The Armour Archive

Mord

Looks like an abused early to mid 1990s helm. Maybe a little earlier.

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:shock: Good lord Mord.....doh...that was bad...anyways...the Library of Congress probably contacts you for Inter Library Loan services don't they. And Amazon probably contracts out to you when they're backordered Here I am sitting here looking over at my bookcase, with my modest 30 some odd books ...

Mord

Halv,

I checked WorldCat (OCLC) for you citation: "Arkeologisk undersokning av fornlamning" and "Haukr--en rinker fran vallentuna" and I'm sorry to say I found nothing. Am I reading the cite correctly?

I'll keep poking around for it.

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Mord I am sorry I seem to have mispoken I do not have the "Haukr Ã¢â‚¬â€œ en rinker frÃƒÂ¥n Vallentuna" article I have spent some time on WorldCat and cant get any hits either. Can you use your magical powers of good to see what you can come up with? Halv I'll see what I can do, Halv, and get back ...

Mord

The best source that I know (and this is not my area, really) is the Bayeux Tapestry. Stenton edited a book on the tapesty: JG Mann wrote the section on arms and armour.

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Halvgrim wrote:
Sir Mord wrote:Thanks for the correction, Halv. Could you provide some documentation about the Vallentuna staves found?

NB supplied me with alot of info.
But the best 'hard' data can be found in

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Mord

Halvgrim wrote:Curved saexes Mord?

Halv

As I remember it, Halv, long seaxes had a curve on the dull edge--Alfred Geibig in his huge typology shows this. I'm assuming quite a lot here--they are the only edged (other than axes) weapons from Northern Europe that I can think of.

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Take care of your dad, Tom. Everything thing else--especially armoring--can wait.

Take care,

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Mord

First things first, the splint (or stave) armour is from the Valsgarde 8 grave, not 6. Second, there is evidence to suggest that there was also stave armour in the cremation grave of a 40-50 yr old man from the Rickeby cemetery in the Vallentuna parish of Uppland. Several other stave end remains ex...

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More work has been done on Anglo-Saxon Shields than Scandinavian. The Anglo-Saxon that have been examined are from pre-Christian (which is to say pagan) burials. The "Viking Age" was after the A-S pagan period. For the Viking Period, let me start with some sources: Oluf Rygh: "Norske Oldsager." 1885...

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As fate would have it, I have a few sources at home that include saxes or seaxes--I'll post them tonight if I remember.

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Actually, Dave, the folks you want to talk to are at the Staaten Historisk Museen (the State Historical Museum) in Stockholm, Sweden. They have a website; you can find a link on the Ravensgard homepage. Check-out the bibliography and other listings, too. Also, If you ever come down South, give me a ...

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Sorry, Dave, Like I said, the staves were found in a box beside the body in the grave. The burial, if I remember correctly, was a boat burial; the kind of tomb that was monumental and highly prestigious. No one knows for certian what the staves were use for. All uses are a matter for speculation. Se...

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Let me start with documentation: Arwidsson, G. "Valsgarde 6" is the book you wish to look at. Also, Arwidsson published an article in the journal "Acta Archaeologica" in 1936 (I think--I have it at home), entitled "a new helmet from the Vendel Period" or something like that. In this article the auth...

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Mord, you're conflating two very different issues. As a student, I agree to publish in order to get a degree. As a professor, I agree to publish because it's part of my job description. Even then, that duty to publish is contractually stated, and limited per the terms of said contract. No professor...

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I'm just reading in my archeology textbooks about publication. The saying goes, not publishing (sharing) what you find is the same as stealing. Ri-ight. Sounds like the best ethics communists can buy. Seven years of schooling, and tons of hours of work, and your're somehow *obligate* to give your w...

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Having had my armor stolen years ago, I am very sympathetic! What do you need to continue fighting? Will you be at EK coronation?

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As far as copyright goes, read Title 17 of the United States Federal Code. As a librarian who occasionally makes copies for patrons, I review about once a year. The Federal Code is probably on the web, with all the other Government Publications. If not, try your local library. As far as "trade secre...

