The Armour Archive

Karen Larsdatter

So, context, I am trying to put together an event bid for a Masque Ball in October. Wait -- a masque ball? Really? Like this? http://www.mape.org.uk/activities/unton/portrait/images/henryn.jpg This is a masque. (Specifically, it's the masque from the portrait of Sir Henry Unton . From the website d...

Karen Larsdatter

Dunno if it's useful to this thread, but you can get some ideas for designs for barriers & fences at http://www.larsdatter.com/list-fence.htm

Karen Larsdatter

Unfortunately, I'm not finding the relevant volumes of the Statutes of the Realm online, but that's the best primary source on the subject. Has the grad student found a copy of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1153172771?ie=UTF8&tag=suggestion-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creat...

Karen Larsdatter

Bob H wrote:Vegetables and similar foods that aren't sloppy without packaging are carried in a <a href="http://www.18cnewenglandlife.org/18cnel/wallets.htm">market wallet</a>, which is a very old design.

FWIW, here's some examples of that sort of bag in 15th-16th century contexts: http://www.larsdatter.com/wallets.htm

Karen Larsdatter

Depends on the context. I think they're based on examples where the aventail has the person's own heraldry, but I could see it being done as a livery item -- with your lord's badge or your country's badge (along the lines of the bits at http://larsdatter.com/livery.htm for example, but no livery-aventails there IIRC).

Karen Larsdatter

However, in the 13th (I think?) and earlier 14th centuries there's a garment that is like a cloak with HUGE hanging sleeves, but also open armholes, that people might wear for warmth. Of course, now I can't remember what people call them. All I can think of is "garderobe", but that's &quo...

Karen Larsdatter

http://larsdatter.com/mens-surcoats.htm

Karen Larsdatter

Just happened to read this in my husband's copy of Osprey's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/184176146X?ie=UTF8&tag=suggestion-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=184176146X">English Medieval Knight 1400-1500</a> this evening; it's from the Hastings ma...

Karen Larsdatter

And so I'm looking for information from the Medieval period on tumbling/gymnastics and other physical training. Not that it has anything to do with training medieval knights, but there's Arcangelo Tuccaro's Trois dialogues de lâ€™exercice de savter, et voltiger en lâ€™air, auec les figures qui seru...

Karen Larsdatter

Also: ⋅ The Life of King Edward the Confessor , c. 1250-1260 ⋅ A book of hours (Ã–NB 1898), c. 1265-1275 on REALonline , but you can get to all of the "labors of the months" illustrations by going to m ⋅ Psalter of St. Louis (BNF Latin 10525), c. 1270, availa...

Karen Larsdatter

Sean Powell wrote:BTW many of the image links to the British Library are broken.

Yep - that's the case with a lot of the British Library links on the linkspages, unfortunately. I don't know why they keep removing stuff from their access-to-images area.

Karen Larsdatter

Check out http://larsdatter.com/tables.htm (if you haven't already)

Karen Larsdatter

You'll find some more medieval mousetraps here -- and they're even built to catch multiple mice.

Karen Larsdatter

I don't think I have any at http://www.larsdatter.com/painted-shields.htm that are specifically both 14th century and depicting a saint, but there are a few from the 15th century with saints.

Karen Larsdatter

From "Tilting in Tudor Times" in The Archaeological journal, Volume 55 : <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=DorQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&ci=133%2C553%2C740%2C377&source=bookclip"><img src="http://books.google.com/books?id=DorQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en...

Karen Larsdatter

Try to contact the herald in Buckland Cross -- he might be able to help you.

Karen Larsdatter

http://www.imagesonline.bl.uk/results.asp?image=003551
Initial 'C': King Edward III of England and David, King of Scotland, make peace in 1357; their shields of arms are shown above.
Originally published/produced in England (London); 1386-1399.
British Library Cotton Nero D. VI, f.61v

Karen Larsdatter

... or maybe you're looking at portraits, which are sort of an artificial context for looking at everyday costume? (Plus, they're generally of people who could afford to hire other people to carry their stuff around for them ... right?) Here's a few from m -- which has further descriptions of the st...

Karen Larsdatter

He could always be a gravedigger, a profession well attested-to in the historical record. Here's an example of a 16th century man digging a grave for a small child: m (Don't be too sad; the little boy was very sick, but not, as it turned out, entirely dead. The cold temperature of the ground woke hi...

