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by jester
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What to do after you leg someone...
Replies: 35
Views: 829

In a judicial duel you slay them quickly. In a war you offer them the opportunity to surrender. If they refuse, send in the armed retainers to capture or kill them. In a deed of arms your opponent should aknowledge he has been bested, the marshals should end the combat, you should refuse to fight fu...
by jester
Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:30 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Hey, you dont need that Spear!
Replies: 71
Views: 1260

Back to topic: Taking away spears. Here is an example from within our time period taken from Fiore dei Liberi's "Fior di Battaglia". m Bottom right hand illustration and text. "With my arms, this way I'll get rid of your spear..." Here we see an un-armed man taking a spear away from his opponent. Di...
by jester
Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:30 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: questionable greatswords(SCA)
Replies: 19
Views: 588

Alcyoneus wrote:In the redlight district of Amsterdam... :roll: :P :twisted:


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Sorry, flash back to model United Nations stories.
by jester
Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:37 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Hey, you dont need that Spear!
Replies: 71
Views: 1260

If you can disarm an opponent while still remaining armed yourself, then more power to you. Some things you should understand though: 1. Making yourself intentionally unarmed, in my book, should be forbidden. It goes against the spirit of the rule that "a fighter shall not deliberately strike a hel...
by jester
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:13 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: moving to fight (SCA)
Replies: 26
Views: 710

I would move to Wisconsin so that I could work with Bob Charron. Ditto. Woman would kill me though... too cold. Am currently investigating kidnap plans... Muhammed->Mountain? Mountain->Muhammed I have a five step plan to move Bob to a more accessible location but I'm hung up on step #1. I bought a ...
by jester
Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:43 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: moving to fight (SCA)
Replies: 26
Views: 710

I would move to Wisconsin so that I could work with Bob Charron.
by jester
Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) 17th century Calontir? anyone?
Replies: 76
Views: 1276

Re: (SCA) 17th century Calontir? anyone?

I know Calontir does not official sanction Rapier combat, but, it was mentioned in passing (on a different board that will remain nameless) that there might be some rapier fighters in the good kingdom of Calontir. Preferable near the Forgotten Sea area. Any truth to the matter? I'm sure there are -...
by jester
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:20 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a definitive Roundshield Book out there?
Replies: 11
Views: 265

Last time I looked at the Bellatrix mannual it WAS all strapped round shield. Could be...I haven't seen it, having never been west of the Mississippi SCAwise...all I know of it is someone once saying "Oh...Oldcastle...yeah...that's like Bellatrix, but different". I took a 2 hour class on Bellatrix ...
by jester
Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) 17th century Calontir? anyone?
Replies: 76
Views: 1276

There are other reasons, but personalities seem to play a strong role in this. Early on, back before there was a lot of data, there was a strong fear of what would happen if someone thrust with a broken blade. The Calontir Marshallate wanted to destroy blades that failed inspections so that they cou...
by jester
Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:17 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Something awesome at 3 Kings this weekend..
Replies: 19
Views: 484

I believe that's the same incident. Have I impugned the wrong Queen? :)
by jester
Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:30 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Something awesome at 3 Kings this weekend..
Replies: 19
Views: 484

Sir Kragon, being personally aquainted with Her Majesty as she had been his guest at Grand Outlandish that year, espied the Queen amidst her guards and led a group of Outlanders on the attack. Her guards fought valiantly but a hole was made in their formation and Sir Kragon sprang forward, seized up...
by jester
Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:56 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Something awesome at 3 Kings this weekend..
Replies: 19
Views: 484

I remember Sir Kragon capturing the Queen of Ealdormere in the Woods Battle at Pennsic several years ago. Great tale, particularly the way the folks of Ealdormere responded. I laughed for days.
by jester
Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: (SCA) 17th century Calontir? anyone?
Replies: 76
Views: 1276

I will probably get shot for saying this but...... I think its possible that rapier fighting could someday be seen as an official part of the martial activities in Calontir, but there are some HUGE obstacles in its path. The biggest obstacle is the rapier fighting itself. The fighters just dont tak...
by jester
Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:16 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: local fighter's mailout, please critique
Replies: 23
Views: 444

Muscle memory is a bad term to use. Both because it is misleading (the muscles don't learn the action, your neural pathways do) and because the best articles on the subject are found under different labels. Motor Learning Proprioception Procedural Memory (a good one) Kinesthetic Memory (another good...
by jester
Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:40 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Shield-strapping?
Replies: 11
Views: 303

Well...... Looking at the evidence I have a theory. The shield was considered an ablative piece of defense. You could go through dozens of the things in the course of a campaign. It is primarily depicted in three contexts: 1) Used by mounted men to deflect spears/lances. 2) Used by mounted men and d...
by jester
Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: local fighter's mailout, please critique
Replies: 23
Views: 444

I've slowly been building up some reference material on this. Here's what I think based on that research: Studies indicate that long-term learning of physical activities is optimized by a two-stage training process. The first stage is block training which is highly structured and controlled. The sec...
by jester
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fiore Seminar, Ft. Collins, Colorado
Replies: 12
Views: 203

Bump.
by jester
Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:28 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On-the-field training
Replies: 9
Views: 307

In a tournament Marshals are there to bear impartial witness and enforce safety standards. I think that suggestions should be offered after the tournament, not during it. Whatever the tournament happens to be.

