The Armour Archive

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Look into Mongols and Steppe Warrior culture during that era. Also...is that the correct period for Carolingian? Maybe they used lamellar? Just some ideas for you to follow up on... BTW 200 scales doesn't seem like very many... Cheers, Tim I Agree with you, Tim. You might want to look at The Stuttg...

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If I started over? I would have probably gone in Soviet Historical Studies. Probably the 1930s specializing in collectivization and the purges.

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"I am convinced..." ; "I am right..." ; "you are..." With all due respect, this type of hyperbole doesn't really sound like someone willing to learn and discuss things openly, but rather like someone who made up their mind a long tome ago.... I suspect that you're upset that someone had the audacit...

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Halvgrim wrote:And there lies the real answer to this debate.

Opinions

We all have them and are entitled to let them vary from each others.
None is more correct than another.
None if more wrong that another.
They are just one persons thoughts.

Lets end this one on a up note, huh?

Halv

Done.

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Do you really think it's ethical to refuse people who have a physical disability, a tattoo, or something else in the name of authenticity? Are you really educating anybody--least of all yourselves? As I stated I find it unethical to lye in our portrayal by having things that did not exist such as a...

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Would a person in a wheel chair be allowed to fight heavy? Actually, there WAS a guy in the SCA who used to fight in a wheelchair (I haven't seen him in a while, but that could just be that I don't spend the time out on the battlefield that I used to). There is also a knight in the SCA with only on...

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Mord I am gonna have to call you on that unethical thing. Id like to be a NFL football player but I cant, because I dont meet their standards. Standards is the key to this whole debate IMO, the SCA has and enforces almost none (despite some folks going above and beyond) while other groups do. Thats...

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The difference I see between the SCA and Living History is a matter of consent. In the Society, if you want to be authentic, you can without being forced. The only mandate of the Society is that you have to try and look medieval. ... With Living History, it seems to me that authenticity is mandated...

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What about the Vikes who traveled, lived and fought in Byzantium? lol...hmmm...my instant knee-jerk answer would be, "What do you think mead is for?" Ya wonder if the Byzantines let 'em sweat, or if they were issued cooler clothes when they joined the Varangians. Maybe they just went swimming when ...

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I donno about that I spent the weekend in wool trousers, winnigas and a single linen tunic. During the day it was 100 in the shade and around 85 at night. There is something to be said about not falling to heat exhaustion;) Our forefathers were smart, if it was hot, they would have undoubtedly shed...

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Ah, Mord, if you take out the word "glasses" and insert "sleeping on the ground", this is the same snit you had several months ago, being overly-sensitive and too-easily offended over someone sharing their ideas and points of view, turning it yet again into an SCA vs. LH fight. I see that you are s...

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It's a cheap shot because there's an assumption that simply because I'm a member of the certain group (the SCA, which is very large), that my point of view, purpose, and reasoning is somehow inferior. Charlotte's words were a pithy, insensitive dismissal, and, yes, I am offended. Mord, Your post se...

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A cheap shot, Charlotte, and below what you advertize yourself to be. How so? Because she said in the SCA it doesn't matter? It doesn't, some reenactment groups on the other hand have rules against it, but not all. It's a cheap shot because there's an assumption that simply because I'm a member of ...

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I'd hate to say this, but I don't have to reenact a near-sighted person--I am a near sighted person, and the next time I go to the eye-doctor, it's probably time for bi-focals. There are other eye alments--astigmetism (sp), for instance. And what do you do with the person who wants to shoot archery...

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Sunglasses are the absolute worse. Glasses are bad, but it all depends on what you're doing. If you're at an SCA event, who cares. If you're reenacting, then reenact an impression of a nearsighted person. Period problems need period solutions. Problem - I can't see. Solution - don't shoot archery. ...

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Note: The following is all in good fun. Serendipity, you unlettered peasant! R P Davis, BSA, BSA, BoL, MAoL P.S. The letters mean: BSA=Boy Scout of America BSA=Bull Sh!t Artist BoL=Breeder of Llamas MA=Master Assaulter of Librarians (watch out, Mord!) Any time, Brewer. Mord. I haven't seen you in a...

