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- Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:54 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Todays Veg Tanned Leather for Garments
- Replies: 11
- Views: 305
Re: Todays Veg Tanned Leather for Garments
Yes, another term for this is "drum dyed" due to the continuous agitation literally beating the dye load uniformly into the entire hide. Any leather that is dyed with a spray process will tend to have an undyed core; beige for vegetable tanned, pearl grey for chrome tanned.
- Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:42 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hardening leather: the finer points (not remaking the wheel)
- Replies: 125
- Views: 2439
Re: Hardening leather: the finer points (not remaking the wh
Kel, you might be the person to ask about this. I believe I have run across references to couiir bouilli (by some spelling) relating to the bookbinding industry and seeming, from context, to relate more to an unfinished leather...or something.. I am sure it is not talking about hardened stuff the w...
- Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:53 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Todays Veg Tanned Leather for Garments
- Replies: 11
- Views: 305
Re: Todays Veg Tanned Leather for Garments
I am not sure why you think period sued was just full grain leather worn inside out. I can't imagine why they would not have been perfectly capable of producing suede splits. Deer is also an option to consider, it makes for really comfy - if not too terribly durable - clothing. Um, because the blad...
- Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:23 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: COP/Brigantine Fragment From Tirol Castle
- Replies: 28
- Views: 496
Re: COP/Brigantine Fragment From Tirol Castle
Is that one in Milan? I thought it was in the Polish Army Museum.mackenzie wrote:
But I want it to be 14C and this one too:
- Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:59 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hardening leather: the finer points (not remaking the wheel)
- Replies: 125
- Views: 2439
Re: Hardening leather: the finer points (not remaking the wh
Looks like we need to start a cuir buoilli guild...once we learn how to spell it. Whenever I get to that word I just wing it. I spell like Lewis and Clarke, who had something like a dozen different spellings of the word Sioux. That's okay... there wasn't a particular spelling of "bouilli" more popu...
- Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:03 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Full Metal Jousting
- Replies: 504
- Views: 10770
Re: Full Metal Jousting
Kel, I can name a few MT guys that are pretty good at full contact - Shane Adams, Patrick Lambke, myself.... Honestly, I got hurt more working at MT in 3 years than I did on the fairce circuit in over 15. Lloyd, 1 - Did you or Patrick do full contact at MT? Or did you start that after leaving MT, l...
- Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:43 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Full Metal Jousting
- Replies: 504
- Views: 10770
Re: Full Metal Jousting
I think the rodeo guys have a major advantage in riding skill, variety of experience and sheer tenacity. Professional cowboys are tough critters. From my perspective the hunter/jumper/crosscountry/eventer guys have the riding skill advantage. Centered balanced riding radically reduces the transitio...
- Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:03 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Full Metal Jousting
- Replies: 504
- Views: 10770
Re: Full Metal Jousting
Seems like there are a lot of Medieval Times guys. I would think that the MT experience would give them an advantage. Only because they ride almost every day. However the quality of instruction and variety of choreographed "fights" they are required to learn limits them to very specific experience....
- Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:52 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Historical Foot Combat 14th Century Shields?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 503
Re: Historical Foot Combat 14th Century Shields?
Aaron, A couple examples of that size survive from the thirteenth century. Iconic evidence seems to support their use until plate leg harness developed in the early fourteenth century when the cavalry shield becomes smaller. Fourteenth century infantry seem to use either quite large shields or very ...
- Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:35 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Riveted mail vs Welded mail ... pros and cons
- Replies: 39
- Views: 756
Re: Riveted mail vs Welded mail ... pros and cons
Question: What kind of maille would you use if you should protect the armpit of a fighter that is using rebated spears, arming sword and poleaxes? The idea is that armpit are not a deliberate target, but I really fear thrusts that slip over the breastplate and are not catched by edge rolls of armpi...
- Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:42 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Full Metal Jousting
- Replies: 504
- Views: 10770
Re: Full Metal Jousting
My coffee went cold when I was talking to him. Cool dude.Andrew McKinnon wrote:
How cool IS Rod?
- Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:28 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 6-9thC Scottish leather worker's tool box
- Replies: 18
- Views: 348
Re: 6-9thC Scottish leather worker's tool box
I really like the box. 
- Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:26 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: De Re Militari
- Replies: 14
- Views: 308
Re: De Re Militari
I haven't received either of the publications I paid for two years ago. I haven't seen any new content on the website for at least a year. Other than the seminars organized in their name at the K'zoo conference, I do not believe there is anyone still doing anything for the DRM organization. Too bad,...
- Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:50 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: creating adjustable forms (lasts)
- Replies: 18
- Views: 277
Re: creating adjustable forms (lasts)
I was thinking of something similar to a cobbler's shoe lasts. I've seen adjustable ones and was figuring the idea could be translated to arms and legs. Odd After twenty plus years supplying the shoe industry, and seeing literally metric tonnes of lasts sold at auction, I would be fascinated to see...
- Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:06 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 653
Re: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
I'll be in NYC & NJ in June. Maybe TX and NOLA in March.
I can only slip past your Homeland Security so many times a year.
I can only slip past your Homeland Security so many times a year.
- Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:56 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
- Replies: 12
- Views: 386
Re: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
Bob & Wade - Point taken. Numerous data points beat speculation every time. Thanks.
- Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:21 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
- Replies: 12
- Views: 386
Re: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
True, I shouldn't have said "cops" - plural. I've seen a hi-res photo taken of the little panel and the left cop appears to go around more than a simple disk would. I don't have that image though, I didn't take it. If I ever get to Bruges I will take one I can. Until then, we're picking nits. The OP...
- Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:23 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 653
Re: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
Ken Mondschein wrote:I suppose I do. Do I?
Nah, you're a wire weenie Ken.
