The Armour Archive

Sir Omarad

I have one on my old helm that I'm not using.
stainless welded Master Knut aventaille.

Make me an offer....
Can't remember what I paid.
I'll take a pic tonight.

Sir Omarad

Ulrich wrote:I'll be there.

oh........ummm.........great...

Sir Omarad

Finn O'Shannon wrote:I plan on ordering a set of these and the shirt tomorrow.

Remember to order a size larger than you think.
They are sized by the shirt company who expects them to stretch.
Zoombang sews so many pads on the SCA version that it doesn't stretch much.

Sir Omarad

Just ask for the SCA rod cut into 3 pieces 40" long each. From Barry Ellison at Brast Industries: As the 1.25" dia polypropylene rod is a non-stock item for us, we do not have an assigned part number of it. Should you have anyone needing to inquire about purchasing it in the future, they w...

Sir Omarad

Corby de la Flamme wrote:If you paid $30 for 36" of it, you either got something different, or really overpaid.

Amos is getting them for <$15 per 36".

I paid $35 for 10' cut into 3 swords 40" long.
So, not quite $12 each.

Sir Omarad

blackbow wrote:ask him to please send it all to Tom as well, if you haven't already. (heck, I'd like to see it all myself!)

Blackbow

Sir Omarad wrote:I was hoping Sir Seth, KEM Meridies would pipe in here with his experiences.
He has been testing one for a while now.

I related a lot of what he said to Tom already.
All good.

Sir Omarad

There are several hundred out there and as long as they break without injury that's fine from an SCA standpoint.
I woyuld save the pieces and gety a refund or something if it really breaks that early in it's life.

I've had several pieces of rattan that broke the first period of use too.

Sir Omarad

If that's the case...perhaps the SCA Inc will finally find the testicular fortitude to drop the laughable educational tax exempt status . Yes, something I have always wondered about. I agree. Just for the record... We don't *HAVE* to remain "Medieval" to retain 501c3. We just have to educ...

Sir Omarad

James B. wrote:Just FYI fencing is the art of sword combat not a style of sword

Sir Omarad

Well, first you'd have to agree on exactly what the defenition of "Rapier" is... Personally, I think of the heyday of what I consider rapier to be roughly 1550-1650. Others will claim a much wider date- into the late 14 or even 1300's. They would be no less correct than I. I just meant th...

Sir Omarad

Good day everyone. Don`t know if anyone need them but I have for sale 6 dome of the helmets made of 16g mild steel. for additional cost I can made any changes or add anything you need. The price is $110 including delivery. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_YzP2z1bnOjU/TcwSqV05znI/AAAAAAAAA2k/HF0z-...

Sir Omarad

I was hoping Sir Seth, KEM Meridies would pipe in here with his experiences.
He has been testing one for a while now.

Sir Omarad

The cup holder was designed for a little leaguer's cup or something. I could use it to hold my authorization card or something I guess. Anton Ya' know, if everyone did that, marshall's might stop asking us for the dumb things. Just sayin' You think that asking for cards to make sure everyone is aut...

Sir Omarad

Sir Omarad: Could you point me to where that's documented? I looked in the handbook and SEM rulings and the only restrictions I see for two handed weapons are: VII. WEAPONS STANDARDS C. Two-Handed Weapons. 6. Weapons exceeding 7 1⁄2 feet (2.286 m) shall not be used for cutting or smashing and shall...

Sir Omarad

Sir Omarad, Just for clarification: Is this equivalency only for the kidney area or is it for the kidney and short rib areas? VI. ARMOR REQUIREMENTS E. Body, Shoulder, and Groin Armor 1. The kidney area and the floating ribs shall be covered with a minimum of heavy leather worn over 1⁄4 inch (6mm) ...

Sir Omarad

With experimental weapons, is it possible for them to be legal in one scenario or tourney of an event and illegal in another? For example, not legal in the grande melee but legal in the great weapons tourney following afterwards. Yes, very easily, as every combatant on the field has to agree to fac...

