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jester

I was called to task for 'overstating' the amount of grappling/wrestling that goes on in the SCA. A quick websearch turned up some interesting links to upcoming SCA events at which wrestling (outside of rattan and rapier combat) is an announced part of the event.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:mq ... vent&hl=en

http://www.cloondara.org/Calendar/516.aspx

http://ffynnon-gath.ansteorra.org/highlandGamesIII.htm

http://www.brighthills.org/events/tnt2004.htm

jester

Otto,

You can still participate without doing a military persona. Consider portraying a clerk. Low cost and exceedingly under-represented in both the SCA and living history.

jester

Grappling. It's a poorly labeled catch-all category. The definition in the Marshals Handbook is broad and vague. The SEM recently clarified this definition, somewhat, though I have yet to see the clarification be reported to the BoD as required by Corpora (and I could very well have missed this). Fo...

jester

Again.... what game are we playing? If we are attempting to simulate warfare then striking from behind should be the case. However, given that the SCA has a non-existent training program and almost no statements governing the intent of our combat simulations this will lead to bad-blood at the very l...

jester

This means that any cutting edges must be marked with contrasting tape, Huh? Cutting edges must be marked with contrasting tape. What do you really think it must contrast with, the rest of the blade, your garb, your auto???? not that all edged weapons must have an edge. Maybe I've been hit in the h...

jester

No one has EVER told me I needed a wrist strap on my basket hilts. Course, my hockey gloves "lock" into em pretty good.. I often leave the glove in the hilt and take my hand out. Spear, as mentioned above, is nto a "one handed weapon" even if you are using a buckler. No wrist strap needed. Maeryk B...

jester

I don't see that the rules says you have to have an edge. If that is what you want to do with it, just tape the stick and its all "flat". OOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NOW, I get it. (Yes, I really am this slow sometimes.) Such a weapon would be useless in standard SCA combat (if the marshals even allowed ...

jester

Awards: If you're in it for this, then you're doing something wrong.... I didn't create the system, but if we're going to have it there are different ways of doing it that I like better. And I don't meet the requirements that I postulated in my list. I play because it's fun. Given my experiences ov...

jester

Actually, I like the idea of letting your opponent decide whether to yield or to fight. I think it would be entirely appropriate, and completely within the rules, to have a scenario where you let your opponent know that you are behind them by laying your weapon (any weapon) on their shoulder and dec...

jester

Hmmm........ Fighting: -A modular rule set that more easily allows for tailoring the rules to fit specific scenarios. -A published experimentation process. -Publicly accessible records for experiments. -Publicly accessible safety records. -A statement of intent. General Organization: -A well-defined...

jester

Agreed. Unless you're volunteering I'll just finish off the piece and send it to TI with the understanding that they are free to edit the living daylights out of it.

The writing is atrocious, but the basic information is sound and folks can take that and run with it.

jester

Same in the Outlands. Place your spear (or pole) on their shoulder such that the point sticks out in front of them so that when they turn their head they will see it. Make the declaration. Works like a charm.

jester

Screw origins! I want to hear the tale of the tree of woe! Woe! Woe! Woe! Woe!

jester

This is my second draft on this article (which I had forgotten about until recently when I thought "This would be a good idea" and then said "Say, didn't I start something like that?"). First draft was at: m I think I have addressed all the concerns regarding the substance of the article. I'm adding...

jester

"The first, and most important rule, is that each and every fighter on the field has honor." This also may be for another thread, however... I think we all agree on the basic and core tennants of Honor. However, to me, placing a sword on my grill and telling me that I'm dead does not honor me. I'd ...

jester

I agree. To me, placing your sword on me is NOT a good blow, but thats for another topic... How hard shall I strike you? As hard as I usually do when I might need to blow through some of your defense? Just enought to let you know I'm there? How much is that? Not trying to be snarky or difficult, bu...

jester

I agree with everything you said, Richard. But if we can't clarify the game, then perhaps we could clarify the scenarios. I would like to see every scenario come with a statement of intent and a few references. E.G. "This scenario will approximate the Battle of the Thirty fought in 13-whenever. For ...

jester

Hmm.... I like death from behind: striking your opponent a telling blow while he is not facing you. I have played with this convention in Markland and in SCA-style combat with friends. It works nicely. We sometimes get frayed tempers, but since we are friends we work it out. And that's why it doesn'...

jester

Asbjorn Johansen wrote: Or IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d not mark a striking surface, and have every fight until they were tired of getting hit Ã¢â‚¬â€œ this is probably the most authentic way to do it.