Karen Larsdatter

You might see what you're looking for at http://www.larsdatter.com/galleries.htm (or possibly http://larsdatter.com/list-fence.htm )

Karen Larsdatter

Thomas Powers wrote:Benvenuto Cellini's autobiography is full of mentions of cheating in renaissance italian jewelry making!

... and it's available on Project Gutenberg!

Karen Larsdatter

While it is the end of the 15th Century (1498) the one picture he seemed very interested in is this one: (Durer's self-portrait at 26) Is there a full image of this? Or is there any work out there that woudl show what the rest of the clothing style would look like? Well ... that's Durer. And he's k...

Karen Larsdatter

My specific question is for anyone who knows about glass beads and amber in the early middle ages: did medieval people substitute one for the other? How does the economics break down here? I don't know specficially about glass beads as amber in early medieval contexts, but there's certainly example...

Karen Larsdatter

Honestly, steer him towards "nobleman" and away from "executioner." A lot of what we see in illustrations of executioners is a sort of fantastical interpretation, rather than a realistic one. (Often, you can spot the bits of costume that were meant to indicate "ancient"...

Karen Larsdatter

Well, why would they go to a two piece tie together pain-in-the-rear contraption? That's an interesting question. Let's approach this from a medieval hygiene perspective, shall we? We've discussed (elsewhere, I think) that wool garments were not washed regularly; dirt would be brushed off, and it's...

Karen Larsdatter

Primvs Pavlvs wrote:Does anyone have period images of other colors being used for felt hats?

http://images.vam.ac.uk/item/O16580/min ... f-a-young/

Karen Larsdatter

Only ...

Not that these'll have what you're looking for, but I'd consder these are certainly comparable, too -- at least in terms of manuscript images, etc.

http://liberfloridus.cines.fr/cgi-bin/init_session
http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/
http://www.kb.nl/manuscripts
http://corsair.morganlibrary.org
http://numerique.bibliotheque.toulouse.fr

Keep in mind also that there's both http://gallica.bnf.fr and http://mandragore.bnf.fr for getting at the BNF's stuff.

Karen Larsdatter

http://larsdatter.com/games-dice.htm

Karen Larsdatter

http://larsdatter.com/carpets.htm

Karen Larsdatter

MacTavish wrote:Wow, Chaucer and Costume is $850 dollars. Anyone know where to buy it cheaper?

I was able to read it via interlibrary loan. Bookfinder.com finds a copy at $95.

Karen Larsdatter

My big hate with the average SCA tabard is that a lot of the time people don't even put minimum effort into them. They're more often than not shapeless, have completely unfinished edges, are all torn up, ill fitting, etc. I love seeing big groups of fighters all wearing the same colors and heraldry...

Karen Larsdatter

Okay, boys and girls, I can't make you go to m ... but I can throw up things like these and say, "LOOK. HERE." m m Here I go, leading a frickin' horticulture again. These images are from the Chronique d'Ernoul et de Bernard le TrÃ©sorier and as such are late 15th century imaginings of earl...

Karen Larsdatter

Isenbrant Blackaert wrote:and just to be sure, they wore it in a braid?

Nope; loose, and slightly curled. A bit foofy, but well-tamed and neat.

http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Various_7.htm

Karen Larsdatter

http://larsdatter.com/cloaks.htm
http://larsdatter.com/snowballs.htm

Also, look at the wintertime illustrations in books of hours -- you can get to 'em directly from http://larsdatter.com/booksofhours.htm

Karen Larsdatter

I wonder how groups of knights and their men-at-arms did fight together and identify each other? Again, see m (especially the bottom half of that page). You might also like to see m (I forget, you may need to log in to see the images) for 15th century re-enactors in their groups' liveries as well. ...

Re: Medieval "Hors d'Å“uvres" anything of the like

Re: A Field for Pas'

Re: 14th/15th Century English Sumptuary Law

Re: Heraldric plaques?

Re: Cappa/Sleeved Surcotte?

Re: Tumbling/Gymnastics and Medieval Physical Training

Re: 13th century sources?

Re: Buying a better mouse trap

Re: LF- 14C Shields with Saints painted on them

Re: Sir Henry Lee

Re: Any heralds in the Bucks County Pa area??

Re: Need Name of Manuscript

Re: 16thC Belt Pouches?

Re: Pics of Joust or Melee

Re: Tryign to Help a reforming rennie...

Re: Cheating - did they do it too?

Re: Tryign to Help a reforming rennie...

Re: Braies/chausses

Re: Late 16th Early 17th Century Headwear

Re: Turkish Shopping

Re: 15th century Winter Clothes