Sir Omarad

Thorstenn wrote:Me, my wife, and some other person......oh wait, I remember, our King like dude is going

Thor-

Very cool.
Glad to see you there!

Sir Omarad

Oh, and it actually EXCEEDS the minimum of leather and 1/4" foam both in the lab and my empiracal (squire whacking me across the kidneys with every weapon we can find) testing.

Sir Omarad

What does it do in cold weather/hot weather. How much testing has been done, we have tested many other thing way longer and on a wider base. This just seems rushed to me. How many senior marshals have used, handled these? For now Trimaris is still under the old standard until further testing is don...

Sir Omarad

KEM Meridies as well.

Sir Omarad

Working on the new design. Should have samples ready within the next few weeks. All KEM's will get free samples for the asking. I'm glad to hear you are on it. I still think it was more of a fluke. Folks, make sure that if your KEM allows you to experiment that you report your results both good and...

Sir Omarad

uwhguy wrote:i had a brand new one break against me on Monday. it was a relatively clean break, but it wasnt 90 degrees. It isnt my sword, so I dont have pics, sorry, but I thought I should post it here.

I'd like to know the manufacturer and the owner for data purposes.

Sir Omarad

I'll be there.

Sir Omarad

Check pawn shops too.
Also antique shops and flea markets.
I've found SCA armor at all of those in the past.

Sir Omarad

48" is the minimum for a 2-handed weapon.

no butt spike on anything less than 48"

Sir Omarad

Thank you. I like the stuff, I'm just curious how we'd know if it had failed while sitting in the corner? I can see foam that's dry-rotting away, or leather that's gone soft, or steel that's rusted through to foil. This stuff can't be visually inspected that way... so I guess everyone using this sh...

Sir Omarad

Guys, one clarification.
The Zoombang material meets the SCA min Kidney protection spec.
It can be sewn into another shirt, you can buy the shirt with only Kidney/ribs and nothing else, etc...
As long as the kidneys are completely covered, as with ANY type of kidney protecting armor, you are fine.

Sir Omarad

Marco: good question but we don't know the answer. I suspect it doesn't wear out any faster than leather. Blackbow How long does this material exhibit these properties? Does it ever age from repeated hits? I asked Tom about that after I read your question yesterdau. He said they should outlast any ...

Sir Omarad

Sir Omarad wrote:
Vitus von Atzinger wrote:10 ounce. Cut from double shoulders.

Would you make me one please
I keep getting questions about these.

No rush, just send me a bill or what you want in trade.
See you at Border Raids.

Sir Omarad

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:10 ounce. Cut from double shoulders.

Would you make me one please
I keep getting questions about these.

Sir Omarad

I appreciate you're publishing it here, Sir, but please publish it officially, if possible. Some folks won't "enforce" rules, etc. without official paperwork, etc., especially if they disagree with it. Thanks, Mord. I have already posted it to my Marshallate forums. All KEM's have access.

Sir Omarad

losthelm wrote:I know some of the shoe lace suppliers will sell bulk spools.
The flat cord holds up well and for a few extra bucks they will change up the color/pattern.

My experience is that shoelace wears out quickly.

Sir Omarad

What are your thoughts on the other shirts (not maximum coverage). I have one of the lacross one which has kidney pads and not much else on the torso... I'm not familiar with them, PM me some info or pics. I'll get you an answer or a plan. I'd prefer to keep this thread about this stuff so I can an...

Sir Omarad

Christian Darmody wrote:Sir Omarad,
what item # do I order when I contact Zoom Bang? Will they know the product when I state I am using it for the SCA?

Thanks,
Christian Darmody

Just ask for SCA maximum coverage shirt and order 1 size larger than you think you need.

Sir Omarad

I would also remind people to remember that this is a MINIMUM standard and that additional rigid material over this standard is recommended. Can we print this out, show it to Marshals, and expect them to not bounce it? yes. And for good reasons A: It's your body armor you are wanting to wear. B: We...

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