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by jester
Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:22 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Stepping back into the fray, so to speak. The way to deal with "Wrasselin guy" is through the simple expediant of the carrot and the stick. Reward those who continue to improve their kit with baronial/principality/kingdom awards for authentic armour. Make sure that the unbelted fighters s...
by jester
Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:28 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

As I see it, there are two ways to handle authenticity issues. The current laid back approach, which admittedly doesn't work all that well, or the hard assed Period Nazi style. You and, apparently, most everyone else. There are alternatives that don't require changing the rules for everyone if anyo...
by jester
Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:06 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Insurance for Period Specific themed events
Replies: 21
Views: 385

Re: Insurance for Period Specific themed events

I'm not trying to run an event. But hoping people who have done it will post their experiences. I ran two WMA seminars outside the SCA. I looked into liability insurance and decided against it. I had several reasons for this. One, I trusted the instructor to maintain control of the class and to pre...
by jester
Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:25 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Insurance for Period Specific themed events
Replies: 21
Views: 385

Re: Insurance for Period Specific themed events

FrauHirsch1 wrote:Thanks, I was just curious if someone had gone through this for a small group. People suggest getting their own insurance, but I'd wondered if anyone had gone through the excercise.

I have, but it was almost ten years ago.
by jester
Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Insurance for Period Specific themed events
Replies: 21
Views: 385

Re: Insurance for Period Specific themed events

Yes, assume rattan and/or rebated steel combat Gorm, is event insurance in a reasonable price range for a small group of 20 reenactors? $250 - $600 per year. You'll have to shop around to find the best policy because small-event insurance providers are kind of like flies. Note that these assume NO ...
by jester
Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:46 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

Wiki. And not just for armor.

I'll contribute content for 13th-14th Century Iberia (Christian and Muslim).
by jester
Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:39 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Insurance for Period Specific themed events
Replies: 21
Views: 385

Re: Insurance for Period Specific themed events

From the various threads about improving our appearance, there were several posts discussing that if someone wanted to have a period event, that they'd need to do it on their own outside of the SCA context. I know that many households/warbands are also incorporated outside the SCA. Any suggestions ...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:39 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Mafia Members: What's cool about 14th Century?
Replies: 70
Views: 1496

Re: Mafia Members: What's cool about 14th Century?

Not so into wide sleeves. They seem to in the way. Oh, they are! That's why I wear them for La Belle, where I have people to do things for me (being Gentry has its benefits), and not in the SCA. Clothing as conspicuous consumption: I'm so wealthy I don't have to work as I show by wearing clothing t...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

And since you chose to use "the standards of the organization", I will ask you to explain just what you believe those to be. It's my experience that perfectly reasonable people have a broad and varied interpretation of the standards. This diversity is a fundamental underpinning of the ent...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:41 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

There's that good ole SCA elitist attitude...was wondering where it went. This actually makes sense...it truly IS about how much you make and how much you can spend, nevermind that everyone is there for the same reason- to have a good time. Or one would think. So your saying I should run up my CCs ...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

Sorry, failure to comprehend. It's really out of line to dictate that other people may not participate because they don't meet your personal standard of commitment to that specific area of activity. If because of their lack of commitment they don't meet the standards of the organization (currently ...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:51 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

Those "uncaring people" may actually care plenty, but have different priorities than the speaker. Solution, don't get involved in activities you cant (or choose not to) support financially etc. There's plenty of other hobbies that look cool (sky diving etc) that I don't get involved in be...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:44 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

(OK, I just thought of something. A merchant could write and give-away pamphlets of 'How to be an XYZ' and then list all of the products that they sell that help complete the kit... not really in favor of that but I can't fault it happening.) I think this is an excellent idea, especially for kits w...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:31 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Extant 15th C. Hosen
Replies: 22
Views: 475

Re: Extant 15th C. Hosen

Side view, please. Is that a cock sock?
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:16 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: unsolicited advice on fighting.
Replies: 86
Views: 1853

Re: unsolicited advice on fighting.

the Trader=the guy whos telling you how hes hitting your leg constantly after you hit him in the head:D the armchair pro= the guy whos got all the moves in his mind, never in his action. the burner= the guy that gets his ass kicked so much hes got to tell everyone how bad theyre doing and what they...
by jester
Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:43 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"
Replies: 248
Views: 2968

Re: "How could we help improve the look of the SCA"

sigh 1) Read the rules. You can put any sort of restrictions you want on the appearance of any combat participants at any event. No knee-fighting? Allowed. No exposed plastic? Allowed. Only 15th Century? Allowed. The SCA allows considerable leeway in this regard. You can experiment with the more res...
by jester
Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: unsolicited advice on fighting.
Replies: 86
Views: 1853

Re: unsolicited advice on fighting.