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Why should someone who spent thier time, energy and money to gain knowledge share it for nothing? It is one thing to help others on occasion but knowledge has a cost. I know that if I have a question about something in the 15th century that people I know who do 15th century will help me find the an...

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Duty? When I became a librarian I did not take a binding oath or anything like that. The real quesiton is, "should we share our knowledge?" The answer is too simply, yes. We should share what we have learned as long as those with whom we share it with aknowledge the work. Say I work on the decoratio...

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Ah, Wulfe, here is the key. Small steps, not because studying anything takes time and patience, but because new folk (new members) can very delicate. One can get lost in the details of Medieval History, and that is what I'm afraid would happen here. Ever try explaining your persona in the context of...

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I generally believe the whole "wide viking wrestling belt" idea came from a mis-interpretation of history re-inforced by the early need to armor your kidneys and floating ribs in SCA combat. The Merovingian Franks were well know for their very big inlaid belt buckles--this could be the source of the...

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Neat!

Congratulations, Halvgrimr!

btw, I wonder waht the Old Norse word for "bailer" is? Bail, according to my pb dictionary is a Middle English word.

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I remember a long while ago when I was reading "Three Byzantine Military Treaties" published by Dumbarton Oaks, that the emperor should issue a "shirt" made of either raw silk or (obviously Egyptian) cotton.

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A short comment about the Carolingians--you might want to look at the "Stuttgart Psalter," which has illustrations of Frankish/Carolingian armor. If memory serves the date of this psalter is about 825.

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Sir Mord, you come on a bit strong. Have I said something to rate this ire? This line of inquiry was in direct response to Josh Warren's statement that too many people--especially knights, SCA--wear harness that is not proper, and it was an invitation to him to explain the harness he wears, and to ...

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To be perfectly honest, I think this a competely stupid idea that shows a notable lack of understanding of the use of armor within the context of history. You only seem to understand armor; you do not seem to understand armor within history. Understand any object withing the historical context is wh...

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Thats what your gonna get with "no lower limit" I'd suppose we're talking from 500-900 ad The Norwegians, then the Danes showed up in Ireland in the 9th Century AD. Look at G. Jones "A History of the Vikings" for more information. How about from the time St. Patrick lived to about 800 AD? Mord.

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Put her on the Missouri river and raid Harrah's Casino in Kansas City! --actually one of the things myself and Dongal have talked about is taking her to KC and sailing her down the Missouri River to Jefferson City (her new home port) once we get her 'sea worthy' I'd do it but I want to make damn su...

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Ah, yes, Grasshoppers, I am a master of the "stumble, stumble, throw, throw, die laughing you clod" style of fighting. Fools everybody.

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I know the feeling Your Grace. I fear all the work that has piled up after any event I took time off to go to. I have the blues after any event--"life" gets in the way of, well, your life (if you know what I mean!). I still haven't found a cure for the post event, post war blues after all these year...

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I fought for years without any kind of corrective lenses--I'm nearsighted. A couple of years ago, a friend suggested disposable contacts. I find them very useful, as long as you don't gross yourself out when you put them in and take them out.

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Animal Weretiger wrote:Russ, the stuff is beautiful. I have two suits of lamellar myself or else I'd lust after it too.

I have only one suit of lammellar. I look upon this with serious armor lust, but I have other equipment to buy and still other needs for my money.

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I certianly have a "period" source for Danish bows, D. The items were found at Hedeby (Haithabu) and were made of yew wood. Arrowheads are found all over Northern Europe in the Early Middle Ages. However, I can't say much for Finnish archery PM me your address, and I'll send you some stuff. Mord.

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Since I'm stuck here on the desk until noon (very short staffed), I'll put up some more: "Viking Weapons." by Lindsey in "Scottish Art Review" vol. 10, #2 "The Vikings in Britain." by Loyn, 1977. "Das Bootkammergrab von Haithabu." by Muller-White, 1976 "Krieger und Reiter im Spiegel fruh- und hochmi...

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