The Armour Archive

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fearghus: Still, it was a 14 gauge helm, which is thicker than the period average. On horseback, the mass of the rider, horse and armour are concentrated on the point of the...

Asbjorn Johansen

Looks like it needs a lot more work, thanks for all the comments. Please keep them coming. The point, I obviously didnâ€™t make clear enough, is to remove "acted wounds" as a default in combat. The "certain number" bit is meant to indicate that you can have any number of including one. Maelgqyn sugg...

Asbjorn Johansen

This is a very rough draft of the petition I offered to put forward on the â€œIf you could changeâ€¦â€

Asbjorn Johansen

Animal, Thank you for the detailed replies. I agree with you that in many ways your combat is probably closer to the flow of pre 1600 foot combat than what occurs most of the time in the SCA. Do you mind if I reference this reply when I discuss experimenting with alternate rules within the SCA? Youâ...

Asbjorn Johansen

This got addressed a bit more on the other thread but for clarity I keep my questions here. Sorry if this is a lot of questions, but Iâ€™m always looking for more information on groups who do full contact combat. Also Iâ€™m just addressing when you folks fight each other, not when you come to SCA ev...

Asbjorn Johansen

Bedlam, Animal any body else,

How do your typical combat rules differ from standard SCA?

Do you have a rule book somewhere?

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

Thatâ€™s interesting, I got a different story when I inquired. According to the story I got, lower leg shots were outlawed on a kingdom by kingdom basis. The last kingdom that had them (Antir I think, it was one of the ones out west), finally got rid of them because folks would be struck on the leg,...

Asbjorn Johansen

To nit pick Bela, because I know he'll understand. Given the specific connotations of the word tournament within the context of historical study, it might be better to use a term like "non lethal combats", "restricted combats", or even "martial sports" to refer to instances of formal combat where th...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Asbjorn Johansen: Who fought in tournaments? First let me suggest Barker and Barberâ€™s Tournaments, you can almost always find copies on the used book sites for $20. Its re...

Asbjorn Johansen

The other source of evidence that needs to be examined is accounts of actual combat. I'm not aware of any accounts that indicate a spear piercing a helm. There are many cases of splinters through an eye slot etc. In order to make a solid case for helms being pierced by spears as anything other than ...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Vebrand: Have you emailed the SEM about this? Just curious. Vebrand<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I haven't tried the current, yet. I have tried in the past (I think my commu...

Asbjorn Johansen

If someone put together a petition to get rid of acted wounds. Would anyone consider signing it if they knew it was going to be forwarded to the Society EM and to every E list out there? (Assuming you approved of the content) Asbjorn [This message has been edited by Asbjorn Johansen (edited 09-07-20...

Asbjorn Johansen

Who fought in tournaments? First let me suggest Barker and Barberâ€™s Tournaments, you can almost always find copies on the used book sites for $20. Its readable and still the definitive work on the subject. Second, precision about what is meant by the term tournament is helpful. In the SCA the term...

Asbjorn Johansen

Animal,

You have summed up in a single post one of the central paradoxes and ironies of SCA combat, and presented the most logical solution.

Now if we can just get the Society Earl Marshal to agree.

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

Try posting on rec.org.sca, one of the regular posters from Australia (Zeebee Johnson I think) has made many mention over the years to going to events on a motorcylce and fencing.

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Animal: But does that stop a 10th century Viking dude from going to his local SCA event and fighting in the tournaments there? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Just a data point. One o...

Asbjorn Johansen

I'm not sure if it applies though. The context seems to indicate that you can decline the fight before it occurs. Not that you can get out during.

You'd think it would be explicitly in the rules.

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

I'm assuming you mean in single combat not holds (Tessa probably didn't see your post on the other thread). Here is the section of the above referenced rules I find relevant pg 8: B. Blows must be delivered with effective technique for the particular type of weapon used, and must strike properly ori...

Asbjorn Johansen

I'm not from Tennessee or WV, but I'm trying to get a team together and come from Philly. So far we have 3. I'm trying to get 2 more. This event sounds like so much fun. (The agreement is that if we get 5, we all take Friday off to drive there, and then leave right after the fighting on Saturday). I...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kilkenny: As a marshall, if you won't follow the rules, which includes things like falling down, then I would not authorize you to fight in the SCA. Gavin<HR></B...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Brodir: I don't fall down, and have never been reprimanded for it, but there is a movement locally to enforce the rule. ~Wil <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> There is a rule in ...

Asbjorn Johansen

Gavin, Within the context of a sport called SCA combat you are completely right. The fact that you are right just shows how out of whack our combat system is with actual historical combat. We have to discourage the use of safe, correctly made armour for the sake of the game... The game needs fixed a...

Asbjorn Johansen

For any group if you are doing a public display or demo, make sure your folks are willing to give this answer to a question: I don't know. I've seen folks from all types of historical groups ACW, ARW, SCA, and WWII, make the mistake of fumbling out wrong info when they just should have said "I don't...

Asbjorn Johansen

Juliana, I just wanted to clarify that it was a kingdom level classification, not a Society level, or find out if I was missing something at Society level. The drape referered to at the Society level could be just across the face. Actualy it seems to imply that the drape just covers the face at the ...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by GintarastheTaura: I think that you are correct in that ALL thrusts to the helm (except the fact) are considered no good at Pennsic and in the Middle. This also goes for arr...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FrauHirsch: I'd like to point out that the standard is that we are wearing a spangen helm with a drape and maille. A spear shot should easily pierce the side of the head in ...

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Wulfe: So which do you do? Allow the spears to the side/back of the head or disallow any thrusts to the side/back of the head? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> When I have seen...

Asbjorn Johansen

At the society level, thrusts to any portion of the helm other than the face are good. C. Target Area 1. Torso: All of the body (excluding the head and arms) above the points of the hips including the groin, shoulder blades and the area between the neck and the shoulders will be considered part of t...

Asbjorn Johansen

I guess Iâ€™m the odd man out here (and on this board thatâ€™s saying something). I look at my personal weapons as disposable. My spears have at most $30 of non reusable material involved in them. I spend more then that on gas to a typical event. While I regret the time to make a new one, if you can...

Asbjorn Johansen

Look in the society rules. Its mentioned for single handed swords. This is SCA wide. Kingdoms can be more restrictive not less.

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

(sorry no spell check) Comments on the pictures. Several of these are of Trevor who won the tourney. He had a trick of knocking folks off balance. Unfortunately it would result in both fighters ending up on the ground at times, if he didn't do it right. At times, someone who was falling over would r...

Asbjorn Johansen

I'm almost afraid to have the grappling rule clarrifed. It possibly could remove the more the Easts limited interpretation. Neither the BOD nor the SEM contacted me concerning any of this. I wish they had, but you know what they say about publicity... Murdock if you were say kidnapped and forced to ...

Asbjorn Johansen

Murdock,

You have no idea how much I wish you and your wonderful lady could come.

Asbjorn

Asbjorn Johansen

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BaronMal: (sorry no spell check) Body-to-body grappling is strictly against SCA combay conventions. Now if you are just moving them with your weapon...<HR></BLOC...

Asbjorn Johansen

Just as a side note, grappling, depending on the definition may have occured, but it wasn't a part of the rules.

Asbjorn

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