Not unique to the SCA. I see this in the gym, on the running trail, and every time I have to visit an employee's desktop to find out what unique new way they've come up with to screw up the environment. :)
by jester
Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:50 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I think Marco is hitting on the only realistic solution to this issue that any of us are going to get. Probably. And the reason that some folks will continue to take their game elsewhere. If you spend a bunch of time and money working on creating a medieval moment and the generi-bunny-fur gang walk...
by jester
Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Perhaps with more parties and tournaments for only those who want better looking gear, then people will “vote” with their attendance and support. Has been going on for at *least* 15 years at Pennsic...google "enchanted ground". And no one has any issues with it. You want to be exclusive w...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:08 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I think I see the issue. The SCA has no long term officials and as a result, enforcing any rule is difficult, unless that is, it exposes the SCA to legal action. As a result, the group will always settle to the average of it’s populace, and that average is dragged down by the lowest common denomina...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:27 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I would prefer to see a do it inside the SCA solution provided we can do it without disenfranchising the vast majority of members who have no interest in this. Wow. Would you care for a six pack of mice to go with the saucer of milk? Because that was exceptionally catty.. The SCA already has mechan...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I asked the Kingdom seneschal who checked at the society level and was told that this is forbidden. I provided links to exclusive events held in the past. I was informed these were mistakes that shouldn't have happened. Oh puh-leeze. Maybe, you know, don't ask the SCA inc. or any officers and don't...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:00 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Best place to buy the I.3 book?
Replies: 9
Views: 209

Re: Best place to buy the I.3 book?

No idea. I got mine from Chivalry Bookshelf years ago.
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:25 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: scaheavycombatrevisions.wikispaces.com
Replies: 13
Views: 561

Re: scaheavycombatrevisions.wikispaces.com

Does C&T fall under the purview of the marshallate, or is it still considered an A&S activity? Why does the manual for heavy combat mention period fencing? Isn't that a separate category? C&T has always been a martial activity. Historical Combat Studies (HCS) is an A&S activity. Wha...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:12 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Oy. How about we stop trying to force people to do things and allow them to do things? Just a thought. On the subject at hand consider the following hypothetical: /Not a real announcement/ The Company of We-Want-To-Have-A-13th-Century-Moment announces our annual 13th Century Only event. The weekend ...
by jester
Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:49 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Maffia Heaven
Replies: 32
Views: 948

Re: Maffia Heaven

Ah. I'll say I see, even though I don't. Why is it the OTC? Or where can I go to read up on it? http://www.legiodraconis.com/modules/zClassifieds/ad_photos/242.jpg There, added the link to the Compaignye Store to the image. And I'll plug mine below http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/co...
by jester
Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:54 pm
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: Maffia Heaven
Replies: 32
Views: 948

Re: Maffia Heaven

Paladin74 wrote:I'm missing the Mafia reference I think.
14th Century Mafia. A term used to refer to those recreationists/living history enthusiasts who recognize that the 14th Century is The One True Century. (T-shirts available)
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

I oppose requiring higher standards across the board. I support allowing them for some events.
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:32 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Jester, why do you keep saying that? Saying which? That the Society doesn't permit events which require participants to wear more than just an attempt at pre-17th Century clothing? That's true. Look, I'm suggesting that the SCA explicitly sets the bar low. And I think this is good. I'm also suggest...
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

That's not how I read Diglach's post so that's not how I responded. You are correct in all your points. Interestingly, the Society is okay with the idea of requiring fighters to improve their appearance or present a specific appearance in order to participate in an event, but not with that idea as a...
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

See, maybe I'm just lucky to be living in the Midrealm, but here we encourage those folks. Give them awards and perrages and everything! We had a "viking" event a few years ago in Southern Ohio, and it was "Norse only" and had a seperate non-period camping area set away from the...
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:28 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Is this REALLY such a huge, glaring problem? I mean, maybe I'm looking through rose colored glasses, or I'm a big soft teddy bear on the subject, but really the REALLY bad examples are a tiny minority at any event. Same for the "skin out" authentic folks. Most of us fall in that really la...
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:21 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Interesting Tent Shelter
Replies: 22
Views: 592

Re: Interesting Tent Shelter

I agree with Thomas. The perspective question is mostly irrelevant as you can check the relative size which clearly shows people standing under some of the structures. The width is also off.
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

501c3 tax implications, primarily... As we are "educational", our events (at least the vast majority of them) need to be Open To The Public. We can get away with "We ask an attempt, and we'll lend you a shirt if you need it", but unless we're prepared to go to "We ask an at...
by jester
Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?
Replies: 363
Views: 5146

Re: Is there a "NO PLASTIC. PERIOD" Movement in the SCA?

Is there really something wrong with the concept of "Hey, the Org sets a minimum standard that is deliberately crazy low, because we wanna get people in the tent...if you want to raise the bar for yourself and those around you, you're welcome to set it as high as you want, and if you get to th...