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- Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:47 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
What about the argument that the steel fighting you want already exists? Just not here? Go there. Or, well, a lot of peeps don't like it and don't want to see it here? Safe or not... just don't want to be associated with it? Why are the desires to have it more important than those that don't? Espec...
- Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: painting a 14th century shield
- Replies: 16
- Views: 411
I don't have my notes available to me (and they were pretty sparse) but I seem to recall a glue/paint made from milk products. The recipe I saw (a modern equivalent, not billed as an accurate reproduction) used cottage cheese. The cottage cheese was drained in cheese-cloth and then spread thin on a ...
- Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:47 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Who Best Represents the Kingdoms (SCA)?
- Replies: 49
- Views: 2115
- Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:23 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
Hi Richard. Your points are well made and I agree with you on most of them. If steel combat was treated in the same way as rattan combat then I agree that we would have serious problems. But the Sidesword experiment has managed a percussive steel program without serious injury for what? two years no...
- Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:02 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Wine
- Replies: 1
- Views: 110
Medieval Wine
According to the online Medieval Gastronomy display at the Bibliotheque Nationale Francaise light white wines were the most desireable up until the last quarter of the 14th Century when reds began to become more popular. They don't quote sources. Does anybody have any info on this?
- Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
I can't tell you the original reason for banning it. But the current reason to keep it banned for combat (note that under certain circumstances real swords can be used in a limited way for demonstrations - not combat) is safety. Period. I know enough people who were on the board over the years that...
- Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:39 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Content vs. Appearances, thanks Chef
- Replies: 4
- Views: 280
Content vs. Appearances, thanks Chef
In the Material Culture of a 14th Century Esquire on Campaign thread, Chef de Chambre wrote: The thing to keep in mind is that in the Medieval mindset, the ceremony, and keeping up appearances is what is important. They took and used things 'in the field' we would never consider today - because thes...
- Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:12 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
We fight with rattan and not steel for the same reasons why we drive on the right side of the road: it was decided to do so a long time ago, everyone is used to it, and an entire culture is built around it. It would be near impossible to change everything now. Besides, it does work. This is an inte...
- Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:03 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
Re: Why not in the SCA ?
simple, the sca is full force (well, in most kingdoms) non-choreographed fighting. if i hit you with a piece of steel as hard as i do with rattan you would break. the scas combat system is its own beast and can not be compared to anything else. i am more than happy to hit my friends as hard as i do...
- Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:16 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Why not in the SCA ?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 1518
Here's my opinion on the subject: 1) Metal Weapons combat requires training. The SCA doesn't have a formal training program (although some Kingdoms and other groups do). We can have someone who walks in off the street in armor and on the practice field in under an hour. They can probably authorize a...
- Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:06 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Late 14th Century Feast Gear
- Replies: 4
- Views: 223
Well, the stainless and the pewter, in my opinion, look substantially the same and the stainless is much cheaper. Consider the plain beaker - tumbler. Billy and Charlie want $45 for the plain beaker. I can buy stainless for $5 and flare the rim, if needed, with 2 minutes worth of hammering to produc...
- Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:12 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Late 14th Century Feast Gear
- Replies: 4
- Views: 223
Late 14th Century Feast Gear
I've been focusing my research in this area for the past few days. My wife and I have been brainstormng ways to obtain durable feast gear that presents a reasonably medieval (1366AD) appearance. We're doing SCA, not living history, so we feel comfortable making compromises that living history folks ...
- Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:51 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Flonzy, you are famous
- Replies: 11
- Views: 496
Three posts? Man, you are worked up about this. My point being that throwing paint balls is no more ridiculous than slapping someone with one. Heck, I've even thrown rocks at targets on the M-16 qualification range (which, by the way, the Drill Sergeants frown on, no matter what they might say durin...
- Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:27 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Flonzy, you are famous
- Replies: 11
- Views: 496
Man, I can't decide if I should laugh or cry after seeing THAT... Ok, I made up my mind: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You know..... I read a book once (my epitaph) back in the 80's by a couple of guys who claimed to have developed the sport of paintball. One of the anectdotes involved a guy who empt...
- Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:08 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Rebated-Steel rules?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 212
- Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:04 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Rebated-Steel rules?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 212
Hi First question, what period you looking to cover ? If it's Anglo-Saxon/Viking/Norman I can point you to a copy of the TO handbook used by the Vikings. m click on 'Guides' and read away. The handbook is a 500kb PDF so 'save as' There are also a number of small groups already fighting this way, sp...
- Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:08 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Rebated-Steel rules?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 212
Rebated-Steel rules?
I'm looking for rebated-steel rules. Any suggestions?
- Mon May 31, 2004 10:20 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: So what does it take to get 15th C. LH to thrive in the US?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 1326
I agree with Gwen that it's a lot easier to do 15th century LH in the U. S., chiefly due to the increase in sutlers (like Historic Enterprises) who are committed to making quality soft and hard kit. What I find myself wondering is if the "SCA standard" sometimes stymies the best efforts of such gro...
