck brooches..