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by Karen Larsdatter
Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:34 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Sword & Garb: SCA Knighting Ceremony [15th C Britain]
Replies: 16
Views: 554

Re: Sword & Garb: SCA Knighting Ceremony [15th C Britain

You might want to check out http://larsdatter.com/knighting.htm for images of 14th and 15th century knighting ceremonies; they show various styles of clothing being worn by the new knights, and perhaps one of the illustrations there will inspire you for your own ceremony.
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:25 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Resources for colored illuminated initials
Replies: 3
Views: 128

Re: Resources for colored illuminated initials

I like using the Dover clipart sets. (Several of them have full alphabets, and/or alphabets from different styles or time periods.)

Here's some to look for:
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:09 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

8) W00t! :lol:
by Karen Larsdatter
Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:42 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Painted helms? Pics, evidence, inspiration?
Replies: 21
Views: 741

JoJo Zerach wrote:I think most peopel are way to conservative here, and unwilling to try something because they're afraid it might not be historical.
Just go wild with the paint!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/276421/ :?:
by Karen Larsdatter
Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:17 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

AriAnson wrote:Hadrianfordbergwoodchestershire
Isn't that a kind of cheese? :lol:
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:57 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Some of these are English place-names, so you could also (in theory, I think) stick with a Middle English spelling of the place-name -- for example, Apiltone for Appleton; Wassingeton for Washington, Somervila for Summerville; Witefelde or Whytefeld for Whitefield; Egghacombe or Egecom for Edgecombe...
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:37 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

"Waldoboro" (which apparently was actually named for Brigadier-General Samuel Waldo) suggests another possible route -- using the Old English words wald ('a forest') + burh ('a fort'). I think I'd discussed some of the modern descendants of burh upthread (including -burgh and -borough and ...
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:35 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Having studied a little Old English (Anglo-Saxon) Karen, while you are correct in "elements" of the language, I think you would be incorrect in the application of "stan" (or ston) & "land" (or lond), making for "Stanland," of the "Stone Land." T...
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:03 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Yep. Or solicit ideas for what you want the group's name to mean, since the overall sense of group persona is bound to change over time. I tend to gear towards English-language place-names, anyway, because for the most part, the SCA's membership in the U.S. -- as well as the demographic the SCA tend...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:35 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Re: SCA Need a New Shire Name

(Yep, still awake, but just for a little while.) A more historically-accurate name-element that means roughly the same thing you mean by 'Keep' might be ward , 'A guarded or fortified area, stronghold; a guarded or secured section of a castle.' Some Middle English place-names where this comes up: Wa...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:16 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Soap Making????
Replies: 7
Views: 171

Re: Soap Making????

The links at http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/i ... t&catid=75 might be a good place for you to start.

There's a bunch of 18th century soap recipes at http://larsdatter.com/18c/soap.html too.
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:00 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Looking at your group's website for some other possibilities. One of the cities in your group is Rockland; if we looked at this etymologically, we'd be looking at the Old French roque + Old English land . What if we translate this back through to Old English, and then up through Middle English? Let'...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:49 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Re: SCA Need a New Shire Name

-- could you be the Shire of Walchester ? +1 Nice name, Karen. I know, doesn't help with keeping the "Hadrian's" part, but I never said I was helpful. It does suit with the heraldry, though, and I think that may be a good way to go. I'm going to take a quick run-down of the orthographic e...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:40 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

I think we were trying to keep the Hadrian's, as it is a nickname residents have become known by. I'll admit, part of me is pulled towards the Hadrian's name becuase I came up with the name "Hadrian's Keep" and also designed the Arms for the shrie in that overall theme, Lower half a Wall ...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:04 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: SCA Need a New Shire Name NEW NEED MORE HELP!!
Replies: 85
Views: 2034

Re: SCA Need a New Shire Name

Anybody have any suggestions? Are there any notable geographic landmarks within the Shire's borders? Sometimes that's good for a name. "Horse Hill" is the sort of name I'd look at translating through Anglo-Saxon to create a proper English-sounding place name -- for 'horse' you could use h...
by Karen Larsdatter
Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:12 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: looking for paintings of armor
Replies: 4
Views: 141

Re: looking for paintings of armor

Any particular part of the 15th century, at least? There's lots of places I can point you towards -- http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/ is a good starting-point for German anything, really.
by Karen Larsdatter
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:00 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Cloaks
Replies: 10
Views: 453

Re: Cloaks

Not too sooper-tricky. 1. Cut your wool in a big square. 2. Read m and figure out how to wear it on your body. Women's cloaks tend to be semicircular. You might also want to see m and m To be honest, my first "good" SCA cloak was a polar fleece fabric that looked kind of like wool, and sew...
by Karen Larsdatter
Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:49 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Name and Heraldry Advice
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: Name and Heraldry Advice

The other surname is Fownes (also spelled Fones) and can be traced back to William Fownes in 1066 (not that much of anything happened in England that year. ) There are references to Fownes/Fones in the 1300s, so it is a period name for the 14th century. FWIW, the aforementioned Reaney & Wilson ...
by Karen Larsdatter
Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:15 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: What gifts to give new parents/baby in the 14thc?
Replies: 14
Views: 449