Practices are different.
by jester
Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Shield-strapping?
Replies: 11
Views: 303

[SCA] Shield-strapping?

Are we strapping our shields in an historically correct manner? When the question occured to me I checked the references that were easily available to me and the closest I found was some of later Norman shields. But even those look like they were fairly loosely strapped and certainly I didn't see an...
by jester
Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Monday morning Training Update (early)
Replies: 26
Views: 311

Went through Fiore's plays at the dagger with partners.
by jester
Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:00 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Gyrth Oldcastle has passed
Replies: 21
Views: 781

:sad:
by jester
Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Can you hit someone with the haft when in the "clinch&q
Replies: 54
Views: 698

Ummm,.... Guys? The point is moot. The SEM says pushing with the haft is okay, striking is not. So, chivalrous or not, you can't "bonk" someone in the face with your haft to set up a follow on telling blow.
by jester
Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Half-swording: What is your striking surfaces, etc…
Replies: 6
Views: 147

I agree with Asbjorn, but I will state things in a different manner. We have almost no evidence for fighting prior to the age of plate. This is significant because SCA combat is mail combat, pre-dating plate. The only manual we have from before the age of plate shows unarmored combat. Halfswording i...
by jester
Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:56 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Would you trust your goret enough to calibrate on it?
Replies: 37
Views: 687

I also read in another post Aaron that you WANT to close useing a polearm. That is bad technique, the Pole is a range weapon not a close one. It's only bad technique in the SCA (and that point is debatable). It was expected behavior in the Middle Ages. In any event, the SEM says that pushing is oka...
by jester
Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:47 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Can you hit someone with the haft when in the "clinch&q
Replies: 54
Views: 698

Jester, You may not intentionally strike your opponent with the haft. Push all you want. Stay away from the neck. No "levering" or tripping of any sort. Robert SEM Tony Jordan wrote: > Your Excellency, > > A number of us are pondering a point for which there seems to be no clear > answer within the ...
by jester
Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:51 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Masters of Arms (SCA)
Replies: 72
Views: 1909

There is nothing that stops a Master at Arms from giving or accepting an oath of fealty outside of personal convictions.While a Knight Must swear, a Master May swear.At least 1/2 of the chivalry I know are Masters at Arms most have served as king or in kingdom office. All are excelent examples of t...
by jester
Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:23 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I.33 at fighter practice
Replies: 8
Views: 308

I've been talking Don Giovonni, one of the "light weapons" masters here in Trimaris, and I.33 might be better suited for side-sword. It strikes me as ironic that an organization dedicated to "researching and re-creating the arts and skills of pre-17th-century Europe" (so reads line one at sca.org) ...
by jester
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:07 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Sword and Spear..
Replies: 19
Views: 623

Re: Sword and Spear..

Anyone have any historical prescedence for fighting in a tourney using a single sword and short spear/boar spear? Crystoll Sure. Fiore (1410, see it at the Knights of the Wildrose website) shows this, as does Talhoffer (1467), and it is mentioned more than once in the deeds of Jaques Lalaing (15th ...
by jester
Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:17 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Longsword workshop- suggestions needed
Replies: 3
Views: 74

No way around it. You just say: This workshop will...... The material presented in this workshop is not appropriate for young children. Children between the ages of 14-18 may participate so long as they are directly supervised by an adult parent or legal-guardian for the entire duration of the works...
by jester
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:17 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I.33 at fighter practice
Replies: 8
Views: 308

I haven't tried it out in practice yet, but I have my doubts about direct application of the techniques. Many of the techniques rely upon the ability to use your shield to press the arm(s) of your opponent and/or on your ability to grapple your opponent's arms. I think Fiore's spada solo techniques ...
by jester
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Boffers
Replies: 14
Views: 266

[SCA] Boffers

Does your Kingdom regulate boffer combat?

If yes, does boffer combat fall under the Marshallate in your Kingdom?
by jester
Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fiore Seminar, Ft. Collins, Colorado
Replies: 12
Views: 203

Fiore Seminar, Ft. Collins, Colorado

The Ft. Collins branch of the Rocky Mountain Historical Combat Guild will be hosting Mr. Bob Charron for a weekend of examining Fiore dei Liberi's martial art, as presented in the Flos Duellatorum. Mr. Charron is the pre-eminent researcher of Fiore's art within the US and has taught several previous...
by jester
Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Cross-checking/hafting ok?
Replies: 58
Views: 969

Except that we can find examples of cross-checking in Medieval documents. A lot of the assumptions about weapon usage that were held at the time the rules were written have been challenged by new evidence. Bad bad bad bad bad example. We see shield bashing, strikes to the feet, hands, sphincter, et...
by jester
Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:07 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Cross-checking/hafting ok?
Replies: 58
Views: 969

If anything, Ulrich may have come up with it, however, in the line about using a weapon in accordance with it's design. We have a prohibition against quarter staffing, and this type of cross check is a quarterstaff technique. Except that we can find examples of cross-checking in Medieval documents....
by jester
Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:52 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Cross-checking/hafting ok?
Replies: 58
Views: 969

To sum up: No one has found anything that indicates this is banned at the Society level. No one has produced any information indicating this is banned within their Kingdom. Ansteorra is comfortable with the idea. The Outlands is comfortable with the idea. A fair number of individuals think this is a...