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Ah......I don't know, Dave. The whole Rus question is mixed up in the "Normanist Controversy" monster. The controversy is between the Normanist ("ethnic" Germans-- mostly Swedes) and Anti-Normanists ("ethnic" Slavs--mostly Russians); the monster comes down to the role of Scandinavians within Eastern...

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brewer wrote:Note: The following is all in good fun.

Serendipity, you unlettered peasant!

R P Davis, BSA, BSA, BoL, MAoL

P.S. The letters mean:

BSA=Boy Scout of America
BSA=Bull Sh!t Artist
BoL=Breeder of Llamas
MA=Master Assaulter of Librarians (watch out, Mord!)

Any time, Brewer.

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Missed you last night...please PM me.

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I'd go for Carolingian--there's a notable lack of such personas.

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Weridist shot? It was blue and cold and knocked me out of my chair in the bar. My 20th birthday.

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A couple of books:

"The Vikings in Britain" by HR Loyn

"The Vikings in Wales" by HR. Loyn

"The Vikings in Wales: an Archaeological Quest" by M. Redknap (2004)

"The Vikings in Britanny" by NS Price. (1989)

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Zaid, I am sorry--I did not know the circumstances of what you saw. This happens to me an occasion. I'll be doing something and see something that really interests me. I won't have any time or anything to write what I saw up. Most of the time, I'll be in the stacks of the library and see something, ...

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It would be a primary source that was not contemporary to the fabric or castle's manufacture. Mord's following article reflecting upon and interpreting/analyzing/making use of said writing, would be a secondary source. LOTS of our primary sources are not actually contemporary to the events they des...

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Okay, Mord, so how about my example from earlier? ...part of an extant castle's original fabric, dating to at least the 15th C. that I had seen myself in Spain. Where was it found? In situ. If the object had been removed, the castle wall would have fallen down. Who found it? I did (for the purposes...

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Alcyoneus wrote:Why study primary sources?

So I can make my own mistakes, and not rely on the mistakes of others.

Yup.

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Your Grace,

Please bring hoods--green or white--and I will finally get around to buying one!

Thanks much,

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Ok, fine... read these, if you can get them: Kazakevicus, V. and V. Zulkus. "Archaeologia 2. The Balts and their Neighbours in the Viking Age." Vilnius, Lithuania: Institute of Lithuanian History, (1997). ISBN: 9986340160. Duczko, W. "Viking Rus. Studies on the Presence of Scandinavians in Eastern E...

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I understand a parent's need to his/her child well protected. My mom when I told I was going fighting would always say "gently" as walked out the door.

There are books on the armour of Helenistic Greece (Macedonia). Snodgrass is one to the authors.

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Just one point...armor can be pretty, but if the stuff does't fit you're just wasting your money and your time. Also, it has to be practical--I can repair and rework the plastic lamellar I use for body armor. I made the cheesey blue plastic body I hid under a tunic when I fought, but I could not mak...

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Then please bear with me while I either correct something, or else warn those w/o the right background. Kass is using an idiosyncratic definition of sources that is incorrect from the pov of the academic world, especially archaeology. A surviving medieval dress is not a primary source for a dress. ...

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Can everything in this thread be used for a Rus as well ?? No. For instance, the "Vikings in Britain" is not about the Rus. However, I'm currently reading a new book call "Rus Vikings" published by Brill. Your best bet, is to read the section on the Rus in G. Jones "A History of the Vikings." You m...

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Which is why paintings are only primary sources for paintings, not for the objects displayed in them. But you're right about primary sources lying to us. You can't take a statistical average of extant garments, for example, and derive any real data from it about what percentage of medieval garments...

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Egfroth wrote:Or better still, make them . . . honestly, it's not hard !

Making them isn't the probelm---getting them to fit on the other hand, especially for fighting...

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I'm saving my change for footware (that fits) appropriate to my personia, or at least something close.

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Yo Cet!