The Armour Archive

Sir Omarad

I would also remind people to remember that this is a MINIMUM standard and that additional rigid material over this standard is recommended.

Sir Omarad

My conclusion:
Zoombang Viscoelastic non Newtonian Fluid "padding" as provided in the Maximum Coverage shirt meets and exceeds the equivalency of SCA required minimum Kidney protection.

Sir Omarad

OK. I tested the SCA minimum armor standard against the Zoombang Maximum Coverage shirt for Kidney protection. My real-life testing against shots thrown across my kidneys with various weapons found that the Zoombang shirt was equivalent or superior to the SCA minimum standard. I asked the engineers...

Sir Omarad

beat me to it.

Sir Omarad

I think the type of lamellar also contributes to the length needed. I have a full Byzantine-ish coat that goes to my knees. When I was 427 lbs it had 1200 plates and if I remember correectly took about 50 feet of cord per 100 plates. (I am now 260ish and I've taken out hundreds of plates) I have use...

Sir Omarad

Just curious about the zoombang stuff.. you can still _feel_ the impact, it's just not OWIE with them, right? hell yeah, it hardens up when hit so you feel the hit like a slap instead of a punch. Very surface oriented instead of deep bruising. I got some nice "light brown " bruises from s...

Sir Omarad

Did you do the pointing of the cop to the pads yourself, or do they include holes at the top already? If so, did you do anything special to reinforce it? No, that was a field expedient fix. I had forgotten how I had them attached to my other pads. Master Arnulfs wife was there doing embroidery and ...

Sir Omarad

They received the SCA min Kidney protection and are doing testing.
They are also goingto try and put up a "SCA" page with all the Maximum Coverage stuff on it when their webdesign guy gets off vacation.
It should make it easier to find all the SCA stuff.

Sir Omarad

I spoke with Tom today and he said that he talked with Lisa nad everyone is on board with making the strapped ones for us. Just ask for SCA strapped Kneepads and they'll know what you are talking about. They are also goingto try and put up a "SCA" page with all the Maximum Coverage stuff o...

Sir Omarad

Everyone disses this shear but I've been using mine with the original blades for about 10 years.
I've cut at least a hundred of .100" T6 6061 alumunum shields, some steel, brass sheets, etc...

Just keep it tightened up and go easy.

Sir Omarad

One of the things I really like about them is that they are really low-profile.
The padding is less than a 1/4" high.
My knees fit great.

Sir Omarad

Just remember that ifyou want to try weird or new stuffthat's not allowed in the SCA you must first get permission to run an experiment or try it at a private or personal practice that is no way affiliated, sponsored, paid for, or announced, by an SCA event or by an SCA group. Other than that ... ha...

Sir Omarad

They are serously sweet.

Sir Omarad

Here are the pics:

Sir Omarad

It was gorgeous in Ky today, really nice yesterday....
Gonna be crap all week.

Vitus is just bummed because his horse lost the Derby.

Sir Omarad

aidanhroarsson wrote:just asking for clarification...

That's the big question.
The fine folks at Zoombang are doing testing on the same leather/neoprene minimum armor that I used for my real-life testing.
When that data comes in I will make a call.

Sir Omarad

Khalil_ibn_Abd_al-Rahman wrote:I am coming in to this discussion late, but how do I go about purchasing this item?

Go to:
http://www.zoombang.com/

Email them and ask for the SCA Maximum Coverage shirt.
Order at least one size larger than you think you need.

They also have Awesome kneepads for SCA and Shorts.

Sir Omarad

I fought in aluminum knee cops and the new sca maximum coverage kneepads with the strapped back today. No problems, worked awesome. I had Sir Bonar purposefully whack me in the kneecop with progressively harder shots till we got to a stout blow and no injury. Keep in mind I have had knee surgeries a...

Sir Omarad

Donal Mac Ruiseart wrote:It's not surprising to discover that the SCA is rife with those.

nah.
just that one.

Sir Omarad

urban legend

Sir Omarad

Just so you know. My tests on the shirt show that the kidney protection offered by the shirt is equal to or better than SCA minimum protection. I will be making an equivalency decision after Zoomband sends me some statistical data. I sent them leather and paddingthat slightly exceeds the SCA offici...

Sir Omarad

Thanks, my students loved it.

Sir Omarad

Just so you know. My tests on the shirt show that the kidney protection offered by the shirt is equal to or better than SCA minimum protection. I will be making an equivalency decision after Zoomband sends me some statistical data. I sent them leather and paddingthat slightly exceeds the SCA officia...

Sir Omarad

Tom said to ask for the SCA strapped maximum coverage kneepads when you order.

Sir Omarad

I got the new version of the dotted ones yesterday.
They are excellent.
Wider dot coverage and a split back with velcro top and bottom.
Fit me great.
Worked well.

Sir Omarad

But seriously, ask your KEM.
Getting info here that doesn't come from the guys making the decisions directly can be wrong or just out of date.
Email the KEM's and they'll let you know.

Sir Omarad

I believe that some of those are keeping it experimental for a while longer.
Not all have disallowed it.

Sir Omarad

make it... Pell sized.

Sir Omarad

Just a note:
This is a great example of how this whole system works.
The experimental process helps us put out better, and safer, equipment.
Your feedback is very important.
Please tell your KEM's any GOOD or BAD feedback from these tips so we can get alternative tips in the hands of fighters.

Sir Omarad

From the handbook: (page 14) 5. Shafts may be spliced using a fiberglass rod or tube with a sidewall of 1/8 inch (3.2 mm) of the same or equivalent material, having an outside diameter of 1 inch (25.4 mm) and a length of 8–12 inches (203–304mm). Only two splices will be allowed per spear shaft. Eac...

Sir Omarad

I made one that worked well.
I used rubber O-rings between the 2 sections on the rod.
Kept it from splintering.

Sir Omarad

Caid's current manual repeats the old Society level manual: "4. All fiberglass spears must have a thrusting tip a minimum of 3 inches (76.2 mm) in diameter or crosssection. Additionally, these thrusting tips must be constructed so that there is a minimum of 3 inches (76.2 mm) of resilient mate...

Sir Omarad

IMO, the term "positive force" is terrible. It simply means "more than zero" and is not quantifiable. The "directed touch" standard is clear although subjective enough to let Kingdom Culture (TM, patent pending) have it's effect as well. Some Kingdoms thrust harder than...

Sir Omarad

Atlantia isnt one of those "just positive pressure" kingdoms is it? There is no such thing as "positive pressure". From page 10 of the Handbook. b. The minimum effective thrusting blow to the face shall be a directed touch and the maximum shall be substantially lighter than to o...

Sir Omarad

It seems like positive pressure would fall somewhere in the range of directed touch to substantially lighter which would allow the kingdoms to use it as a rule if desired, wouldn't it? I think it's misleading. It implies that you can lay the tip on someone and push lightly rather than direct touch ...

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