You can have a piece of me if you come up to T.O. for our tournament April 14. I'd like to see that new kit of your's at the end of my spear. I guarantee you crash space and as much beer as you can manage.
Kel
- Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:14 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
- Replies: 12
- Views: 386
Re: 15th Century Jack Chains w/ simple elbow
The archer in the Martyrdom of St. Ursula so frequently copied is wearing fully enclosed elbow cops in his spleynts. Its hard to tell until you get a close view of the painting or a hi-res copy. This has been discussed at length on the AA within the past couple years. No reason you can't have simple...
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:22 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Leather guantlet
- Replies: 27
- Views: 1272
Re: Leather guantlet
Any functional clamshell gauntlet pattern can be made in medium weight 9-10oz leather. How much you harden the pieces will determine how much padding you might need underneath. Kilkenny's Titebond method is practical for most people.
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:54 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33
- Replies: 13
- Views: 448
Re: I.33
Ken,
Don't you mean "betterer?"

Don't you mean "betterer?"
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:52 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Advice requested: current sca techniques and flat hits
- Replies: 37
- Views: 617
Re: Advice requested: current sca techniques and flat hits
Well, I don't play SCA anymore but the moment you comment on appears (and I mean that with the vaguest accuracy) to be an onside rebound set to draw the shield up into the non belt's vision, followed with a crossing shot that lines up the true edge to the now exposed head. Most of the other shots se...
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:19 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
- Replies: 33
- Views: 699
Re: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
Russ, I was writing you a PM while you responded. Have a look.
Don't worry, be happy mon.
Don't worry, be happy mon.
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:08 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I.33
- Replies: 13
- Views: 448
Re: I.33
Cheaper than going to Leeds, even if you can get an appointment to view the MS.
I think I'll wait for the commercial edition though. I neeeeeeeeedddddd to buy Carlo Paggiarino's latest book as well as Toby Capwell's soon to be released update of his PhD thesis. So many books, so little beer money.
I think I'll wait for the commercial edition though. I neeeeeeeeedddddd to buy Carlo Paggiarino's latest book as well as Toby Capwell's soon to be released update of his PhD thesis. So many books, so little beer money.
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:04 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 653
Re: Survey of sorts----who here does rebated steel combat?
I do. Mostly a' plaisance but frequently to submission. We often describe it as a l'outrance but we don't use sharps so that's not strictly accurate.
The opening page has a video of this type of fighting. www.aemma.org
The opening page has a video of this type of fighting. www.aemma.org
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:50 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Leather tunics and/or arming caps. No such thing?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1025
Re: Leather tunics and/or arming caps. No such thing?
Thank you, Mephit! The hat was a lot of fun. The wand was more of a technical than an artistic success. The scales in the grip are individually raised up by means of a crafty artifice I read about many years ago in Fine Woodworking. The wood is punched down with a shaped tool and the surface is the...
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:45 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Bees wax?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 490
Re: Bees wax?
i am currently looking for about 3 gallons of honey, so if you have a line on raw stuff let me know, and i appreciate it http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vinduska-Apiaries/210675778950462 Calontir's first Duke, and founding Baron of Vatavia has LOTS of honey! That is the coolest thing I've seen in age...
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:37 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
- Replies: 33
- Views: 699
Re: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
Andeerz - excellent job digging. Well done! As my earlier comments were for the general reader and were dissed anyway... Russ, you clearly know everything you need to know at this point and can do just fine without my input. I will add one thing, again for the general reader. The previous comment to...
- Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:05 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Armor Terminology question.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 279
Re: Armor Terminology question.
If that reference book you mention is by George Cameron Stone - take anything in it with a huge dose of salt. The most useful thing about it is the large number of images of the armour of various world cultures. His descriptions and especially the names of many items have been corrected elsewhere in...
- Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:54 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
- Replies: 33
- Views: 699
Re: Experiment this Weekend: Carta Boili
Ah, Russ. Your timing is impeccable. I'm working on the quarter and year end reports for my business right now and you have to dig into something interesting... :roll: I haven't read this stuff lately but IRRC it is the collagen in the presence of sufficient tannin and moisture that polymerizes at 1...
- Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Ringmesh? Would it stop a sword
- Replies: 8
- Views: 387
Re: Ringmesh? Would it stop a sword
MacKenzie, I don't know what your hidden armour would be used for but I strongly recommend you don't count on this stuff to save your life against anything stiffer than the springy "rapier" blades approved for SCA combat. I can poke you harder with my index finger than those things can. For armoured...
- Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:12 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Ringmesh? Would it stop a sword
- Replies: 8
- Views: 387
Re: Ringmesh? Would it stop a sword
Rebated steel swords thrust through it like it wasn't there. It is designed to deflect butcher knives in the meat processing industry. I don't understand how it will keep a shark from ripping off your arm but it is also sold to the diving market. As a fashion statement in SCA context, why not? Its s...
- Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: If noone gets hurt, we arent doing it right
- Replies: 85
- Views: 2041
Re: If noone gets hurt, we arent doing it right
Its not that they don't hurt, you just stop caring once a hundred have come and gone.
- Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:54 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Is it true thaty everyone drank beer?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 1085
Re: Is it true thaty everyone drank beer?
For that, unless you can read German or Dutch, which I can't - either book on brewing by Richard Unger. I've been trying to collect information on Hanseatic city brewing, especially Hamburg and Lubeck but its sparse in English.
- Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:45 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Is it true thaty everyone drank beer?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 1085
Re: Is it true thaty everyone drank beer?
Yes, a pleasant read with a surfeit of quotes from historical and literary sources on everything from the brewing practices of ancient Sumeria and Egypt to specific problems faced by ale conners in small English villages. Any student of British brewing should have it. Not a single useful thing about...
