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Kristoffer

Found another with extended thumb base but where the lames are extended as well. I guess this is from the transition of the hinged thumb to the fully covered base.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thoog/424 ... 330606163/

Kristoffer

Found one in my pinterest gallery. If you browse the other images of the armour you see the other gauntlet being of different construction.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thoog/424 ... 330606163/

Kristoffer

I will look around and see if I can find where I found it. This is its mate, and it is really weird.. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3200/2523139704_a838c31448_o.jpg I will make them in 4130 spring and I haven't got a single hit there yet. Wich is the reason that I chose to do the hinge instead for ...

Kristoffer

Very pointy points and a nice job indeed James!

The Madrid gauntlet actually triggers my trypophobia a bit. The pointy points could probably trigger someones acrophobia or aichmophobia..

Kristoffer

Buggerit, I'm going with a hinged thumb on these. I'll just build the later ones with the full base at a later time.

Kristoffer

Thank you for your input Wade, I am using your pictures constantly for reference. This is the gauntlet I took the thumb base from: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3249/2523139834_2760359ae3_o.jpg It is the only one I have found with that setup. I have a "normal" metacarpal plate with a hinged thumb p...

Kristoffer

Another angle

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And a quick drawing I did to get an idea of how it should sit on my hand. This thread is a great reminder for me how well spent the time I put into learning basic drawing was and how drawing is just like riding a bike.

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Kristoffer

After my last attempt in metal I spent some hours today reworking the cuff, metacarpal plate and finger plates. My last attempt was too large and bulky in the traditional SCA manner so I took a lot off the metacarpal and finger lames, refined the shapes a bit and threw away the thumb. I realized tha...

Kristoffer

That is (or used to be) a cloth covered globose. The way the pictures are taken (close and at an angle) is skewing the proportions so it is hard to say what they really are. If better photos are available it would be easier to judge it. If it fails the "can it be worn" or "will it work" then we woul...

Kristoffer

Good question! I have not put energy into defining the different versions available. That would however be interesting.

Most thumbs from this period seem to consist of three or more plates overlapping in the same direction, more or less decorated, articulated on leather.

Kristoffer

I have an additional question regarding rivet sizes since I am about to start making my own rivets. I use 3mm rivets but the head size on the commercially available rivets here are very small compared to what I see on pictures of extant armour. 1/8" shank for most articulation rivets but what is the...

Kristoffer

The right thumb originally posted here is one of maximilian form with a knuckle plate. I do not think I have seen that before and I believe it to be rare. Very common for late 15th century but rare in the early 16th century. Most gauntlets are missing the thumbs and the existing ones are often tampe...

Kristoffer

Mac,

Regarding thumbs, are there any pros and cons of using a knuckle cop versus the wisby thumbs setup?

Most thumbs on extant pieces seem to be scales, it would be interesting to gather all pictures of extant "hard" articulated thumbs..

Kristoffer

Gambatte Maku-sama!

Kristoffer

Rough translation: Anga church, Anga perish, Gotland. Finger protection. Three joint plates for a finger on a gauntlet. Length 7,5 centimeters. Width (lower part) 2,5 centimeters. Most likely from the 15th century. Found in the *cross* northeast section, about 40 centimeters below the floor surface....

Kristoffer

Well, I am not planning to make something that elaborate, I just think it is a pretty awesome exemple of tool building. My idea is to make a simple stake that is perhaps one inch wide with rounded sides that I can shape the ridge with and then make simple roping hot with a chisel. Perhaps make a rop...

Kristoffer

Very nice! Looking forward to see how it will take shape.

Kristoffer

Here it is with the knuckle ridge and first mitten lame in place, taped to my hand with SCA required padding. gaunt.jpg I noticed that forming the knuckle ridge requires me to make some custom tooling. I will also make a custom tool for the thumb tip. I found this little gem online and I envy the ma...

Kristoffer

I have not posted in this thread for some time now but I have made progress with these gauntlets. I put together the wrist and lames up to the metacarpal plate a long time ago but just this weekend got time to work on the knuckles and my sca adapted thumb. This i my first attempt at it in steel that...

Kristoffer

Amazing work as always. Will the knees be gilded? I really hope your patron will go with gilding like the statue, that would be fantastic to see and so rarely done on modern armour..

Kristoffer

The support would be used for larger pieces like breastplates, backplates, cuisses and such. Smaller pieces could be free handed. Perhaps the support could be a chisel or similar that runs in the back of the flute, guiding the piece. Occasionally you would slip, creating errors like on the original ...

Kristoffer

Here is how I imagine operating my contrapton.

http://pinterest.com/pin/A5W9pwAQQGsFKAhgDDAAAAA/?s=3

Sorry, can't insert the image directly from my phone..

Kristoffer

Yes, a stationary machine where you can rest the armour piece on a support and pull or push it to make the cuts. I believe cutting tempered rings would be a lot worse for the discs then cutting lines in armour. Cutting trough something always eats angle grinder discs while cutting along the surface ...

Kristoffer

http://pinterest.com/pin/AyW7pwAQQGsFRJP-pTEAAAA/?s=3 This is my idea for a simple tool. I would try a wheel somewhere between 1.5 - 2 inches in diameter. With a foot operated support I believe you could become pretty skilled pretty fast. Sitting down and operating it like a sewing machine. It woul...

Kristoffer

A horizontally mounted disc driven by a small chain or belt should be pretty easy to make. Sort of a horizontal pizza slizer with a belt connected to a motor.

I feel that it would be easier to explain what I mean with a drawing..

Kristoffer

Mac

I would try a smaller wheel to cut lines. Almost the size of the dremel discs. That should make the errors less smudgy.

Kristoffer

I have this:

And it is great. I neither have a beard nor glasses but I believe both would fit. If you consider buying it I could do some tests for you.

Its pretty expensive but I am sure ebay could produce something for you.

Kristoffer

I would like to buy it if Stellari passes.

Kristoffer

I have picked up the kilns and they are pretty big. About 180cm high and weigh probably around 250-300 kilos each. At a quick glance they look hardly used and the bricks and heating coils look like new. I will try to get the time to assemble everything and do a test run as soon as possible.

Kristoffer

Yes, it is standard. All incoming power is 400v three phase, usually 20 amps for a regular house. Standard household plugs are 1 phase 230v.

Kristoffer

Regular outlets are 1-phase, 230V but kitchen stoves and bigger machines are 3-phase, 380-400V. My incoming fuses at home are currently 20 Amps (but I might uppgrade to 25), 3-phase 400 Volts. This is pretty standard here.

Kristoffer

They run on 380v 3-phase 16A. I will install a plug on them so I can just hook them up to one of the 16A sockets in the garage that I use for my belt sanders, drill press and other machines. My 50 square meter garage is becoming too small. Time to start planning the build of a 300 square meter works...

Kristoffer

I just bought the following two preciousssess! 4542857107.jpg Furnace for tempering, Osmund LKUC-3/4, 10 kw, Max temp 650 C. Furnace for hardening, Osmund MUT-3/4, 6,5 kw, Max temp 1000 C. They cost me $690 for both. I will drive 1100 miles next week to get them. These are rare beasts in this countr...

Kristoffer

Henrik, is your source for 4130 arigo teknik or have you found someone else?

I am currently setting up equipment for hardening 4130 and it will be my metal or choice for everything in the future.

Kristoffer

James is right. A fixture would get the alignment right and give you a spare hand to hold the piece with.

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