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by jester
Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:25 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: half-swording fighting techniques
Replies: 12
Views: 328

Re: half-swording fighting techniques

Has anyone any links to half-swording combat? I'm not sure what manuals cover this. Also, has anyone tried adapting the handgrip on their shield so that it allows you to use your shield hand in half-sword fighting? Hope that makes sense. oh yeah and what kind of success was achieved with doing this...
by jester
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Shields as weapons (SCA)
Replies: 82
Views: 1405

Trevor's point is well made and very relevant. The fighting manuals that show bucklers equipped with spikes depict them being used in unarmored combat. There is also the question of what type of offensive use the shield is going to be put to. Punch daggers (imagine a dagger strapped to your forearm)...
by jester
Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:00 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Style classes in Denver
Replies: 4
Views: 87

Hmm.... no ability to edit messages on the new board. Oh well.

That URL should be:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HWMA/
by jester
Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:16 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Style classes in Denver
Replies: 4
Views: 87

Welcome, welcome! We're always glad to find someone new to study with. Right now we've got two study groups in the Denver area (it might be better to call them study sessions since there is a lot of membership overlap between the two study groups). Our practice site is in Thornton (up at 120th and P...
by jester
Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:33 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

Guys, something is bothering me about the wording -- is this just "notes" or is that how the Marshallate will word it? Specifically -- half-swording is more of a longsword technique than a single-handed sword (longsword being a "bastard sword"). Second, it's not a parry technique, it's for attackin...
by jester
Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:18 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

Re: Phase Two already?

Wow, I figured grabbing your opponent's blade would not be happenning in the SCA for a long time. Grabbing your own blade is a "level 1" rules change in my manifesto (meaning little or no real safety alteration and very little training needed for implementation) but grabbing your opponent's blade i...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gaston de Vieuxchamps: <B>This is hard to understand. I doubt however wrote it realized that the "target substitution rule" isn't really a rule in the society but a convention ...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:13 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Target Subsitution Rule?
Replies: 10
Views: 210

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gaston de Vieuxchamps: <B>The minutes??? </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The "Target Substitution rule" was mentioned several times in the SEM's portion of the President's Report ...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:01 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Target Subsitution Rule?
Replies: 10
Views: 210

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Asbjorn Johansen: <B>Darn, you beat me again to the ancient art of "rules fu". I wondered about this as soon as I read the minutes. No I don't see it in the Society Regs. Do yo...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

Confusion already. [img]http://forums.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Based on the entry from the President's report, what do you think the SEM is allowing?
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B>I was wondering how Cuin got away with halfswording last weekend: Flonzy </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I can't see the markings on the blade. You've always been able ...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dmitriy: <B>By "stealth" thrusting tip, do you mean what is known as a low-profile one? Out here they are only legal on single handed swords; is that not the situation in other...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Target Subsitution Rule?
Replies: 10
Views: 210

[SCA] Target Subsitution Rule?

I know what it is, but where is it written down? I haven't been able to find a target substitution rule in the Marshals Handbook or Corpora. Little help here?
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Halfswording experiment approved
Replies: 36
Views: 573

[SCA] Halfswording experiment approved

The following quote is taken from the President's Report on the January 24th Board Meeting. Please note that this decision means that KEMs can implement the experiment at their discretion. It does not mean that you can run out and halfsword at the next event. <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">4. ...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:45 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: No more kneeling
Replies: 29
Views: 169

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DukeAlaric: <B> Jester, I was the King who gave the Marshallate the OK to dissolve the existing "lights" fighters in Caid. I was also the King who gave them permission to start...
by jester
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:33 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The ol' fighting from the knees debate!
Replies: 87
Views: 229

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Irish: <B> If you are bound and determined that the SCA must change - then do it for a while, record what happens at your events, THEN approach the SCA with a proposal. Show th...
by jester
Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The ol' fighting from the knees debate!
Replies: 87
Views: 229

Alternate formats for SCA combat that are already completely legal: 1) Armor as worn. Lots of variations on this theme but the best ones are simple. Have inspecting marshal's assign each fighter a number of blows based on the armor they are wearing. The more armor you are wearing, the more blows you...
by jester
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:38 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Combat Video - Lightening Bolt!
Replies: 43
Views: 121

The AEMMA videos can be found at: http://www.aemma.org/multiMedia_top.htm Scroll down the page to the event videos section. While you're there, take a look at some of the footage from the instructor seminars they have held. Every group makes trade-offs. When I started playing in Dagorhir we did full...
by jester
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:29 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: No more kneeling
Replies: 29
Views: 169

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Konrad_von_Dubrau: <B> I haven't heard of this. What is it? Konrad </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The shinai (split bamboo training swords) program resurrected with an historical...
by jester
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:20 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: No more kneeling
Replies: 29
Views: 169