- Thu May 27, 2004 2:47 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] Halfswording
- Replies: 12
- Views: 294
To the best of my knowledge the SEM has not authorized half-swording, he has authorized the KEM's to allow experimental programs. Mind you, I could very well be wrong. Check with your KEM. The notice I saw was very broad. From the President's Notes on the January 24, 2004 BOD meeting: 4. Half Swordi...
- Thu May 27, 2004 2:04 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Online fighting vids?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 366
- Thu May 27, 2004 11:08 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] Halfswording
- Replies: 12
- Views: 294
[SCA] Halfswording
So, the Marshal of the Society has said that Kingdoms may set up halfswording experiments and TI has published an article on halfswording for the SCA. Has anybody tried it?
- Thu May 27, 2004 8:19 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: What weapon style do you enjoy the most?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 542
- Wed May 26, 2004 11:56 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Shields as weapons (SCA)
- Replies: 82
- Views: 1405
Animal, That is exactly what I am saying...if I build a shield out of rattan...or figure out a way to edge one with it,..can't I then strike with it? I think what makes most folks go "NO NO NO" is the thought of a shield as a WEAPON TO KILL WITH. Not really what I want to do, really does not make t...
- Fri May 21, 2004 12:47 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Period?????
- Replies: 137
- Views: 2713
I often wonder about this myself. While I won't knock anyone for what they want to do, seeing Roman and Greek stuff on the field doesn't ring "medieval". Much like the many "Musketeers" on the other end. Personally, the SCA has too broad of a timeline. It's ashame we can't split the periods somewha...
- Wed May 19, 2004 1:42 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] Evil fighting group
- Replies: 57
- Views: 1681
Not to put too fine a point on things but...We all hit too hard at times. It's a result of several factors. Usually when we are excited, we tend to hit harder. If we have issues with the opponent we have drawn we tend to hit harder. If we have decided for some reason that we simply will not lose to...
- Mon May 17, 2004 3:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: To the heavy fighters out there:
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1095
What do I want in a pas? Most of all I want context. I want a reason for beating someone with a stick that is different than "because" (although, let's be honest, 'because' is generally all the reason I need). I want something different than the marshal in charge reciting a bored litany of "You know...
- Mon May 17, 2004 1:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A dillettente's observations on the martial arts
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1029
Mind you, even then things can be chancy. Unless the martial art mirrors the conditions under which SCA combat occurs then you are going to end up doing some degree of modification. Basic principles are basic principles are basic principles. The real differences occur based on the weight each system...
- Sat May 15, 2004 8:25 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - the 5th ward
- Replies: 6
- Views: 139
It's a tail ward. See page 54 of the manuscript. The problem with the illustration on page 2, aside from the rip, is the artistic style in use. You can always see the face of the figures (I can almost hear the monks saying "You've got my face in the picture, right?") and the figures on pages 1 and 2...
- Mon May 10, 2004 12:39 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
He's right about the perspective thing. You can't rely on the distance depicted between the fighters because art of the time pretty much never shows distances between people and objects. Look at the paintings of tournaments where everyone is shown elbow to elbow... But if this is so can we rely on ...
- Mon May 10, 2004 10:56 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Training while away from the Society
- Replies: 21
- Views: 470
Re: (SCA) Training while away from the Society
Greetings, Due to mundane restrictions, I have been unable to play on a regular basis over many years - to an extreme degree, but I digress. I am currently a deployed soldier in Iraq, and don't have access to armour, my swords, a pell, or any of the other useful tools for SCA combat training. I hav...
- Fri May 07, 2004 2:12 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Give up? I'm too damn stupid/stubborn to give up. I've drafted 3 responses to Stephen's message, but they haven't stood up to examination. I'm a little cramped for time since I'm in training this week. Hard to break out the 8 references and formulate a coherent thought on 13th Century swordsmanship ...
- Thu May 06, 2004 9:15 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Best Unit.
- Replies: 73
- Views: 1700
Pound for pound, Anglesey was and still is, the best melee unit in Atlantia. Well...when we're actually in Atlantia that is... That does bring up the question of how can Anglesey ever claim Atlantia? Are they not a mercenary unit, and therefor independant of any kingdom (by their own title)? Damnit...
- Thu May 06, 2004 4:18 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - would you want to grab a live blade?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 418
can somebody post a link to a definition of halfswording, or post a definition thereof? regards, jonathan blackbow Ask and ye shall receive. Look in the current (Spring) issue of Tournaments Illuminated (the SCA's quarterly magazine) to see an article on half-swording written by Sir Rhys ap Harlech...
- Thu May 06, 2004 11:52 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA - On-the-field vs Off-the-field
- Replies: 18
- Views: 434
This is why, when I was a marshal, I started to get into the habit of asking the participants: "My Lords, are you satisfied with the conduct and resolution of this match?" If either one has a problem, now is the time to bring it up. After both parties are satisfied then I would announce the victor a...
- Thu May 06, 2004 10:59 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
I'm having this discussion on the SwordForum as well. Stephen Hand just knocked my interpretation pretty seriously and he should know (he's one of the authors of Medieval Swordsmanship, which is an excellent interpretation of the I.33).
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread ... adid=34156
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread ... adid=34156