THE CORALL Corall is a stone þat comyth owte and growith in the see as herbis in the felde. & whenne she is owte of the see, she is rede as a bowe. She is noo lenger thenne halfe a fote. She is full gentill to hym þat bereth here, for, as oure elders maistres seyen, she sauyth hem fro thondyr...
by Karen Larsdatter
Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:32 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Break Down Bench
Replies: 10
Views: 777

A lot of the ones James mentioned above are actually prie-dieux -- though I am not sure whether it would have been terribly gauche to use a prie-dieu as a bench when it wasn't being used for prayer, since prie-dieux and benches did look awfully similar. :wink:

More prie-dieux: http://www.larsdatter.com/prie-dieux.htm
More benches: http://www.larsdatter.com/benches.htm
by Karen Larsdatter
Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:58 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: What gifts to give new parents/baby in the 14thc?
Replies: 14
Views: 449

A period gift could be a coral necklace. Coral was supposed to protect the health of children especially babies and you see it in some portraiture. Generally (within SCA's period) coral beads are going to appear as paternosters , but for infants, one does see coral used on rattles -- see m for a fe...
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:03 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Shoulder bag (13th/14th C.) - closure or no?
Replies: 20
Views: 643

I don't think I've linked to it from the pilgrims linkspage, but there's also this detail of a pilgrim's scrip, from The Supper at Emmaus by Juan de Flandes, c. 1510.
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:41 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: What gifts to give new parents/baby in the 14thc?
Replies: 14
Views: 449

Re: What gifts to give new parents/baby in the 14thc?

Ditto to what Thomas said. There's a time for playing persona, and unless you really think they have a need for a desco da parto , food is good. (Or see if there's anything specifically that they need -- preemie-sized baby clothes & hats, for example, which can be very hard to find.) If you're l...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:11 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Shoulder bag (13th/14th C.) - closure or no?
Replies: 20
Views: 643

I can say for certain but you could start hear m I can say that, too. Start looking in m (the pilgrims' satchels are a similar sort of bag, though those were probably leather) and there's a few at m too; scroll down to the bottom of the page, in the section marked "bags." (I have got to b...
by Karen Larsdatter
Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:58 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Proper beer holding device for the 14th C?
Replies: 30
Views: 749

Re: Proper beer holding device for the 14th C?

Back to the original topic ... it does depend on the sort of portrayal you're trying to put forward with your choice of drinking vessels, tableware, etc. (we use a different assortment depending on the event, and depending on what sorts of people we're meaning to portray at the event) ... but anothe...
by Karen Larsdatter
Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:37 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Embroidered silk?
Replies: 6
Views: 258

Re: Embroidered silk?

Actually, I'd recommend looking at the tiraz bands -- they look like decorative trim, but they're really inscriptions. m m m m m (I think there's some in Embroideries & Samplers from Islamic Egypt , but I can't remember for sure.) (This is not to say that all embroidered caftan trim was inscribe...
by Karen Larsdatter
Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:12 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Proper beer holding device for the 14th C?
Replies: 30
Views: 749

Glaukos the Athenian wrote:Can you make one of these?

See, that looks way more 16th-17th century to me. For the 14th century, I'd go more for something like this:
Image
by Karen Larsdatter
Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:40 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: New & upcoming books on armor & weapons
Replies: 13
Views: 494

Then there's Toby Capwell's book. Dunno whether he's still on track for first half 2011 release for that book -- but he's got two coming up on pointier things -- The Pictorial History of Knives, Daggers & Bayonets and The Illustrated World Encyclopedia of Knives, Swords, Spears & Daggers .
by Karen Larsdatter
Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:33 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Embroidered silk?
Replies: 6
Views: 258

Re: Embroidered silk?

Halbrust wrote:But isn't embroidery floss thicker and heavier than silk?

Embroidery threads come in a lot of different thicknesses -- and you can get silk embroidery threads. :wink:
by Karen Larsdatter
Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:56 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: fur lining and trim on liripiped hoods during the 14th C
Replies: 7
Views: 203

Re: fur lining and trim on liripiped hoods during the 14th C

I remember reading about an ermine-lined hood (possibly in Chaucer and Clothing or Chaucer and Costume ?) -- IIRC worn by an English nun. You may want to see the links at m for several examples of men's hoods, and what sort of ornamentation they'd had. I'd also recommend Fashion in the Age of the Bl...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:14 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Painting fabric (garb)
Replies: 9
Views: 352

Perhaps it's my peculiarity, but if it's available in book form, I always opt to own my own copy, especially when it's cheap and plentifully available. As much as I do love the web and all that it offers, there is also great value in having a physical collection of reference books. Oh, I quite agre...
by Karen Larsdatter
Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:31 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Painting fabric (garb)
Replies: 9
Views: 352

Lorccan - I haven't seen any evidence of this as early as 10th century Ireland. I remember that painted clothing was a particular focus for Countess Brigit of Mercia, and that she used to have a binder with photocopies of articles and photos relating to this subject, but can't remember anything in p...
by Karen Larsdatter
Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:56 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: New & upcoming books on armor & weapons
Replies: 13
Views: 494

Argh, I was going to add Medieval Garments Reconstructed: Norse Clothing Patterns which was scheduled for release next week. I see it's now been pushed back to mid December. Thanks for the notes, K. Sure thing! Also, clothing-wise (in terms of upcoming books) there's Clothes of the Common People 15...