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Madyn: <B>I asked about this in the other thread: how do broad SCA-wide rule changes get implemented exactly? Several people suggested holding alternative tourneys (counted blo...
by jester
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:15 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The ol' fighting from the knees debate!
Replies: 87
Views: 229

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alcyoneus: There are limits to what can be enforced. You can say it will be a counted blows tourney, but you can't say it will be a counted blows tourney, no Japanese, no Vikin...
by jester
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:56 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The ol' fighting from the knees debate!
Replies: 87
Views: 229

I think many of you are missing the point that SCA combat currently allows for all of the forms of combat you have discussed. The problem is not the rules, it is the fact that event organizers fail to be sufficiently clear regarding what their event is re-creating. If the event organizer tells you t...
by jester
Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The ol' fighting from the knees debate!
Replies: 87
Views: 229

Again: "What exactly are you trying to re-create?" A 10th century holmgang is very different from a 15th century tournament. And our rule-set does a fairly good job of allowing for both extremes and everything in between. People who dislike the fighting from the knees convention (and I happen to be ...
by jester
Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:10 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: A "Proper" training program
Replies: 8
Views: 44

I think a proper training program needs to address three areas: 1) Safety - understanding the practical application of the rules of the list. 2) Theory - what does our activity seek to create or re-create and basic swordsmanship-related terms and concepts 3) Practice - instrution in turning swordsma...
by jester
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Documentation for SCA florentine
Replies: 33
Views: 197

A Case Against Fighting with Two Swords in Hand. Consider the conditions that apply within the Middle Ages and then drop a man armed with two swords into that context. Mounted Combat (Armored or Not, Impromptu or Arranged): Unlikely. Which hand will he use to hold the reins? Foot Combat (Armored, Im...
by jester
Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: [SCA] Restructuring the Marshallate?
Replies: 12
Views: 6

[SCA] Restructuring the Marshallate?

A while back the SEM proposed getting the equestrians out from under the marshallate by giving them their own Society level officer. The proposal was returned by the BoD for additional work. I have heard a credible rumor that the SEM will propose breaking the marshallate out into 6 seperate society ...
by jester
Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:15 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Shot Compedium (SCA)
Replies: 3
Views: 9

A good place to start would be to take a look at the compendium compiled by Sylvanus Perrin at the Sabletower website. http://sabletower.homestead.com/files/swordblow.html I also have a hardcopy of the last discussion we had on this subject where Logan, Cuan, and some others provided some fantastic ...
by jester
Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Froissart and one-handed sword and shield
Replies: 4
Views: 14

What Flonzy said. The single-handed sword is not useless against plate. It will not penetrate plate, but it can thrust to gaps in the plate, it can be used as a lever in half-swording techniques, it can deliver a solid buffet (not to be underestimated, look at how much force we can deliver with a ra...
by jester
Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:33 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Looking for combat training manuals (SCA)
Replies: 9
Views: 19

The Legio Draconis website (google them) The SCA Melee Website at http:\\scamelee.freeservers.com The Sabletower webpage (googel Sabletower, fighting, SCA) Those three sites will pretty much cover all the available online material. You can purchase The Armored Rose or Tromp L'Oeil online. Both are b...
by jester
Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Theoretical shield/spear question for SCA
Replies: 10
Views: 124

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: <B>Hi there... just got curious about something... can spears be anviled on shields during war? There is a 14th-century hungarian shield with a cutout for the la...
by jester
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "Drunken" Fighting Style
Replies: 24
Views: 40

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Broadway: <B>Now Dmitry... I was talking about the "drunken fighting style" not getting drunk and fighting... You, a Viscount within the SCA, wouldn't be advocating breaking th...
by jester
Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fixing Pennsic
Replies: 42
Views: 43

Fixing Pennsic

Broken out from the 'et tu madu' thread. We talk about it every year, so why not now? I suggest a simple solution: get rid of the 'war' label. Yes, I know I am speaking heresey, but I think it would be a good idea. If we changed it to the 'Pennsic Fair' we would be much closer to reality and we woul...
by jester
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:30 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I.33 Flowcharts
Replies: 15
Views: 8

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Murdock: <B>Mind if we use these in our WMA study group?? Willing to teach a class? http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Feel free to use the...
by jester
Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Mirrors
Replies: 20
Views: 15

I was playing with my 3 year old son during a break at a practice (non-SCA) when he used one of Ringeck's techniques to disarm and stab me. "Now I have you...."

I loved it. Of course, now I get teased about being disarmed by a 3 year old.
by jester
Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:32 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is SCA combat a sport
Replies: 33
Views: 13

It's a sport. This is not a criticism. It is unscripted, freeform, and competitive. It has rules which regulate the flow of combat and establish criteria for determing the victor. It's not a forum for experimental archaeology. This is a criticism. Experiments to test hypotheses regarding medieval co...