The Armour Archive

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Hey guys, Thomas H. posted a pic of a gorget that I thought was really interesting. Here is the pic: [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/747693/gorwithshoulders.JPG[/img] I am looking for pics of this type of gorget (with the shoulders), and am especially interested in seeing the inside so I ...

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Anton, Thank you for responding. I am not quite sure what you mean. The front half is already seperate from the back half so that it can be put on and then buckled. I am wondering if the chin is what's making it look...not right. I am also wondering if I should get rid of the overlap, or just make t...

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That's awesome! I like that alot! You know what, I bet it fits me. Why don't you send it to me and I can find out......

Very nice!
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Ok, this is the second attempt I have made at making a gorget, and it's not looking quite right. Any suggestions? What if I made the back collar taller to meet up with the front half? (I forgot to account for leather thickness in my cardboard mock up.) It may look better once I get the straps on so ...

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Jason, Just FYI, it took me 15 minutes of loading and reloading to get this post to load up for me, so if you respond to this and I don't answer, it's because I can't get on. Ok, well I've got it about halfway done. I kinda sat it aside for a while, but have been working on it again since yesterday....

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Eyvandr, I am really sorry to hear about the theft. I am even more sorry to hear that the items had sentimental value as well. While there is nothing I can do to help you recover these items, I CAN offer you maille from my site or a leather gorget. Now, the leather gorget is a piece that I am curren...

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Well, I posted some pics of the pieces I had cut out, then it went to that screen that says something like "click here to go to...", then it went like it was going to load the post, but it just kept starting over. I would see the add at the top of the page, then it would start to load again and I wo...

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Just so you guys know, for some reason I can't get my gorget post to load anymore. If I don't respond to your reply, it's because i can't get it to load, and not because I am being rude.

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Ok, I got all of the pieces cut, beveled, grooved and sorta sanded. I tried using the jigsaw (since we already had one), but that didn't work. It vibrated the piece too much and it was hard to get it right on the line. (My husband did it, not me) Instead, I used a razor blade and just kept going aro...

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I will second the farm supply store if you have one close. At mine, I can get 17 gauge galvy, or 14 gauge galvy. The half mile spool of 14 gauge is like $35, and I think the 1/4 mile is like $17 or $18. I don't remember the price of the 17 guage. TRL sells this, but you will have to pay for shipping...

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I thought you were supposed to use pliers to get a stubborn needle to go through.

Or a hammer works too.....

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Ok, the pieces are getting cut tonight, and I am going to get to work on putting together tomorrow.

Keep your fingers crossed for me!!

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Ps. I bought BLACK dye this time.

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Ok, before I make modifications, I thought I should show some pics with some measurements. The gorget may look bigger than it actually is in those last pics. Then again, it may still need to be made smaller. Since I'm not sure, here's the pics with a ruler: [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6...

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Well, I found some of the pics, but these are more "maille and plates" than "maille and scales", but maybe they will help. [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/747693/MoroArmor.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/747693/Moro5.jpg[/img] These have been saved in TRL's gallery un...

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Jason, I think I may go ahead and do what you suggested. It's much easier to see if anything needs changed when you have a (solid) 3D model to look at and play with. The cardboard is good for figuring out how things look, but doesn't help much when you are trying to figure out how it works. I am a l...

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Otto,
I like those! You did a great job on the...what is it called?...fluting? around the fingers.

They look really good! Be sure to post pics of the next pair!!!

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ronnin, Dang, I HAD pics of a suit similar to what you are asking about, but they were lost in The Great PC Crash of 2005. I BELIEVE the direction of the weave was changed (just the outside row that attached to the plates), and the rings were hooked through holes in the plates. I will look around to...

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Thomas,
You probably already know this, but a really long needle helps alot. The trick is finding one that doesn't have a huge eye.

Like I said, you probably already knew that, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

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Jason, That's a really nice gorget! Thank you for posting the pics! I see where it was flaired out at the edge. I wonder if I can do that with the leather? I think I may give it a try. Here is my revised pattern. I may need to trim the back down a little as it seems kind of wide. [img]http://img.vil...

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Will, That is good to know! Thank you for sharing your opinion. I guess the real trick will be to get the bevor part to curl up towards the face enough so that it fits up under the mask/grill. The way the larger bevor sits on top of the smaller support one causes it to point out rather than up, but ...

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Jason and Wulfe, Thank you for giving me your input on the fit of these styles. I'm still not sure how I am going to proceed, but I am pretty sure that I am going to make the back all one piece. Jason, the pics of the gorget would be great, but I think everyone would enjoy pics of the dance much bet...

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DeaconGestion, Thank you for sharing those pics! That helps me to see how it will interact with a bar grill, although I realize that it still won't work with every set up. I plan on shaping the bevor so that it curves up like yours does, though I'm still not sure if I will have to dish it or if I ca...

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Jason, Thank you so much for posting those pics, and thank you for sharing your design! I actually have two projects going here. I wanted to find a gorget design that would work with the collard mantles I make, and for that I was going to use my current gorget design, but without the mantle part and...

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Oswyn,
Thank you for pointing that out. It would be nice if I could make one that covered them all.

Konstantin,
Thank you for the links. I will check those out to make sure I have everything covered.

Thanks again!!
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Jason, Thank you for your words of support. It means alot to me and I am very greatful every time I hear them. Adding floating plates is a good idea. I will see if I can come up with something that will work. Thank you! As for the purple gorget, well.....maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the rest of th...

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Thanks! I am going to check out Lowes and see if they have it!!

Thanks again,
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Dan, I'm really sorry. I honestly hadn't seen the pic of that one. I think it's possible that it will look different enough to not be mistaken as the same pattern, but I will certainly not sell these if you feel the finished product looks too much like yours. (assuming I actually get it made, and ma...

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Irish, I will have to look up his site. I searched for quite a while under both "bevor" and "gorget", and didn't see one like this. If he has already made one like it, I don't want to copy his work. Crap, I was looking forward to making this. Well, I will take a look at his site. Thanks for bringing...

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Thanks for the input so far! So you don't think this design is too "off the wall"? On me, the chin part doesn't actually cup my chin since it kind of angles down and away from my face, but with a chinstrap ON, the design may interfere with looking down. I guess it would depend on how thick the leath...

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Ok, I guess this is kind of a made up design. I wanted it to give the impression of a bevor without having one that was full sized. Please feel free to let me know if this design is too "made up". I would also like to know if you think the bevor part will interfere with a bar grill. It does stick ou...

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Animal,
When you bought it, did it come with the blade that you use to cut leather? It's not a rotary cutter is it?

Thanks,
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Congratulations!! That's awesome!!!! Yes! please show pics!!!

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Ok, here's some pics of the second protoype. I think the bevor part may stick out too far and will interfere with the bar grill, but take a look at it and let me know what you think. Also let me know if you think it's too much of a hodge podge of design elements. [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/...

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Animal, Does the B and D zip saw have variable speeds? You really don't wanna see me tryin' to use a really fast saw. Let's just put it this way - I would not need to use ox blood dye on the leather to get it to turn that color. Do you happen to recall what the blade is called? Oh, and another thing...

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Hoho - even better if I can BUY them! I wonder if Lowes carries them? I will drag out the phone book and see what I can come up with. I can probably order them, but I am too impatient to wait.

Thanks for letting me know that!
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Need pics of this kind of gorget

gorget prototype #2 - not quite right

Can't get gorget post to load

Need input on design of 2nd gorget prototype