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- Wed May 05, 2004 3:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Announcement: New Grande Assiette Website
- Replies: 6
- Views: 294
- Wed May 05, 2004 2:03 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - would you want to grab a live blade?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 418
In regard to the SCA halfswording experiment: I agree that allowing a strike with the portion of the blade between the hands might be a problem--It's cross-checking and I've seen in other sports how well it works However, this really isn't an issue at all. Just say, "You can't do that." Some people...
- Wed May 05, 2004 1:22 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - would you want to grab a live blade?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 418
Medieval sword was usually sharp only in the last portion of blade (debole) and not like a razor. You can safely grab the other parts of the blades without fear. I would very much like to see some data on this point. I have seen this theory being advanced by a number of people but haven't seen any ...
- Wed May 05, 2004 10:36 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Ansteorran Crown Tournament thoughts
- Replies: 45
- Views: 934
- Tue May 04, 2004 4:03 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - would you want to grab a live blade?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 418
Getting off topic here... There are some concerns regarding halfswording in the SCA that folks should be aware of. The only announcement I have seen regarding this opportunity was a brief note in the President's notes from the January, 2004 Board Meeting. That note said that users could grab the bla...
- Tue May 04, 2004 8:21 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Dave has done some interesting work with I.33. I have a copy of his early video (which he is in the process of re-doing) and talk with him about I.33 over on the swordforum. I'm actually having this discussion on this forum and the swordforum. You can see the discussion over at the SwordForum in the...
- Tue May 04, 2004 8:12 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33 - would you want to grab a live blade?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 418
What Bob said. This, of course, raises some interesting questions. The figures in I.33 are wearing gloves, but they look to be standard gloves, nothing special. So how sharp were these swords? There are three sword grabs in I.33. The first involves grabbing your opponent's weapon if he is silly enou...
- Mon May 03, 2004 5:42 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Those of you looking for an explanation for the terms that Dave Rawlings is using will have to read Christian Tobler's book. One of the ARMA folks (Keith Meyers) has a nice article that covers this same subject matter (less the I.33 comparisons) with lots of pictures (which [b]I[/] always appreciate...
- Sat May 01, 2004 11:11 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Getting better all the time. I'm off to an event in a few minutes but what if: Pg3T to Pg3B is a horizontal movement instead of 45 up. That would be the way FMA guys do that sort of technique. It looks that way in the picture to me and I think it will actually be stronger. Then Pg4T would be the lo...
- Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:27 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Okay. The left foot step works better, at first. But in the later actions, which follow on from this, the pass back with the right foot seems to hold some advantages. Of course, I could very well be wrong. It may be that my understanding of the follow on actions is flawed. Here are my rough notes (w...
- Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:29 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Off the top of my head I think the left step works as well and probably better. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to try it out with a partner, but after trying it on my own: -It seems to generate less power, which can actually be good thing since most folks apply too much power when taking the cente...
- Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:04 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Okay, let me take another stab at this. First, forget just about everything in the paper. The introduction is okay, but forget all the techniques. Everythng I am going to discuss here refers back to this illustration: m Basic considerations: -Ranges: A Range: Everything you can touch with your hand....
- Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:36 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Yes. When the priest places the weak of his sword against the strong of the scholar's sword it is done quickly and with force. I would compare this to the tactic some SCA fighters use of dropping a shot onto the top of their opponent's shield which positions them for a follow-on thrust. Then perhap...
- Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:10 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
I'll post some of my own criticisms now. Starting with the sequence P3T->P3B->P4T. Once we arrive at P4T, the bind, I am showing the scholar as executing an onside teardrop return. The problem with this is that it cedes the inside line to the priest. Imagine that, instead of doing his own teardrop r...
- Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:56 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
I think I might be a little unclear of what it is that you think is happening from Pg3top -> Pg3bottom. My first reading of your first interpretation was that the priest placed his blade online in preparation for a thrust to creat a sort of "in line, in time" situation where the scholar must abort ...
- Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
- Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:19 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
If I described the buckler as being used only for defending the sword hand and forearm then I am wrong. Not described. Implied is what I got. I was simply expressing my contention that there is a more definite interplay between the sword and buckler. Often i think there is even implied a bit of tra...
- Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:07 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Re: Right on
You were right on with the comparison to the Talhoffer buckler section. That helped with #5. Getting some conflicting opinions over left or right foot forward on some of the guards. Got any opinions? Opinions yes, answers no. It seems pretty clear that 7th Ward (and it's many variations) are right ...
- Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:37 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
- Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Gaston, Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I obviously need to make my point regarding credibility more clear. I was not trying to say that the author of the I.33 didn't know what he was talking about, just trying to make the point that we cannot simply accept this material as perfect, ...
- Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:24 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
- Replies: 36
- Views: 656
Sword and Buckler Interpretation - I.33
I have posted a copy of a paper I displayed at the Outlands A&S competition online. It's a partial, possible interpretation of some of the material in the I.33 manuscript. Mostly it's just a snapshot of some of my notes. I'm soliciting feedback on another forum from some other folks who study this m...
- Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:37 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Authenticity versus Fun
- Replies: 31
- Views: 638
Re: Authenticity versus Fun
The SCA is full of people who are there to have fun, and their concept of fun does not include hundreds of hours of research and painstaking work to make something that is perfectly authentic. Some of them even care about being authentic, to a degree. They would never wear a spun top helm, and you ...
- Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:06 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Kids and Boffer fighting
- Replies: 13
- Views: 320
- Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:02 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: great sword technique question
- Replies: 5
- Views: 212
Actually, I said the spirit of the game, not the rule. My reasoing being that what Ruthardis is asking, in effect, is if he could use a double-headed spear (a point at each end) and place his palm on one point and use that hand to thrust the other point at his opponent. Simple physics tells me that ...
- Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:00 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: great sword technique question
- Replies: 5
- Views: 212
Interesting question.... I would say that if you have a buttspike on the pommel of your greatsword you cannot hold the palm of your hand over the buttspike and then thrust your opponent with the thrusting tip at the end of your blade. The rules are silent on this matter, so far as I can tell, but th...
- Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:04 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) What do you wear on your hands?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 778
Owen, I think you are reading too much into the reg. The SEM has already stated that finger gaunts are allowed, but there has not been a rewrite of the rules. Giles You know, it would be nice if all these interpretations and edicts were published somewhere. Regulation by rumor gets awful frustrating.
- Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:07 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pennsic a war or grand melee?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 501
I think its both. For most (and for me) its a War, but I know a few that insist that its a Grand Melee. So, like most things in the SCA - its what people want it to be. And therein lies the root of many of our problems. If the event is billing itself as a war then everyone who attends should treat ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:00 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pennsic a war or grand melee?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 501
- Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:57 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Top mistakes by new fighters?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 1206
Poor shot technique. Not Breathing. Blinding themselve with their shield. Only frontal attacks. ... Exactly. New people tend to walk straight forward, with their shield raised in front of their face, until they encounter an obstacle and then ineffectualy flail on their right side with shots entirel...
- Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:10 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA sword alternatives
- Replies: 91
- Views: 2285
Well then, how about taking a 1.25" diameter UHMW rod and quartering it lengthwise along the length of the blade (leaving the hilt area untouched). Use a fairly thick blade to do the cuts as the idea is to create enough space between the four quarters that when they are compressed they are 1" in dia...
- Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:17 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] Studying Period Fighting Manuals
- Replies: 10
- Views: 210
[SCA] Studying Period Fighting Manuals
How much interest is there in your kingdom? I have formed the impression, here in the Outlands, that most of our fighters (rattan and rapier) are entirely uninterested in these documents unless they contain techniques that are directly applicable to combat activity in the lists. By 'most' I mean 80-...
- Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:41 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Historically-accurate harnessfechten
- Replies: 4
- Views: 174
Well.... Since my kingdom shut down the practices we were starting up I have taken my study of Fiore and I.33 outside the SCA. I think I have gained a greater understanding of the basic principles of fighting and a sense of perspective. The more I study the period manuals the more I come to apprecia...
- Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Seawolf's Tirade (Soft Kit)
- Replies: 4
- Views: 283
On the other hand, there are degrees of authenticity. In the SCA there's the costuming laurel in the nylon dome tent, for example. And I would much rather see a cotton/poly cotehardie than a linen t-tunic. Fake leather turnshoes rather than tennis shoes or combat boots. I guess it's all a matter of ...
- Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:56 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Top 10 list of medieval myths questionnaire
- Replies: 98
- Views: 2016
Here's a good myth. Even if you were the son of a peasant farmer, blacksmith, what ever, all you needed to do was kick the bad guys butt and save the day and the King would make a landed knight out of you. Anyone could be a knight, you just had to be quick or lucky. Not quite. You had to be quick, ...
- Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:53 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: help with 1360's Italy...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 184
Re: You could go a bit later....
A little later and you could play with a good Englishman named Sir John Hawkwood, the essence of a Parfait and gentel Knight BWAHAHAHahhahahahahahah Hawkwood...gentel!!! The mad dog killer merc son of a Tanner! hahahahah He did spend time in Italy salughtering whole towns. Actually 1360 is just fin...