Bingo. That's the exact idea.

jester

I guess my point is that, according to what I have seen in the rules, you can't take the field with what is essentially a standard SCA sword minus the edge markings. Or can you?

I'm making some notes on simulating a behourd in SCA combat and I'd like to know if folks could do this or not.

jester

Are you talking about the recent decisions made by the Society Earl Marshall re: grappling or are you talking about something more general? If you are talking about somewhat contraversial rulings by a single officer, I wouldn't worry about it. When they are replaced, the really bad decisions are li...

jester

A good point, but not an accurate comparison. What if you are tossing the frisbee around and the park ranger comes over and tells you that you can't toss the frisbee around because this park is only for playing disc golf. So you ask to see the regulation and he tells you "Hey, we've got rules to cov...

jester

Ok as i read this you are saying that if you 'Harpoon' (cup the butt end of your spear while attacking) is leagal?? I authorized spear and was called on this exact tactic as ILLEGAL!! imagine a 400# spearman putting all of the hip and arm into a spear thrust to your 16ga. helm?? I'm sorry but that ...

jester

jester

What you need to understand is that you must decide and discover your own reasons, Jester. If you can 't do that, then everything is pretty much meaningless. Mord. 8 I do have my reasons, Sir, and some of them are the same as yours. Others are different. My point is not that I need the Society to t...

jester

I agree. Perfectly legal.

jester

I'd like to see the rules clarified. Nothing more. I'm not fishing for suggestions on re-wording and I have no intention of discussing this issue with the marshallate in any sort of 'official' capactiy.

jester

What's the point? Why does SCA combat exist? Does it have a purpose? A goal? Are we trying to accomplish something? This point is not addressed in any of the governing documents. It is addressed, to a degree, in the introduction of the Marshals Handbook (online, edition of November 2000) where it is...

jester

#2 Palming spears when thrusting. Legal/not legal? I haven't checked the MHB but I have gotten conflicting ruling from field marshals. I personally don't want to do it or have it done to me because there is no possiblity to bleed off energy from a hard shot by releasing your grip and letting your h...

jester

Is it possible to make a baton of the type used in some behourdim in the SCA? I imagine making a sword and simply leaving the contrasting tape that marks the edge off. I know that I wouldn't be able to use such a weapon in a normal tournament, but would it be legal for a specific behourd-style tourn...

jester

Basket Hilts. Are basket hilts armor, as would seem to be implied by: The Marshals Handbook, Edition of 2000 (online) "VI. ARMOR REQUIREMENTS A. Armor Construction 5. Hand and Wrist Armor - The outer surfaces of the hand and wrist of both arms must be covered by one or a combination of the following...

jester

Wrist straps. From the Marshal's Handbook, Edition of 2000 (online) "VII. WEAPON STANDARDS A. General 2. Weapons used single-handed shall have a wrist strap (or equivalent restraint) which will keep the weapon from leaving the immediate area of the user." So what about: Madus - If a basket hilt on a...

jester

Guys and Gals, We're falling back into the habit of not putting our messages in context. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding. So... please try to make sure everyone knows the context your question (or statement) is meant to be part of. Example: If your subject deals exclusively with the SCA...

jester

This isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t a question of whether you like them or not, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a question of kingdom practice. Are thrusts to the side, back and top of the head good blows in your kingdom? Is it specifically laid out in your kingdom fighting standards? If yes, can you point me to the reference? Hmm.... ...

jester

I'll jump in on this. Bob's classes are insanely informative and lots of fun. I've been to three of his seminars and every single one of them was worth every penny. The basic footwork and concepts (lines of attack, timing, distance, etc...) can be directly applied to SCA combat (for those of you so ...

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